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The Thai Immigration Act BE 2522 Section 37 & 38, requires Aliens to notify any change of address to Immigration within 24 hours, or where an Immigration office is not within their province, in person to the local Police Station of their province within 48 hours and then by mail or in person to your local Immigration Office using Form TM 28.

There is also a requirement for the home owner to notify Immigration of an alien taking residence in their home. They are required to follow the same procedure as above, but using Form TM 30.

Thai Immigration Act BE 2522.

http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/doc/Immigration_Act.pdf

I have never heard of a Thai official asking a Thai person for a TM-30. Have you?

Hotels and Guest House owners do it online.

The principal resident should do it for private dwellings. Landladies, landlords, wives, girlfriends, etc.

Some Immigration offices will insist on a TM30 to change address, others will just accept the TM28.

Instead of continually criticising others for trying to help, why don't you read the information for yourself in the links provided.

I have never heard of a Thai official asking a Thai person (private person) for a TM-30 form. I think you are trying to stir up fear and put a new enforced regulation in place where there is none. Why don't you stop making up enforcement procedures where there are none? Just my opinion.

If you know of any Thai official that has asked a private person for a TM-30 feel free to mention it.

Should every Thai home owner who has an alien guest notify the Thai government? Obviously not. Unless you know of any Thai government official who has asked a private home owner for that information I believe I am correct and you are wrong.

But hey, feel free to correct me by your experience and let us know of the government asking a private person for this form.

Dear Mr lostoday,

With the greatest of respect a member is asking for advise on changing address.

I am quoting what the law (Thai Immigration Act) states is the correct procedure.

You appear to state 'not needed, never heard of it'.

Now if that OP followed your advise and then a TM30 was requested, what would be your answer to them.

On the other hand if they go prepared and a TM30 isn't requested, has it caused any harm.

It can make the difference between being successful as with an application for anything in Thailand and save time and money, as opposed to a refusal and then running around like a headless chicken to get the required document.

Law on Immigration

Section 37 : An alien having received a temporary entry permit into the Kingdom must comply with the following :

2. Shall stay at the place as indicated to the competent official. Where there is proper reason that he cannot stay at the place as indicated to the competent official, he shall notify the competent official of the change in residence , within 24 hours from the time of removing to said place. 3. Shall notify the police official of the local police station where such alien resides, within twenty – four hours from the time of arrival. In the case of change in residence in which new residence is not located the same area with the former police stations , such alien must notify the police official of the police station for that area within twenty – four hours from the time of arrival. 4. If the alien travels to any province and will stay there longer than twenty – four hours , such alien must notify the police official of the police station for that area within forty – eight hours from the time of arrival. 5. If the alien stays in the Kingdom longer than ninety days, such alien must notify the competent official at the Immigration Division , in writing , concerning his place of stay , as soon as possible upon expiration of ninety days. The alien is required to do so every ninety days. Where there is an Immigration Office , the alien may notify a competent Immigration Official of that office. The provision of ( 3 ) and ( 4 ) shall not apply to any cases under Section 34 by any conditions as prescribed by the Director General. In making notification under this Section , the alien may make notification in person or send a letter of notification to the competent official , in accordance with the regulations prescribed by the Director General .

Section

Section 38 : The house – master , the owner or the possessor of the residence , or the hotel manager where the alien , receiving permission to stay temporary in the Kingdom has stayed , must notify the competent official of the Immigration Office located in the same area with that hours , dwelling place or hotel, within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the alien concerned. If there is no Immigration Office located in that area , the local police official for that area must be notified. In case the house , dwelling place , or hotel where the alien has

stayed under provision of Para.1 is located within the Bangkok area , such notification must be reported to the competent official at the Immigration Division. Making notification , in reference to the Para 1 and 2 of this Section , must comply with regulations prescribed by the Director General.

Section

In reply to your other question......Yes............every hotel or guest house owner submits the relevant TM30 forms by law.

When I moved to a private dwelling and reported my change of address to Immigration, they not only contacted my landlady, but handed me a TM30 for her to complete. Subsequently, other farangs who have moved into the area have all been asked to supply TM30's.

