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Some Embassies supply a letter of proof of income, such as the British Embassy, where the proof of income must be shown first.

Other Embassies notarise a statuary declaration, often without proof of funds.

Either are accepted by Thai Immigration as proof of income.

You can renew your licence in any Province, but a small fee is charged if it's not your home Province.

Regardless of Province though you will be required to take the usual tests again, including the Colour Blindness.

What's makes your wife think Yasothon is any different?

I reported last Monday , I am still in the " pending " stage. I usually find , if I am not" approved with in 2 or 3 days , I am forgotten about so to speak. Is there a way I could nudge/remind them , or could I report again ?

My office (Amnat) have always told me to ring them if a pending report isn't approved within 2/3 working days.

I've only had to call once and they approved it whilst I was on the phone.

After trolling the Pharmacies and a number of Clinics for a couple of days, all of which gave blank stares when my symptoms were described, I took the plunge and visited Roi Et government hospital.

My condition was quickly diagnosed as Angioedema

Apparently it's another condition that can sometimes happen along with Hives.

It mainly causes swelling and itchiness to the hands, feet, eyes, lips and in severe cases the throat.

I was dispatched with a prescription course of antihistamines.

Total cost 74bht for consultation, diagnoses and supply of medication.

Millions of Foreigners believe in God and Jesus, the son of God.

What evidence is there that they ever existed, only those told in the Bible.

I don't know if ljd1308 or kannot are believers, but if they are, they are also hypocrites.

At some point in your childhood, didn't your parents tell you if you were good, that a man called Santa Claus would bring presents at Christmas time, and when you lost your first tooth, if you placed it under your pillow, a fairy would take it and leave sixpence.

Absolute fable, but for a while you believed it.

Would that mean your parents abused you for a period kannot?

A child, as we once were, will grow to develop their own mind, thoughts, opinions and beliefs regardless of what you are told as a child.

Thais are Buddhist, not a religion and not philosophy, but a way of life.

They are entitled to their beliefs and opinions, without personally attacks about their way of life.

If you don't agree, then agree too disagree, but to suggest they are child abusers because of their teaching is way out of line.

I do not believe in made up things, that includes all gods and their children....So I am not a hypocrite according to you. My parents did lie to me about santa claus and such, you are right.....but why would you want to lie to your children? Why do you need to? I certainly don't with mine.

The 2nd highlighted bit pretty much hits the nail on the head..... The Thai person believing in ghosts has not developed their own mind, they are just basing it on what they were told as a child.

I have not attacked anyone, I have just asked perfectly reasonable questions which have been avoided like the plague(as most religious people do).

If Thai's do not think their Buddhism is a religion.....then why do they pray? And who do they pray to? I did ask this but it was one of the many things there was no answer too.

We are not Thai, nor born into a Buddhist way of life, so we'll never understand regardless of any explanations.

I do however respect the right of each individual to his own belief, provided it doesn't cause harm to others.

As far as I know Thai people pray for dead relatives or give food to monks in the name of dead relatives. It gives good deeds to dead spirits and help them to shorten the time to wait for next life. They also pray for a good way of life and to provide for family.

Plenty of information about Buddhism, just google your questions.

Millions of Foreigners believe in God and Jesus, the son of God.

What evidence is there that they ever existed, only those told in the Bible.

I don't know if ljd1308 or kannot are believers, but if they are, they are also hypocrites.

At some point in your childhood, didn't your parents tell you if you were good, that a man called Santa Claus would bring presents at Christmas time, and when you lost your first tooth, if you placed it under your pillow, a fairy would take it and leave sixpence.

Absolute fable, but for a while you believed it.

Would that mean your parents abused you for a period kannot?

A child, as we once were, will grow to develop their own mind, thoughts, opinions and beliefs regardless of what you are told as a child.

Thais are Buddhist, not a religion and not philosophy, but a way of life.

They are entitled to their beliefs and opinions, without personally attacks about their way of life.

If you don't agree, then agree too disagree, but to suggest they are child abusers because of their teaching is way out of line.

there's a good dentist chinese thai man speaks good english,i have been there to get my teeth cleaned for 600 baht,did a good job.It's on paduang panit road left hand side before temple,If you were coming into roi et on road route 2044 you would keep going straight over the the klong go over 2 traffic lights drive 1 klm more keep looking for dentist sign on the left.

I've also heard this dentist recommended, however a friend and his Thai wife both went for a clean (he didn't know they were together) and he charged half the price for his Thai wife. I detest anyone who operates a dual pricing system for foreigners, good or not.

Lots of Dental practices around, the problems are parking and opening times.

Sent a PM.

Thanks for your input folks.

Just to update, over the last couple of days the numbness in my fingers has receded, but I notice small red, very itchy blemishes appearing on both hands, on my right forearm and left armpit, very similar to the same condition when I had an allergic reaction, but to a lesser extent.

