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4 hours ago, LivingNThailand said:

Now I'm doing it online for the past 2 times, and it appears that their system has changed to be actually every 90 days with no reset on extension day.   At least that is what I am assuming at this point.   We will see.   

Very unprofessional to give you the report date on a post-it note.

You mentioned a change of staff, and therein may lie your issue.
Rotated staff will continue the practice from their previous office unless instructed differently.

90 day reports and extension renewal dates should be completely separate.

When we had a new senior IO, he changed the 90-day report dates to be reset from the extension issue date.

You can file online from 14 days before the due date up until the due date.
However, the online system is automated, and issues the next report date from the date of approval, not the date it was actually due.

Go to any door and window manufacturer, such as, https://kph.co.th/

If they don't replace broken glass panels, they'll be able to recommend someone who does.

Next time the girlfriend throws an ornament at you, don't duck!

13 minutes ago, paddypower said:

very curious to know, since there are 2 types of extensions, do the restrictions on working apply to both types of extensions?

Already answered by @DrJack54, but I'll just add, although work is permitted on an extension based on Thai spouse, you still require a work permit to be legal.

Current criteria for permits of stay based on retirement.

35-2561 (2019 (changed clause 2.22 of 327-2557 ENG.pdf 

Current criteria for permits of stay based on Thai spouse/family.

327-2557 (2014) - Criteria for extension ENG.pdf 

Scroll down to section 2.18

6 minutes ago, BangkokAlan said:

That only happens if you apply in last few days of your extension validity where your under consideration goes beyond your existing extension date but you are permitted to remain under consideration. So if you went out you would invalidate but if you apply early leave and return with the date of your existing extension date it’s ok and two immigration officers confirmed this as I was worried about leaving and re-entering but I had 5 days left on my extension and re-entry permit and was given a stamp on re-entry 5 days taking me up to my renewal date 

Similar.

Some years ago, I submitted my extension application based on Thai spouse 43 days prior to the validity of my extension and received an under consideration stamp dated 30 days after my current extension expiry date (73 days). I was then informed of a family bereavement.
I returned to my IO for a re-entry permit and questioned the validity. I was informed, provided I return before my extension expiry date it was valid.
Returning on 8th with an extension dated the 8th, and an under consideration stamp dated until the 10th of the following month, it raised a few eyebrows on re-entry.
The entry clearance officer called a supervisor, they shrugged their shoulders, and he pointed to my existing extension.
They stamped me in for 2 days until 10th.

1 minute ago, Crossy said:

 

My understanding is that the "Under Consideration" period counts as a new extension and so invalidates the existing Re-entry Permit. I've been wrong in the past mind.

 

So, whatever his dates are he will need a re-entry permit for the under-consideration period.

 

Of course, you can guarantee that, if you ask your immigration office and they say "no need", you will meet an officer at the airport with the opposite opinion.

 

IMHO it's worth the cost of a single re-entry permit to remove all doubt.

 

Let me put it another way.

The OP has an extension of stay valid until 8th June and a multi re-entry permit.
He intends to take a weekend trip, returning on 4th June.

There would be nothing to stop him from applying for his next extension between 4th - 8th June.

The under consideration stamp doesn't invalidate a period of stay already granted, in this case until 8th June, it covers the period from 8th June until such date his application is approved.

Your multi re-enter permit is valid until the expiry date of your current extension, that being 8th June.

Provided you return prior to that date, and you've indicated returning 4th June, then you're OK.

If you weren't returning until after your current extension expires, but within the under consideration period, then you'd require a separate re-entry permit for that under consideration period. It appears from your post that your IO date the 30-day under consideration period from the date of application, whereas my IO always date the 30-day under consideration period 30 days from expiry of the extension.

2 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

It's not fully clear from @paddypower's post whether the 400K he mentions, is meant to cover the 2 month + consideration period from a Marriage extension, or the 7 'in between' months from a Retirement extension. 

I presumed he was staying on a Non Imm O Retirement extension, as he would only need +400K during the 2 months pre-application + consideration period when on a Marriage extension.

Yep, he's clearly confusing the requirements for an extension based on retirement with those based on Thai spouse.

Two clearly different sets of requirements.

1 hour ago, paddypower said:

would he not be able to apply the rule where you can withdraw 50% after 3 months and top up his deposit to 400k, 2 months before extension application date? or does that only apply to the 800k 'gang (of which I am a member).

50 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

So you will have to keep the 400k in the bank for 12 months until you have transferred 12 x 40k = 480k. At least you can spend the 40k each month.

No.

When using the 400K funds in the bank, method for extensions based on Thai spouse, the only requirement is to have 400K in a Thai bank account for 2 months prior to the date of application. Although it's recommended to keep those 400K funds in the bank until the extension is granted, you can then immediately withdraw the 400K.
There is no requirement to keep funds in the bank throughout the year, as with retirement extensions.

When switching to the income method, only 12 x 40K monthly overseas transfers are required for subsequent extensions, or an Embassy Income letter.