This is at Amnat Charoen which covers Roi Et, Yosothon and Amnat Charoen.

I've always regarded myself as a hardworking class type of person, that worked for everything I achieved.

As an aside I always voted Labour although my own personal views were much more left wing as a Socialist.

In terms of what's best for expats in the coming election, no one party will have the power or desire to fight to change the policy on frozen pensions.

The next best we can hope for is the pound to strengthen against the baht, to which, and I hate to say it, but that will only happen if the Conservatives are re-elected even as part of a coalition.

A coalition with Labour at the helm will see the pound weaken.

Regardless of your personal views, a vote for the Green party or UKIP will be a vote wasted.

Neither are going to be any part of any coalition.

The Thai Immigration Act BE 2522 Section 37 & 38, requires Aliens to notify any change of address to Immigration within 24 hours, or where an Immigration office is not within their province, in person to the local Police Station of their province within 48 hours and then by mail or in person to your local Immigration Office using Form TM 28.

There is also a requirement for the home owner to notify Immigration of an alien taking residence in their home. They are required to follow the same procedure as above, but using Form TM 30.

Thai Immigration Act BE 2522.

http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/doc/Immigration_Act.pdf

I have never heard of a Thai official asking a Thai person for a TM-30. Have you?

Hotels and Guest House owners do it online.

The principal resident should do it for private dwellings. Landladies, landlords, wives, girlfriends, etc.

Some Immigration offices will insist on a TM30 to change address, others will just accept the TM28.

Instead of continually criticising others for trying to help, why don't you read the information for yourself in the links provided.

The Thai Immigration Act BE 2522 Section 37 & 38, requires Aliens to notify any change of address to Immigration within 24 hours, or where an Immigration office is not within their province, in person to the local Police Station of their province within 48 hours and then by mail or in person to your local Immigration Office using Form TM 28.

There is also a requirement for the home owner to notify Immigration of an alien taking residence in their home. They are required to follow the same procedure as above, but using Form TM 30.

Thai Immigration Act BE 2522.

http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/doc/Immigration_Act.pdf

A guy with almost no experience in Thailand telling folks here for 30 years and Thai immigration they are wrong strikes me as a bit odd.

In other words you are acting like an expert with very little actual experience.

I'd think one should be here for a while and have experience with many immigration offices and at least speak Thai before he acts like an expert.

I would class you as a newby and suggest that you include, "in my experience or in my opinion or from my limited experience" in your posts about immigration policy.

In my humble opinion.

Another armchair critic, with no personal knowledge about myself.

Just what part of - 'Your new form will be stamped as of the expiration date of your old receipt' don't you understand from the Immigration website.

Is it not plain English or too hard for you to understand.

More than 1 poster has said the same as me.

I know each individual Immigration office has it's own quirks.

That doesn't make a right a wrong when it's in writing but you choose to ignore it, and most Immigration offices don't follow their own guidelines.

As for the little experience I have of living in Thailand. How many Asian Countries have you visited, how many times?

I did my research and felt the water long before I decided to live here.

Expats of 26 years briefed me on my arrival of what could and couldn't be achieved.

In 1 year I've surpassed there achievements............due to my lack of experience obviously.

You won't find all of your answers on TV.

If you want real experience, get of your butt and get out there. Not only will you get the best advice from Thais who have lived their entire lives here, but you'll make new friends along the way.............please, spare me the inexperienced crap.

I research, read, listen and learn.

I also speak six different languages fluently............what's your experience.

...when you've met the cream-of-the-crop revelers...

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And in another topic, Thailand apparently has some of the most beautiful women in the world.

But then again, Thailand doesn't have any 'Specsavers' shops.

Happy Songkran.

When you go to visit great grandma, in a tiny village, in the middle of nowhere, to discover it's their carnival day and being the only farang (and first to be seen by many) your touched and groped by all the women, drenched, fed and watered, danced your socks off and treated like a celebrity.

What a blast...........best fun in years, and not another farang in sight.

Must be good for a man u fan, people liking you hahahahhahahahahahahah, only joking, btw what part of london are u from

Even in the remote villages of Thailand there are always Man U fans. London?...............Manchester, born and bred.