Just small red, itchy, slightly swollen blemishes that come and go within 24 hours.

Yesterday the blemishes appeared on both feet, today there gone, but another has appeared on my forearm.

It's to coincidental with my recent allergic reaction to consider spondylitis as the cause, I'm practically T-total, and don't play hand ball games.

I'm thinking the same as ammagic, that it's a lingering allergy not cleared up by the Steroids.

I agree with many of you though, and I'm looking into finding a good orthopaedic consultant, I live in Roi Et

I recently took a trip back to the UK and became sick the day after arriving.

The GP diagnosed a water infection and put me on a 7 day course of antibiotics.

Apart from the urge to constantly urinate, I felt quite poorly, sleeping a lot, feeling nauseated, and not eating for 4 days.

The GP then prescribed me something to stop the nausea and regain my appetite, however I immediately had an allergic reaction to this medication and came out in a rash covering my whole body.

I was then put on a 5 day course of steroids, and the rash eventually cleared up.

Since then I have experienced a numbness and tingling to the index and middle finger tips of my left hand, and an itching sensation to the little finger.

This started the day before I returned to Thailand, 5 days ago.

I had a blood and urine sample taken and tested a few days before returning and nothing abnormal was detected.

I wonder if this could be Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, perhaps brought on by the infection or allergic reaction to the medication.

Would a course of anti inflammatory medication help, (which one), or should I seek further medical advice.

Sent you a PM.

Hi Ubonjoe

Many thanks Ubonjoe.

Will Look into this option

Just be warned, though, that the dependant spouse may encounter major problems when the time comes for them to apply for an extension of stay because Immigration will almost insist on an Embassy-certified copy of the marriage certificate, which for us Brits involves a convoluted, time-consuming and bureaucratic process these days. Read the following thread which was originated by someone who recently found herself in this situation: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/904437-uk-marriage-certificate-needs-letter-from-british-embassy/

It's quite straightforward to get a certified copy of any document that will be legally accepted in Thailand from the UK.

Employ the services of a Notary Public, he will get any document authenticated by the FCO, then legalised by the Thai Embassy in the UK.

On arrival in Bangkok, get it translated to Thai, then legalised by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

It will then be accepted by any Government office as a legally binding document.

Marriage to a Thai in Thailand can be achieved via the same route.

The affidavit can be prepared in the UK before arriving.

A lease doesn't prove ownership.

If Woofer was a Thai citizen, his ID card and blue Tabian Baan would be sufficient for Immigration.

However he is not Thai and by law the blue Tabian Baan which he was issued when he purchased the Condo doesn't allow his name to be entered into the book as a foreigner. In these circumstances only his Chanote is real evidence of ownership.

As I previously stated, nothing unusual about Immigration or the tenants request. I suggest you stop scaremongering.

UJ is spot on with his summary Woofer.

It's normal to take the landlord's ID and house book when applying for extensions as proof of address.

Being a foreign Condo owner though your name will not appear in your blue book.

Your chanote will carry your name though and proof of ownership.

The renter may require a copy of your passport, chanote and blue book to satisfy Immigration.

Nothing unusual about his request.

Sorry Kenny, but you are so wrong. My wife has many friends from both universities that she attended and from places she worked and her family as well and they all know and use my name when talking with me or my wife. Of course we all socialise together, whether that is anything to do with the respect side of it but they only use the farang term when talking about strangers. As fey said it would be very disrespectful.

HL

No. I'm not wrong. We're talking about 2 completely different races of people. My missus left school at 12 born and raised in a village. If it's a tractor they call it a tractor, a farang a farang. They even refer to themselves in a third person sense. I know these people don't use the term farang in a derogatory way or to offend, as they would rather cut their hand off than do this. In our terms they are ignorant and uneducated. I have both educated and dirt poor Thai friends. Like I said completely different races. I like them equally

Oh yes you are. I completely agree with HL

My g/f was born in a village in the middle of Sakon Nowhere.

Her family and friends all call me by name.

My farang friends wives all call other Farangs by their name once they know them.

Thais have nicknames and rarely use their own name amongst friends.

Only if they speak about foreigners in general and not about a specific person do they use the word farang.

If your g/f and family are still referring to you as a farang, time to put your foot down and tell them it's Kenny!

If only one had to attend, there'd be Thai women queuing a mile long and a lot of Farangs back on the singles market.........and poorer and car less.

Kenny, with greatest of respect, your not listening or learning.

Government hospitals provide their services for public living and registered within there catchment area, under the 30 baht scheme, but outsiders have to pay, unless they have been referred from one hospital to another.

I'm sure when your g/f first entered the KK hospital she would have explained the circumstances.

KK would have contacted the hospital in Chaiyaphum and the doctors agreed a transfer arrangement in order to treat your g/f under the 30 baht scheme.

