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It's not a visa, it's a permit of stay. The stamp reads 'extension of stay permitted up to ....................' It's that date you enter.

They want the very first date of entry into Thailand and the expiry date of your current extension.

Health Insurance only required if you extend your stay from original entry of a Non Imm 0-A visa.

500 baht for what? When/how did you pay this?

You can request the Bangkok bank Ranong bank transfer your account from Phuket to Ranong. If you leave the account in Phuket, you'll incur 'out of province' charges each time you withdraw from an ATM.

@glegolo18 If it's your intention to use the combo method, I suggest you confirm with Chaiyaphum their interpretation of the funds part of the combo. For the income part, whether you use monthly overseas transfers or an Embassy Income letter is immaterial, as both are acceptable. These ambiguously written clauses are interpreted differently by various IO's regarding the funds in the bank part. I've read of expats using 200K funds in the bank and the remaining 600K evidenced by proof of income. Clause 5 suggests funds and income must total 800K, then 3 months after the extension is granted you can withdraw funds under the same condition as stated in (4). However, (4) refers to withdrawing half of 800K and the remaining balance must be no less than 400K. My IO's interpretation of those clauses is that if using the combo method, you must maintain no less than a funds balance of 400K throughout the year. Check Chaiyaphum interpretation about the funds part. i.e. If you're using 400K as the funds part, can you withdraw half (200K) 3 months after the extension is granted, or do you have to maintain a minimum balance of 400K.

@glegolo18 I recommend you also download Amend 138-2557 (2018 ) clause 2.18-2.22 for Thai bank income ENG.pdf which amended the original document checklist regarding the income method part, which includes both 65K overseas transfers, or Embassy Income letter as evidence.

I believe you're looking for the original order 327-2557 (2014) - Criteria for extension ENG.pdf Section 2.22 Or perhaps this one; Amend 138-2557 (2018 ) clause 2.18-2.22 for Thai bank income ENG.pdf Section 2.22

You can also download Police/Immigration Orders from here:

The latest Police order regarding the criteria for an extension based on retirement is here: 35-2561 (2019 (changed clause 2.22 of 327-2557 ENG.pdf Is that what you're seeking?

Depends on the bank. Bangkok bank can update on the day without a transaction.

There is no 'retirement visa', you obtain a Non Imm O visa for the purpose of retirement. That permits a stay of 90 days, but you can apply to extend your stay for a further 365 days (commonly known as an extension of stay) subject to meeting the financial requirements. You must have Non Immigrant status to apply for 1 year extensions of stay. You cannot apply for a 1-year extension if you entered on a Tourist visa because your Immigration status is 'tourist' and not 'Non Immigrant'. Re medical concerns, there are Government hospitals, private hospitals and private clinics. You can either take out a Health Insurance policy or prefer to self insure. Private hospitals can be very expensive, up to 5 x the cost of government hospitals. Your experience suggests you went to a local district government hospital. Find out where the Provincial government hospital is, practically all the doctors speak English there. Doctors are invariably contracted to work xx hours in a private hospital, and xx hours in a government hospital. Many also run their own private clinics.

@Red Phoenix Suffice to say, it really depends on whether CW check his previous financial method used for his current extension. My own experience is that the 12 x 65K overseas transfers have been accepted with no check on which method was previously used. But by the letter of Immigration orders, he hasn't met the conditions for the extension he currently has, in that he didn't maintain a balance of 800K for 3 months after the extension was granted, but will they check is the question?

Docs Extension of Stay based on Retirement.pdf

The purpose of the Non Imm O ME has been abused for years to allow foreigners to literally remain in Thailand with a few border runs. Savannahket until recently were the last to require proof of finances, though. In most instances, you needed to apply from a Thai Embassy where you were a citizen or residency, so proof of funds came from your foreign bank account. Savannahket, Lao, allow both non-citizens and residents to apply but could hardly request funds in a Lao bank. They have always been the exception to the rule. Only proof of a marriage certificate, copies of wife's Tabien Baan and ID card have been enough to secure a Non Imm O ME from Thai Embassies, without proof the relationship is dejure and defacto, so it's open to abuse if you were previously married, divorced, but still retained copies of the above documents. I don't see how you're disadvantaged, unless you were one of those mentioned above, previously married, divorced, but still retained the required documents, but now they've thrown a further obstacle of requiring 400K THB in a Thai bank that you really don't want to do. By that, I mean according to one of your recent posts, just Tuesday last in fact, you stated you were not married. https://aseannow.com/topic/1323260-can-i-fly-in-without-interrogationdeportation/#comment-18795514 Pot calling the kettle black!

What is your point exactly! You're complaining about the financial requirements for the Non Imm O ME visa from Savannahket, for what reason.

You now require 400K THB in a Thai bank account for 2 months for the Non Imm O ME from Savannahket. You can apply for a 60-day extension to visit a Thai spouse at Immigration.

If you enter on a Non Imm O visa, and have a Thai bank account with 800K THB already deposited, you can apply for the 1-year extension of stay after 45 days at most Immigration offices, 60 days at others. To clarify, the MFA are responsible for the Thai Embassies/Consulates that issue visas. Thai Immigration are responsible for extensions of stay, which are permits, not visas.

Just because it isn't listed doesn't mean they don't offer it. The Non Imm O ME based on Thai spouse isn't listed, but available. You require 800K THB in a Thai bank account for the Non O ME based on retirement. The same financial requirement as for the 1-year extension of stay at Immigration.

No, it's not income based. The business tax is based on the floor area size of the premises. The signage tax is based on how many and what area any advertising signage is displayed.

And a lot of those that currently don't pay taxes, have businesses that work on cash, striving to cover day to day living expenses, so it never sees the light of day in a bank account. I appreciate the hard work and effort you put into informing everyone and posting about Thailand's personal tax guide, but I don't agree with the speculation and scaremongering it's caused that all foreigners incomes to Thailand will be taxable. I have it on good authority from my local Tax office that the new laws were never aimed at foreign retirees or those with Thai spouse/families. They are fully aware which Countries have reciprocal double taxation treaties and that only 'net' pension incomes are being transferred.

She pays those taxes to the local provincial government, not Thai tax revenue department.

Yes, I know. I also reclaim those taxes, but only because I have a TIN. I simply request a 'statement of tax paid' from the bank and voilà, I receive a reimbursement cheque shortly after. No TIN, no reclaim of taxes, No TIN, no submission of taxes. Again, my wife also runs her own business, self-employed since age 24. Her business is registered, and she pays a 'business' tax, but that's directly to the Provincial government, not the Tax office. She also pays a 'signage' tax, but again direct to the local Provincial government. In terms of personal taxation, she has never registered, never been asked to register and wouldn't have a clue how much her turnover is in a year. There are only some 10 million Thais, out of 70 million, registered for tax and half of them are government employees. Most Thais are classed as self-employed, non tax registered and don't pay tax. If the tax revenue is looking for more money, they should start there. I was self-employed in the UK for over 35 years, but by law had to keep accounts.

How would they access account information, Thailand also has its own data protection laws. You'd still require a TIN for tax purposes. When you walk through the town, all those coffee shops, restraints etc run by Thais. You do know they're not registered for tax, right! They don't keep account records, it's cash transactions. Nobody comes knocking on their door, because they're not registered for tax. You're not still trying to submit your 90-day reports as 7/11 are you Mike.

You do realise that in order to pay or reclaim tax in Thailand, you firstly have to be registered for tax purposes and be issued a TIN for identification purposes.