Can't feel a damn thing in the tip of my right forefinger, except pain to the touch. My forearm is sore too.

Reminds me of a guy that went to the doctors complaining that his whole body was sore to the touch.

Leg, knee, foot, arm, elbow, head, chest.

"What's wrong with me Doc" he asked.

"Broke your finger" replies the Doc!

When you go to visit great grandma, in a tiny village, in the middle of nowhere, to discover it's their carnival day and being the only farang (and first to be seen by many) your touched and groped by all the women, drenched, fed and watered, danced your socks off and treated like a celebrity.

What a blast...........best fun in years, and not another farang in sight.

Tywais, I politely disagree.

I've had this same debate with udonjoe.

I report to Amnat and regardless of whether reporting in person or by mail, they will always date your next report 90 days from the date of expiry of the old receipt, not 90 days from when you make the report. I believe that is the correct procedure.

I'll even refer to the Immigration website 'Notification of Staying over 90 days'.

http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=90days

It gives the procedures for notification by mail or in person.

Underneath those procedures it has a number of Notes.

- Your new form will be stamped as of the expiration date of your old receipt.

That clearly suggests your new stamped report date should be 90 days from the expiry date of the old receipt, not the day you applied.

That is what Amnat follows, I suggest other offices that do not, are actually wrong.

Out of curiosity how many 90 day reports have you done?

Three. The next one is due 5 days before my extension expires.

When my extension is renewed my next report will be 90 days after the extension date.

I don't see the relevance of your question.

Sorry "Faz"...wrong or not, at Chiang Mai immigration, your next 90 days starts from the day you do your report.

This is correct. Whether another TV member thinks it's "wrong" or not is irrelevant. Lotta posts here lately from individual members stating their opinions and presenting them as "fact".

I'm well aware of offices that start the next 90 day report from the day you do your report.

What I'm pointing out is that according to Immigrations own website, reports should be 90 days from the expiration date of your old receipt.

You have a window of 15 days before and 7 days after your report date to attend in person.

If you attended 5 days after your report date, your new date would be from 90 days from the day your report was due, not the day you attended.

Just because you apply a few days early shouldn't make any difference.

Submitted on April 1st. Still pending. Chiang Mai Office. Looks like I get to make a trip there. Sigh.

Chiang Mai went online around 7th April and the first approval was received same day.

It's in the Chiang Mai Forum; http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/815424-90-day-reporting-online-just-did-it/page-2

Your 'pending' application is waltzing around in cyberspace. This is what happens if applications are made before your local office is operational.

Only a handful of offices were active on 1st April. Other offices are gradually being brought online, but it will take weeks for every office to be operational.

If your not sure if your office is operational, ring them first to save wasted time.

How do you know all of that?

Because I took the time and made the effort to find out.

1. My own Immigration Office

2. A Bangkok Immigration official.

3. Immigration Service Hotline 1178 or 1111.

Confirmed by Immigrations website:

http://immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=90days

notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days via Internet （work in process）

Your new 90 days should also start from expiration date of your old receipt, not from the date you did the report.

No, it actually starts the new 90 day clock from the time of approval. Many reports showing this including the online successful ones. Also my experience over several years of both walk in and mail in reporting.

Tywais, I politely disagree.

I've had this same debate with udonjoe.

I report to Amnat and regardless of whether reporting in person or by mail, they will always date your next report 90 days from the date of expiry of the old receipt, not 90 days from when you make the report. I believe that is the correct procedure.

I'll even refer to the Immigration website 'Notification of Staying over 90 days'.

http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=90days

It gives the procedures for notification by mail or in person.

Underneath those procedures it has a number of Notes.

- Your new form will be stamped as of the expiration date of your old receipt.

That clearly suggests your new stamped report date should be 90 days from the expiry date of the old receipt, not the day you applied.

That is what Amnat follows, I suggest other offices that do not, are actually wrong.

Being a newbie i don't know how to start a new post

Go to the main link: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/

Select the forum most suited for your proposed topic. e.g. General Topics.