Of course they would automatically transfer her medical records, so they knew any allergies etc.

The KK hospital appear to have been very helpful in this process, but probably told your g/f that she needs to officially change her address to KK if she needs further treatment under the scheme.

They have effectively bought her time to make these changes under the circumstances.

If you don't want to make these changes, then if in 6 months time your g/f needed hospital treatment at KK again, I'd guess they would say they had given enough time for your g/f to make the changes and either offer her the option to return to the Chaiyaphum hospital for treatment under the 30 baht scheme, or receive treatment there, but pay for it.

Please re-read Sheryl's post ~39.

Faz, to my knowledge a Thai cannot register under the "30 baht" scheme at just any government hospital. It has to be the one that covers the physical location where they legally reside.

Up to you. I'm just trying to help you understand how the systems work here for Thais.

Mate again you have assumed a whole lot. May have mislead with my opening remarks but it's not a case of me not bothered to do it and her wanting to do the right thing. My reluctance is to not go on a wild goose chase. You may have seen a big car accident yesterday on the news where 2 guys died. They were her cousins and she is thus terrified of making this trip as well as the discomfort it will cause her and the baby. A relative in Chaiyaphum is not an option, they're all down south. What I was questioning was her interpretation of the procedure. She would rather cut her arm off than call and check options. Greing jai....you understand. Like I said have done many unesacary miles because of this. All the stuff about future schools and convenience etc is a moot point as we don't plan to live here long term. For now if the baby is able to get medical in Khon kaen I am happy. Well wait until after Songkrahn and the missus is feeling better and make the trip then and pay the fine. I believe the hospital scheme is the 30 baht scheme and am aware of moving medical registration. By the way, I'm the one who does most of the worrying and has the initiative to do things properly. She hasn't been uprooted from her family home and taken against her will to an unfriendly and foreign environment. I loved living in her village, she wanted to move here. And as for eating off the floor, hardly doubt it as i do 98% of the cooking (inc Thai food) as well as most of the housework....and pay for everything. I do this not because I'm an idiot but enjoy being busy. Appreciate ur time and effort but u flavour ur replies with little jibes and sarcasm from assumptions that just aren't the case. Please also don't assume you know what others on TV are thinking or speak on others behalf.

Thanks

Kenny I really am trying to help in your predicament.

If I assume, it's only because you haven't given the full facts, so I am left to assume.

However I have no wish to offend and offer my apologises if I have done so.

Short term I would return to Chaiyaphum as soon as possible;

1. To get the baby register on it's Mothers TB.

2. To get legalised as the babies Father.

Longer term, you wife needs to find someone she can trust who will allow her to use their TB to register her address in KK so that she can use the local services there, rather than keep returning to Chaiyaphum. I agree with your wife about the neighbours. Landlord, yes, or wait until she makes friends and can choose for herself who to trust.

Please let us keep it civil.

Faz, to my knowledge a Thai cannot register under the "30 baht" scheme at just any government hospital. It has to be the one that covers the physical location where they legally reside. If it were otherwise, half the country would be registered at Siriraj or Chulalongkhorn and their ilk, and for sure no one would be registered at a "community" (i.e. district level) hospital where almost everything has to then be referred up a level. Yet they are (and not happy about it). Indeed which hospital covers what location is often a factor in decisions about where to move.

Might be different for children under age 2, and never applies in an emergency, but otherwise AFAIK this is the rule.

Correct, which is why it's important for his wife to get on someone's blue book in KK asap.

However according to my Thai g/f no Thai will ever be refused medical treatment at any government hospital, for example they are visiting family in another Province.

However they will face a barrage of questions because they are registered elsewhere and will be charged

Children up to 2 years of age can attend any hospital and receive free care, which was Kenny's main concern.

It sounds as though his wife had her records sent from Chaiyaphum as in a referral to KK so she was treated under the scheme.

That's an assumption because Kenny didn't mention any charges.

That would be a one of situation but in the future his wife will either have to go back to Chaiyaphum for any treatment under the 30 baht scheme as that is her registered location, or pay at KK, or change her address to KK

It's a damn sight easier for a foreigner to move throughout Thailand, than it is for a Thai and I don't think Kenny yet appreciates the hoops his wife has to go through changing her details to a new province in order to get the services that she relies on. The problem is exasperated by the fact they now rent, so she has to rely on someone else in KK to allow her to use their address in order to complete her move to KK.

After just having a caesarean I don't think she is in much of a position to do anything at the moment.

Kenny's hands are tied to a certain extent because they are not legally married.

In hindsight these problems should have been foreseen and discussed before moving, but that's easier said than done.

At 8pm in an evening if you need cash for an emergency, your esaver account is worthless.

