Thaiberius

Thaiberius

Yes i know where the airport is and myself and my future wife are leaving this stinking cheating country next year to start in a country that appreciates Farangs (mayalsia) It is the principle of being cheated and ripped of nearly every day by these cunning piees of flotsum.

I think you'll find the same in Malaysia and don't forget they are following the radical Muslim route. Give it a couple of years and you won't be able to get a beer.

So how do you class the pensioners that are younger than you ?

 
Pensioners are so-called because they receive pensions. I don't know of any pension scheme - state or private - that dishes out lump sums for annuity purchase or makes regular payments to people younger than 45.
 
Do you?
 

Why does it annoy some people seeing a man of advanced years with a younger girl. It doesn't bother me in the slightest and I don't get the mindset where it would be annoying.

That doesn't ANNOY me at all.

The fact they whinge and bitch about people making judgments, laughing, teasing or otherwise reacting negatively towards them CAN be a little annoying.

I've read complaints from posters on this forum whom, for whatever reasons - race, creed, skin colour - have been singled out by both locals and farangs for ridicule and marginalization because they were considered abnormal or they were/are stereotyped by society.
 
Some of that ridicule and marginalization has actually been leveled by some of the hypocritical lowlifes crying foul about attitudes to them and their 30yr younger wives/GFs.

Imagine the outcry if someone piped up with the usual "If you don't like it, you know where the airport is" but these tossers wheel that one out every time someone else has a complaint or grievance.

Well, that is my attitude, if you don't like it go somewhere else. No wonder the Thai government/militia make it so hard for farangs to do business and live there. They are fully aware farangs are trouble with a sense of entitlement who treat the locals like rubbish. How about the bloke on here who is desperately trying to get a 7/11 girl sacked for not giving him a discount stamp. That's why the Thai's don't want us getting a foothold and I agree with them.

No.  I have lived in Pattaya and 4 other towns in Thailand but I did not meet my wife in Pattaya.  I would guess that most Farang met wives in Bangkok.  5 million women is a lot of women. 
 
Where did you meet all the bad smelly alcoholic men?  Surly not in Thailand.  Everyone I know showers at least twice a day here.  It is not like Europe no one here smells bad.   I walked up and down Beach road after dinner last weekend and must have passed a thousand fellows and none smelled bad.  Where are you writing from?

 
 
Just go to he mall to experience a real BO Pattaya Farang. Dipping oneself on the beach after a few beers does not constitute a shower.

I was at Central Mall Pattaya for 6 hours.  Never ran into  a foul smelling person.  What mall are you talking about?

I saw a farang wearing beige shorts in a shopping mall who had clearly followed through at some point during the day. Either he didn't know or didn't care. On that particular day everybody I met was fragrant. In fact very rarely do I encounter a less than fragrant person.

An elderly man paying for sex with a younger woman, surely that must be a new human behaviour. Can't imagine they did that 500 years ago.

no my thai girlfriend licks the stamps,it is the principle of it all,they are two faced lying hypocritical staff who think that we farangs are stupid,they give them to my thai gf no problem this is a racially predujice country and always will be

Never mind, if you don't like it then move. We all know about dual-pricing, false smiles and all that rubbish. Like water off a ducks back to me. I really couldn't be bothered by a few stamps or a snotty 7/11 girl. It's not your country, you're a guest and you know where the airport is.

same here,my normal 7/11 store for the last 3 weeks have been saying to me no stamps,new stamps not come yet.But this morning when i went in and asked and was told no stamps yet i waited just near the exit and watched as a thai woman paid for her things and was given stamps,when i went back and asked about my stamps she said and i quote "you farang you not need stamps you money " I won't be going there again its tesco lotus from now on and they lose over 3500 baht per month now

They don't care about your 3,500 baht.

What on earth would you use the stamps for? 1 baht off a sugar sandwich or 2 baht off a burger you wouldn't let your dog eat. Are you seriously telling me you sit at home after going to 7/11 licking stamps to put in a book and then after a couple of months you can get 2 baht off your burger.

Why does it annoy some people seeing a man of advanced years with a younger girl. It doesn't bother me in the slightest and I don't get the mindset where it would be annoying.