Click on 'General Topics' (Forum opens with lists of topics displayed)

Top left it will display 'General Topics' with total pages underneath. One the same line, to the far right, you will see 'Start New Topic'.

The website clearly states if your application is not processed you need to appear in person.

It most certainly does not say that. It says:

"Failure to complete the online application form properly and failure to submit the required information may affect your chances of apply notification 90 days online.

The applicant (or authorize someone to file for you,only in case of not overdue), must come to the nearest Immigration Office or Branch Office in your residence area."

Additionally, since you can mail in your 90 day report, there is no need whatsoever to go in person to an Immigration Office for a 90 day report.

Online reporting can be made 15 -7 days before your due date.

Mailing in should be made 15 days before your due date.

If you choose the online method then fail to get an approval receipt your too late to then use the posting method.

In that situation you have no other choice than to attend in person.

Those who get the 'contact Immigration' message also need to attend in person if they wish to do future online reports, to check their details against the details on the Immigration database.

Many members also still have applications 'pending' because their office is either not yet functional, or their office became functional on a later date to when the member made the application.

Again, not true. The 15 days prior to due date for mailing is a guideline.....plenty of reports of people mailing them in 4-5 days in advance and having no difficulty. Last time I mailed it a total of 72 hours elapsed from the day I mailed it until I received the confirmation in the return mail.

Up to you. The rules clearly state:

- Your registered mail must be sent to the Immigration office at least 15 days before the due date of notification.

http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=90days

In another public notification about 90 day reporting from Immigration, it also states;

'The mail must arrive at the Immigration office 7 days before the 90 day period is expired' (attached pdf).

There are also reports of members receiving warnings for late mail applications, or refusals.

90day_notification.pdf

Submitted on April 1st. Still pending. Chiang Mai Office. Looks like I get to make a trip there. Sigh.

Chiang Mai went online around 7th April and the first approval was received same day.

It's in the Chiang Mai Forum; http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/815424-90-day-reporting-online-just-did-it/page-2

Your 'pending' application is waltzing around in cyberspace. This is what happens if applications are made before your local office is operational.

Only a handful of offices were active on 1st April. Other offices are gradually being brought online, but it will take weeks for every office to be operational.

If your not sure if your office is operational, ring them first to save wasted time.

Your new 90 days should also start from expiration date of your old receipt, not from the date you did the report.

The website clearly states if your application is not processed you need to appear in person.

It most certainly does not say that. It says:

"Failure to complete the online application form properly and failure to submit the required information may affect your chances of apply notification 90 days online.

The applicant (or authorize someone to file for you,only in case of not overdue), must come to the nearest Immigration Office or Branch Office in your residence area."

Additionally, since you can mail in your 90 day report, there is no need whatsoever to go in person to an Immigration Office for a 90 day report.

Online reporting can be made 15 -7 days before your due date.

Mailing in should be made 15 days before your due date.

If you choose the online method then fail to get an approval receipt your too late to then use the posting method.

In that situation you have no other choice than to attend in person.

Those who get the 'contact Immigration' message also need to attend in person if they wish to do future online reports, to check their details against the details on the Immigration database.

Many members also still have applications 'pending' because their office is either not yet functional, or their office became functional on a later date to when the member made the application.

Yes, you must make your second entry before or on the 'enter before date' or your Visa will expire.

lostoday, on 14 Apr 2015 - 08:19, said:

Faz, on 14 Apr 2015 - 07:44, said:

Mrjlh, on 13 Apr 2015 - 20:46, said:Mrjlh, on 13 Apr 2015 - 20:46, said:

I moved from Samui to Pak Chong several weeks ago. Even got the Chief of Police to sign a statement "guaranteeing" I reported my new address on time. You know that little line on the bottom of the TM form which says to report to the police? They didn't know what to do about it because the officer assigned to do that service was out that day. "One Stop Service" as their sign says paid off. It's possible Korat doesn't have my address on file but the letter will prove otherwise. That could be the snag.

I also reported to Korat several years ago when I lived in Korat. If memory serves me, they are not the most pleasant office to deal with. Long lines mainly and a long way out of the city too.

I'll let you know how it all goes.