That's not correct. I can use my smartphone to log into Standard Chartered internet banking, transfer funds into the JustOne account, then go to any ATM and withdraw it. That can all be done within 5 minutes, and I've done it before for 25k THB withdrawn from a Bangkok Bank ATM.

otherwise your going back to Savannakhet to get a single entry Non Imm O to allow for the seasoning period.

I could instead apply for a 60-day extension of my current entry couldn't I, just to allow for the 2-month seasoning?

You can apply for the 60 day extension.

You will have to move the money into an accessible account which has a bank book. Both bank book and a letter from the bank will be required by immigration when you apply for the 12 month extension.

Not if he doesn't listen to the good advice he's receiving.

He'll be refused on his esaver statement, get a 60 day extension, then transfer the funds to his account with Passbook and ATM facility, but 60 days isn't 2 months, so he'll be back to Savannakhet for another Visa.

It's his first extension, let him find out the hard way and argue with Immigration.

Kenny I am trying to help you,

It probably is patronising because I'm looking at it from your wife's prospective and the problems she has.

All administarations are dealt with on a Province to Province basis, therefore when a Thai moves to a new Province they need to reregister all their personal documents to that effect in order to deal with local government offices. If they don't it will cause problems and countless trips back to their old Province.

For the short term your wife just wants to get her baby onto her Tabian Baan and comply with the law.

It appears she is willing to make this effort but it would cause you great inconvenience because of the 6 hour drive.

Jeez, she's been in labour for 9 months and had a Caesarean operation.

She has been relocated from a home she owned to a home she doesn't and will be aware of the things she needs to do in order to make her life easier to stay in KK. She is worried, concerned and you probably don't understand her aspirations.

If it were my g/f, I'd be getting her ID card, TB and babies birth certificate, getting up at 5am to go back to Chaiyaphum, pick up a relative and take them to the Amphur to register the baby on her TB. But that's me.

I've now probably said what others are thinking as well.

Why did you say your surprised my GF doesn't leave me in KK and go back too Chaiyaphum. Whats that about?

Your reluctance and complaint about a 6 hour drive to put your g/f's mind at ease.

If I were her I'd make my own arrangements and leave you behind in KK.

You'd be eating off the floor for a while as well as the dog.

A Thai can use any government hospital, but they need to register their details.

They don't need an address but do need their ID card. Living in one province but having an ID issued in another province may raise questions and delays, but not medical treatment. Most Thais are covered for medical under what's known as the 20 baht scheme. A government scheme to make hospital treatment affordable to all Thais.

The baby isn't old enough to have it's own ID card yet until aged 7.

It was born at KK hospital and they issued the birth certificate, so the babies information is registered there.

If you took the baby back to Chaiyaphum for example the local hospital will want details to register the baby.

In any event it will receive free medical treatment at any government hospital.

Having a TB and ID card registered within the same province you live, makes life a whole less complicated for Thais without running a gauntlet of questions and form filling. Long term your wife needs to get registered on someone's TB in KK, then change her ID card. She will know this anyway.

The neighbour is not a good idea, you have no mutual interests and your g/f is correct again.

The landlord would be a much better option because you have a mutual interest in the fact you rent his house.

Alternatively wait until she makes friends and can choose who to, or not to ask.

Until then be prepared to do some 6 hour trips if she has any official governments affairs she needs to attend to.

Thanks for all the "free advice" and ur opinions Faz but my question some posts ago was what happens if we don't register in 15 days and more importantly will the child be eligible for medical in the mean time.

I don't know which comment u suggest a reason my gf leaves me but you have presumed a lot.....as many often do here. I know my situation better than anyone as far as marriage, child's future welfare etc. If I was wondering what I should do there I would have asked. Please leave that to me. Do you know if a child under 15 is entitled to medical in every province irrespective of Tabian Ban. ...or not?

Your quote from opening thread;

My missus moved her medical from Chaiyaphum to KK. The baby was born in KK.

You answered your own question with regards to free medical for the baby in KK.

It's all about registration within provinces in Thailand to avoid delays.

A Thai can visit any government hospital but they have to register first.

You can attend any private hospital in Thailand, but you'll pay.

Children will never be refused medical care at any government hospital for free, usually up to the age of 2.

Adding the baby to the Mothers Tabian Baan is a separate issue not associated with healthcare but the registration of all Thais whereabouts.

You can be registered as living in BKK but live in CM, but it will cause problems.

Many Thais do go back and forth, for one reason or another.

We are foreigners, in a foreign Country and whether we agree or dislike the inconvenience some procedures may cause us compared to what we're used to, it's their way, their system and the Thais are very accustom to it.

It can be very frustrating for foreigners to understand.

The new pension is among a number of reforms to taxes, National Insurance allowances and savings coming into effect today to back hard work, support savers and ensure economic security at every stage of life.

Ossy, your having a larf.

What do you think we did for 35 + years.........played tiddly winks!