Get caught carrying a pepper spray or CS gas in the UK and the chances are you'll do time. Get caught using it then you'll certainly go down. Zero tolerance in the UK for that sort of thing and guns.

I know that, but as I said, my life and well being is more important than any laws. I was talking to a guy in his sixties who walks with a walking stick, he told me he was attacked by two of them, and retaliated by hitting them with his walking stick. He was charged and fined 200 GBP.

Now there's an idea.

Wasn't trying to argue with you but if you are caught with one then the likelihood is you'll go down. Your argument about self defence will go nowhere. Self defence is ok with your fist, boots etc but a knuckleduster, knife or spray is not acceptable. I'm guessing you could be American?

For those who are looking for that sort of thing then lower Sukhumvit has plenty of stalls but if customs find them on you when you get home be prepared for a heavy fine or even nick.

This is a small gap compared to many here, but I'm 27, my girlfriend is 21, and I'm barely surviving this relationship.  There's just no sense of real connection, everything is so superficial and hyperbolic.  It can't last much longer.
 
I couldn't imagine dating someone below 40 if I was 60.

Aren't the vast majority of farang/Thai relationships superficial? That's why I prefer them, no BS. Any earache and you're on your way. Can't imagine ever discussing the rise of UKIP or the crisis in eastern Ukraine with a Thai girl. Suits me fine.

I like the shelf dedicated to overnight miniatures - Listerine, toothbrush, mini toothpaste, Johnsons baby oil, mini deodorant etc. A nice touch for the few who visit Thailand for sex.

Two words not mentioned, inflation and exchange rates, both of which the OP has no control over.
 
Lets use the 100k mentioned.
A few years ago I knew guys living well on 1000 pounds per month giving a 75k baht per month life style.
Inflation and exchange rates mean the same life style will now cost 100k baht per month, or two thousand pounds per month income needed.
 
Can the OP take that sort of hit.
For inflation, 3 years ago I was renting a 10k per month house that now rents for 13k per month, you can do the maths.
Petrol that cost 20 pence per litre now costs 80 pence per litre.
A car that cost 9000 pounds will now cost 16,000 pounds.
 
Is the 100k per month index linked, if so to where?
What sort of income will the OP be getting in say 5 or 10 years time, using the examples above, will it still provide the same lifestyle he can buy today?
 
I dont know of any expats that moved here to live on 30k per month.
I would be interested to know what sort of lifestyle that would provide a 36 year old guy.
Will he be able to afford a mortgage and put money into a retirement plan or private pension fund?
 
I am far from negative, more a realist, some need to take off the saffron tinted glasses and experience the cost of living in Bkk for example.
 
Wait until the op experiences the delights of the bureaucracy involved in something as simple as opening a bank account.
Need work permit sir.
Must buy this insurance product sir.
Let the Op try and obtain financing to purchase a car.
Suppose the OP wants to buy a condo,try the bank for financing.
 
The OP is still in holiday mode, nothing wrong with that, Thailand has seduced many and will continue to do so.
The OP should be aware of the realities of living here full time and long term.
 
I wish him well.

 
The OP was asking about his Visa Options only, now what part of that don't you understand ?
 
Incidently why are you talking about exchange rates when the OP has approx 100,000 baht per month
 
But anyhow, just a few things you have wrong
 
A few years ago I knew guys living well on 1000 pounds per month giving a 75k baht per month life style.
 
A few years ago (lets say 3 years as per below) the rate wasn't 75, closer to 48.
 
For inflation, 3 years ago I was renting a 10k per month house that now rents for 13k per month, you can do the maths.
Petrol that cost 20 pence per litre now costs 80 pence per litre.
A car that cost 9000 pounds will now cost 16,000 pounds.
 
Related to the exchange  rates, the car cost  will be nearer 8,000 pounds not 16,000 pounds
 
If your relating everything to 3 years ago then people will be approx 10% better off now, obviously allowing for inflation !

 
Asking about exchange rates coz I would love to know where in farangland he is getting 100k baht per month income, its all about exchange rates aint it?
 