When I moved address, I immediately reported it to my local Police Station (same as you) on a TM28. They had no idea what to do with it, but I got them to sign it and give me the tear of slip. I also asked them for a Certificate of Residence as further proof.

A few weeks later when my next report was due I went in person to the Immigration office with a new TM28 completed and a TM30 completed by the new landlady.

I took the C of R and previous TM28 tear of strip from the local police along with the following documents.

Completed Form TM 28.

Completed Form TM30.

Passport + Copy of Homepage showing given names / Passport number / Hologram etc, plus

- Current Visa and

- Last Extension stamp and

- Last Entry Stamp

Copy of House owners Tabian Ban

Copy of House owners ID card.

Original Rental Agreement + Copy

Map detailing Address + Copy

Original TM 6 Departure Card + Copy

I watched as they changed my details on the database, no problems.

As soon as they had made the changes, I gave them the TM47 and did the 90 day report.

Never had any problems doing reports since.

Follow the procedure and you should be OK.

What immigration office? Sounds like Phuket.

Amnat Charoen.

Change of Address, unlike a 90 day report, requires proof of your new address.

It's a change of details to what's already held on record.

Requires similar documents to when you do an extension, except for different forms, and the financials.

Extensions based on marriage submitted at Amnat, have to be approved at Korat and their known to be keen about documentation.

What about bring gifts from your home Country back to Thailand?

In the UK everything on the underside says 'Made in China'

Mrjlh, on 13 Apr 2015 - 20:46, said:

I moved from Samui to Pak Chong several weeks ago. Even got the Chief of Police to sign a statement "guaranteeing" I reported my new address on time. You know that little line on the bottom of the TM form which says to report to the police? They didn't know what to do about it because the officer assigned to do that service was out that day. "One Stop Service" as their sign says paid off. It's possible Korat doesn't have my address on file but the letter will prove otherwise. That could be the snag.

I also reported to Korat several years ago when I lived in Korat. If memory serves me, they are not the most pleasant office to deal with. Long lines mainly and a long way out of the city too.

I'll let you know how it all goes.

When I moved address, I immediately reported it to my local Police Station (same as you) on a TM28. They had no idea what to do with it, but I got them to sign it and give me the tear of slip. I also asked them for a Certificate of Residence as further proof.

A few weeks later when my next report was due I went in person to the Immigration office with a new TM28 completed and a TM30 completed by the new landlady.

I took the C of R and previous TM28 tear of strip from the local police along with the following documents.

Completed Form TM 28.

Completed Form TM30.

Passport + Copy of Homepage showing given names / Passport number / Hologram etc, plus

- Current Visa and

- Last Extension stamp and

- Last Entry Stamp

Copy of House owners Tabian Ban

Copy of House owners ID card.

Original Rental Agreement + Copy

Map detailing Address + Copy

Original TM 6 Departure Card + Copy

I watched as they changed my details on the database, no problems.

As soon as they had made the changes, I gave them the TM47 and did the 90 day report.

Never had any problems doing reports since.

Follow the procedure and you should be OK.

khwaibah, on 13 Apr 2015 - 10:36, said:khwaibah, on 13 Apr 2015 - 10:36, said:

Faz, on 13 Apr 2015 - 10:26, said:Faz, on 13 Apr 2015 - 10:26, said:

steven100, on 13 Apr 2015 - 09:56, said:steven100, on 13 Apr 2015 - 09:56, said:steven100, on 13 Apr 2015 - 09:56, said:

my 90 day report is still ' pending '

Steven, I don't know which Immigration office you report to, but I would go and make your report at the office.

Cancel your pending report, otherwise you won't be able to use the system again next time.

Its Songkran and nobody is at work until April 16.

Yeah, thanks khwaibah, I think everyone is aware of that.

He can still cancel his online report though. Databases don't recognise holidays.

You can also still submit applications during holidays and weekends.

And as soon as his wife realises he thinks she has a bipolar condition, she will defend her 'face' by saying he's crazy..........and start another argument.

It takes two to argue, follow MaeJoMTB's advice and take a short leave of absence.

If that doesn't work take a permanent leave of absence.