Issuing and changing type of visa:

https://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/issuing-and-changing-type-of-visa/ 

Not exactly sure if this fits your criteria.
https://bangkok.immigration.go.th/wp-content/uploads/2022C1_01.pdf

I'd speak to your IO fist and explain the situation and your options.

Correct, your current extension of stay expires on the date of divorce.
The re-entry permit also becomes invalid as that relates to the extension.

Worst case scenario, you could apply for a 30-day extension, which will be refused, but you'll be granted 7 days to leave the Country.

Apply for the Non B visa out of Country.

According to their websites, they don't offer the METV, only the TV.

I have the same TM30 receipt from moving to my current address 9 years ago.

3 years ago, the IO mentioned it was 'old', but no requirement to complete a new one, he'd just update it on the system.

8 minutes ago, HarshMellow said:

Question: in this situation, how many months would the 40k monthly deposit need to be made in order to qualify for the monthly deposit method? Would it still need to be 12 months?

Yes, 12 x 40K monthly overseas transfers into a Thai bank account, if you're a UK, US or AU national, otherwise an Embassy Income letter.

9 hours ago, Pattaya57 said:

I think you may have answered your own question. You have a Thai wife but only travelling on a tourist visa so the IO decided you should get the "proper" O-A marriage visa next time. Doesn't make it right but it is understandable. 

O-A is purely applied for on the basis of retirement, not marriage.

3 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

Overall, I think that we often and I include myself in this, fail to appreciate that new measures are not always brought in as a response to anything Westerners do.  There are other large foreign communities in Thailand and one of them is well known for its 'dodginess' in visa matters in the UK. They are probably an even bigger headache for Thai Immigration.

 

That same group were responsible for fake documents being used to allow marriages a few years back that resulted in a lot of Amphurs refusing to marry foreigners for quite a long time and at least one Amphur manager being fired - scapegoated for accepting documents he had no idea were fake.

 

Immigration have far more groups of foreigners to deal with than us. Their responsies don't always seem logical though.

I'd agree, it's the abuse of systems by 'foreigners' generally that bring about changes.

There's a bigger picture to all the problems Thailand as a whole is facing, not just Immigration.

I could name a couple, but it would be off topic.

Some of these problems are self inflicted by the Thai government in there greed for more visitors and more revenue.

They'd save, thousands, millions if they cut out the corruption chains.

1 minute ago, transam said:

Better than looking down my nose at anyone, eh.......😉

Not sure you know where your nose is, you don't appear to know anything.

What 'nothings' Trans?
You constantly evade direct questions with quips.

Time to sit up, smell the coffee beans and start taking notice of Immigration issues.
These financial requirement changes obviously affect you.

8 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

We were previously discussing the fact that it is not always possible for someone with leaves of shorter than 75 days to obtain a 12 month extension of stay. I thought you were adding the 4 weeks rotations in regarding that.

I'm with you now, that was in a previous discussion and yes, that was correct.
There only option was to apply for an extension based on retirement, which of course had different financials.

7 minutes ago, transam said:

Oh, but he did know about dodgy offices, it was his hobby, in fact we used the same office......🤔

Then Joe could have correct your 'nothing' issues, but perhaps you simply couldn't be bothered.

4 minutes ago, transam said:

Wild assumption, you keep looking down your nose, chap......🤔

One line quips, nothing useful again.

1 minute ago, transam said:

Aren't you lucky, try thinking of others, not you and your immigration office...🙄

 

That didn't answer the question!

You love to intervene with your one line quips, without actually offering any information or advice, other than your opinion.
As long as your able to stay in Thailand by any means you don't care about anyone else.

1 minute ago, transam said:

Sadly, we can't bring back Joe, he spoke for members, not for immigration.....🤔

Joe often quoted Immigration regulations.
He couldn't be responsibile for the 'rogue' requirement at certain offices though.

2 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

Yes, but 4 weeks is 28 days. Not even close to 75.

Sorry, but I haven't mentioned 75 days, where does that come from?

2 minutes ago, transam said:

The only problems I have had are with extensions, those being at the immigration office over nothing.

What kind of 'nothings'.
I've been on extensions of stay based on Thai spouse for 9 years and never had any personal issues.

2 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

I am not actually and never was.  I still could never have left my business for 75 days and I can't think of anyone who could. Although self employed, I was mostly under contract to provide advice and services 24 hours per day, 7 days per week if necessary.

 

75 Days is a hell of a holiday - although I did once stay 6 months.

I frequent with a couple of oil workers.
Many work a 4 week on, 4 week off shift.

6 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

The 12 month Multi Entry Non Immigrant Visa (MENO) based on marriage is intended for those who do not live with their wife in Thailand but visit regularly.

 

I'm pretty sure in my mind that the new(ish) 400k requirement has been brought about by people using a MENO to avoid having the same amount for an extension of stay.  I can't see any other reason for the change.

I'd refrain from using the term MENO. You were previosuly warned about this.
If I can write Non Imm O ME, which is the excepted abbreviated term for the visa type, then I'm sure you can.