A few years ago, ok sorry for being so vague, lets say 10 years ago when the Brits were big timing it with 75+ baht to the pound.
The same guys I refer to are now living out a 50k per month life style, so in reality are going backwards.
 
As for car, Honda Civic, 10 years ago 9000 pounds, today new Honda Civic, 800,000 baht, please let me know where I can buy a new Honda Civic for 8,000 pounds or 400,000 baht.
 
BTW, I offered the guy 4 suggestions on where to live in Thailand, you have offered how many?

I get paid in sterling. A year ago I think I was getting about 46 baht to the £ or thereabouts, now it's 54-55 baht. Those mathematicians on here should be able to work it out but it's around a 15% increase. Better than a kick in the nads.

With your background in Police Work your best bet is to look into Expat Security. This puts you into to some troubled countries (i.e. Libya, Algeria, Iraq) but the rewards far outweigh the risks.
 
Your wages are double or triple most times but the best part is you only work there, and are not expected to live their. You simply do a rotation, and then they fly you anywhere where you want to go for some R & R. The best rotation is 28/28 where you work 28 days in a role (12 hours shifts) then they send you to wherever you want to go for the next 28 days. Many younger people I met, who were on this schedule, got to see the world this way.
 
You might have to take some specialized training, but I can assure you it is far easier and quicker then going to university for 4 more years. With your background in Police Work, you would find this training easy, and many courses you may have taken already. The ideal candidate are people with Military Training, or Police Training. So Military Police probably being the best ones.
 
Anyway, and over the years, I have met many of these guys. All of them love there work, love being an Expat and turn Green when asked if they would go back to there old jobs. The best Security Services come from the USA and they generally only hire USA Citizens. But somehow, with a name like Bald Eagle, me thinks you are from their,.

The arse fell out that years ago. It's a real close knit community now. Most of the jobs now go to Eastern Europeans and South Africans willing to work for a lot less than western expats.

I'd drop this idea now tbh

Spent a lot of time in Iraq, most of the security work is done by Brits, yanks and a few Irish. Money isn't as good as used to be but it's not bad.

How long ago mate? I know it used to be. I was with Nabors there. All our rigs and all the bearded nutters in the Halliburton base were mostly what I described

In Basra and then later on up in Kurdistan where it was a lot less noisier. On and off for about 5 or 6 years. The drilling company in Kurdistan was some Chinese lot then they moved out before they ended up killing someone and as most of the drill crew were nephews of the local warlord. Not a good thing to do.

I'd try and get right to the top.

Corporate Headquarters/Store Support Center:

7-Eleven, Inc.

One Arts Plaza

1722 Routh St., Suite 1000

Dallas, TX 75201

Main Phone Number: 972-828-7011

Jeez, and all for 18 baht.

Why doesn't the OP spend his time complaining to the local brigadier or chief constable about the amount of corruption in the police, instead he chooses to pick on a teenager on <deleted> money who didn't give him a stamp worth 18 baht. I know why, it's easier to screw a young girls life with no repercussions instead of going to his local police station where he would be given about 2 seconds of their time before he finds out which orifice a truncheon is meant for. It's called bullying.

With your background in Police Work your best bet is to look into Expat Security. This puts you into to some troubled countries (i.e. Libya, Algeria, Iraq) but the rewards far outweigh the risks.
 
Your wages are double or triple most times but the best part is you only work there, and are not expected to live their. You simply do a rotation, and then they fly you anywhere where you want to go for some R & R. The best rotation is 28/28 where you work 28 days in a role (12 hours shifts) then they send you to wherever you want to go for the next 28 days. Many younger people I met, who were on this schedule, got to see the world this way.
 
You might have to take some specialized training, but I can assure you it is far easier and quicker then going to university for 4 more years. With your background in Police Work, you would find this training easy, and many courses you may have taken already. The ideal candidate are people with Military Training, or Police Training. So Military Police probably being the best ones.
 
Anyway, and over the years, I have met many of these guys. All of them love there work, love being an Expat and turn Green when asked if they would go back to there old jobs. The best Security Services come from the USA and they generally only hire USA Citizens. But somehow, with a name like Bald Eagle, me thinks you are from their,.

The arse fell out that years ago. It's a real close knit community now. Most of the jobs now go to Eastern Europeans and South Africans willing to work for a lot less than western expats.

I'd drop this idea now tbh

Spent a lot of time in Iraq, most of the security work is done by Brits, yanks and a few Irish. Money isn't as good as used to be but it's not bad.

In my experience of offshore there are more nutjobs on the average drilling rig than you find in Broadmoor. Moved to production and process where at least, in the coffee shop, you don't have to listen to the latest BS fantasy some driller has dreamt up. Offshore workers can make up any number of fantasy's as there is very little chance of being caught out, money is the favourite one. I think I've heard most of them now and just turn off my receive mode. Thankfully I just have a few more years left before I find my little spot on the beach.

Why? A few stamps worth less than a satang, much less. Why?

Oh, well that makes it okay then.

You've never taken a biro from work or had a crafty phones call from you office or ................ same same?

Yes, sounds very similar if not the same. A touch of ponzi with unrealistic interest rates thrown in. My friend is thinking of entering into a similar arrangement again. I just don't know how they can expect it to be a successful venture. Your comment about losing face rung a bell as I was told the full amount was held by some big cheese and participants had to answer to him. I've also heard some young Thai mothers talking about doing the same in the UK. Not up to me but I just know it will all end in tears.

"unrealistic interest rates"

The interest-rate is set by the prospective-borrowers bidding for the use of the capital, no doubt an economist would claim that market-forces are the best possible mechanism for allocating the scarce-resources, but I share your doubts.

I don't see why a really-desperate prospective-borrower wouldn't over-bid, then be unable to generate the necessary returns, and thus become unable to repay at the end of the loan-period. I'm thinking of someone using the loan to repay an even-more-expensive-debt, for example a mafia-loan at 20-30% per-month ?

Balanced against that, the lenders would achieve the best possible return on their money, so long as it did all work. So it would work well for the lenders/contributors. And a cooperative micro-credit system like this might be common in Chinese/Thai culture ... I just don't know.

The 'big cheese' would of course be regularly approached for loans anyway, and might even generate a good income, just as long as loans were repaid. I've always been reluctant myself, to have arms/legs broken (joke !), in order to obtain repayment, so have (on the few occasions we've lent) required a proper security. But a loan to a university-student, against an almost-new laptop-computer given by Mummy/Daddy, is sometimes seen as just a way to sell it, no intention ever to repay & reclaim.

There's also a distressing attitude that, if you can afford to lend it, you can afford to lose it too, mai pen rai !

In the UK it was IME common for young Thai wives/mothers to help one another out, and not mention it to their ever-loving husbands, not unreasonable that people finding themselves living in a strange new country/culture should support one another. But I always wondered about the pressure to repay, and what sources of 'easy money' that might lead to, a lottery-ticket is never a sound investment IMO !

But which of us wouldn't, despite being generally against gambling, take part in the office sweep-stake on the Grand National ? It's a slippery slope ! (Don't sue, I meant ramp, not Asian !)

However what can go on here, with the mafia & influential-persons benefiting, can be much darker & cynical, there's desperation & true evil behind the smiling faces, sometimes.

Have to agree. I find some Thai girls who move to the UK and see the riches that are beyond their reach become very bitter twisted very quickly. Some revert to what they know best ..................

The sex industry is only a very small part of the Thai economy. Tourism is about 6% of GDP and I don't think for one minute every tourist visits a girlie bar.

What makes you think it is restricted to tourists? And since no records are kept no taxes are paid, it really isn't any part of the economy, officially, but of course it is- more than 6 % too, I'd bet.

Got to say I doubt very much that the sex industry pulls in more GDP than tourism, which is measured in the trillions (and I've seen it estimated as up to 20% of the GDP).

So if tourism is 20 % then it seems reasonable the sex industry, tourist and indigenous , and all it supports, the providers, pimps, cops, etc, could be a substantial percentage, too, and all untaxed.

I really think it is a basis for the country's corruption woes.

Have you ever been to Thailand?

One of the best ways of gaining merit with Buddha and the in-laws is to spend a day in the paddy with all the associated fishy/eel type things and an aching back.

I just need a place to have a business, where I do not need to hire 4 local staff, when I want to hire a foreigner who can do the job. Besides that would be nice to be able to own 100% of the business, I invest 100% in and not only 49%. Have until now stayed here for personal reasons and because I hoped things would change to the better. Since this does not seem to be the case, then luckily I have other options.

There are actually countries out there, who actually value foreign investment and skills and who will not make things as complicated as possible for me. The current situation here does not attract or value foreign investors and entrepreneurs. It might take some time for Thailand to see that, but when they do it might also hurt the people living on their pensions here.

You make it sound as if Thailand owes you a living. It doesn't. And don't make it sound as if you're doing or wanting to do Thailand any favors. You're only in it for yourself. You are not what Thailand considers "valuable foreign investment." But as you say, you have other options. Take it. When you are gone, it will be as if you were never here. Same as the OP. Why people try to overstate their self-importance is beyond me. You mean as much to Thailand as you did to your home country...which is why you left in the first place.

This country can not survive mainly on GoGo bars and Russian tourists...

The sex industry is only a very small part of the Thai economy. Tourism is about 6% of GDP and I don't think for one minute every tourist visits a girlie bar.

What makes you think it is restricted to tourists? And since no records are kept no taxes are paid, it really isn't any part of the economy, officially, but of course it is- more than 6 % too, I'd bet.

Nah, sex tourists always overestimate themselves.

You have done the basic research and already know what jobs you can't do in Thailand right? Regardless of your qualifications and experience right? If yes, then read on.
 
You have the option of paying for courses that may get you pretty rapid and comparatively well paid work in the oil patch ANYWHERE.
 
Once in the oil patch anywhere, there's a good chance of a decent rotation that allows you to take regular breaks in Thailand.
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You seriously think he'll get a job "anywhere" on the patch rapidly?

I think you're very mistakes considering most of the world use locals or cheap Asian labour for HSE bods
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Are you a compulsive speed reader or what Franky? If you took time to read the previous sentence, "...paying for courses that may get you pretty rapid and comparatively well paid work..."
 
I didn't seriously say anything like what you are inferring by your selective reading and editing. By totally omitting my second statement which was actually the crux of my comparison, ie. "...taking a free course that is very unlikely to get you rapid and comparatively well paid work..."
 
If he pays good money for appropriate training and certification now, he has a BETTER CHANCE of getting what he seeks versus doing a free course that has dead-end street written all over it.
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I've been doing it 30 years. No need to do any courses apart from the basics that everybody has to to do. Any other courses you do at your own financial risk.
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Oh here we go... I have been doing it for 35 years with only the standard industry certification as well but between us, what does that mean to the OP?
 
Bugger all apart from the common knowledge that it was loads easier to get into the oil patch back then than it is now, That's why there's old buggers senior consultants like myself holding down cushy numbers in paradise because the INDUSTRY has all been a bit remiss in investing in their biggest asset, the employee. Unfortunately, I now have to supervise boat loads of twenty-somethings with a shiny degree and an iPad and the first thing they ask about when they come on shift is how fast is the internet connection.
 
But a good point is made about not doing superfluous courses, even some of the mandatory offshore safety ones as they can be done after getting the job offer has been accepted and the employer will pay for them. BTW, if there ever was a course dreamed up by a collusion of training centers, it has to be MIST. Biggest moneymaker since the 3-year 'refresher' on the 4-year gong.
 
Other good point made earlier, the OP should focus on entry level oil field in his home country... unless of course he's from a country that aint got a dog in that fight as it were. In that regard, I would be plumb out of ideas.
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Got an email this morning telling me for UK waters I have to do an EBS add-on which is for the compressed air, not the re-breather, there you go another rip-off. You come down in a helipcopter and you are just strips of meat, never mind breathe out, press the release valve and calmly ..................................

What does 28/28 refer to?

It's a work pattern oil workers and seafarers use. 28 on and 28 off. Refers to work cycle. Many various 14/14, 21/21, 28/28, 35/35 or 42/42. The rotations are almost infinite, used to do 9/2 (weeks) in China.

Come to think of it bridge engineers and road builders use the terminology aswell.