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1 minute ago, MangoKorat said:

Again?  Where have I said I'm a member of a law firm?

By stating 'from our own website'.

Then posting a pdf download from Thailaw

25 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

From our own website:

 

https://asean.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Thailand185.pdf

That link is from Thailaw online (not our own website) hence the question from @Maestro

If you open the link I gave from (this) Asean Now website https://aseannow.com/topic/981135-laws-regulations-police-orders-etc/ the same Nationality Act could be downloaded at item 22.

You've caused the confusion by stating from our own website, which we took to mean from Asean Now.

14 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

The Thai requirements must surely be equally as clear?

https://library.siam-legal.com/thai-law/nationality-act-acquisition-of-thai-nationality-sections-7-12/

13 minutes ago, indyo said:

A child born to a Thai parent outside Thailand is entitled to acquire Thai nationality, the parents can apply for a birth certificate for their child at the Royal Thai Embassy in the country of birth.

 

source: Thaiembassy.org

That is a commercial website and that isn't a direct link to any info.

13 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

Not at all, I was refering to this website when I said 'from our own website'.

This page, in fact.

https://aseannow.com/topic/981135-laws-regulations-police-orders-etc/

21 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

To nit pick, I suppose there could be a question as to whether a child with a foreign father is considered to have acquired Thai nationality by birth?

In the case of a Thai Mother, who conceived and gave birth, there is absolutely no doubt the child automatically acquires Thai nationality.

17 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

 I am surprised that an entire new constitution fails to determine what constitutes Thai Nationality and makes no reference to any law that identifies such a determination. At least, I can't find such references.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_nationality_law#:~:text=Any person who is a,of the Thailand Nationality Act.

5 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

 

Yes, this was the point of my post, but was not aware of the ability to renew a Thai ID via an embassy. Thanks.

Google your Thai Embassy for details.

This is just an example;
https://thaiconsulatela.thaiembassy.org/en/page/thai-identification-card

6 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

 

As I stated before, revocation is an act of the state. In other words, the state cannot revoke Thai nationality of someone who acquires it at birth. A Thai citizen may renounce Thai nationality as allowed under the Nationality Act. The constitution in this instance is limiting the power of the state, not the power of the citizen.

I'm not sufficiently qualified in Thai law to state your assumption is right or wrong.

What I would state is if the State announces revocation of Thai nationally is prohibited, that effectively takes away the rights of the citizen.

Why would any Thai want to revoke their nationality when they can have dual nationality.

Just now, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

 

It is necessary to be physically present while going through the process of having your name entered into the house registration book and to obtain a Thai ID, but there is no physical residency requirement that needs to be satisfied either prior to or after this process.

You need to appear in person at an Amphoe to register in a Tabien Baan and receive an ID card.

No physical residency requirement thereafter and ID cards can be replaced/renewed through a Thai Embassy.

6 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

Revocation is an act of the state, not an act of the citizen.  I don't think this clause over-rides the Nationality Act that allows for renunciation of Thai citizenship in certain cases.

"The revocation of Thai nationality acquired by birth shall not be permitted."

That's a pretty strong statement by the State, taking the option away from any Thai citizen.

1 minute ago, MangoKorat said:

I'm not doubting what you have posted but I note that is is listed as a draft.

https://www.admincourt.go.th/admincourt/en/law_detail.php?id=495

Official translation posted by the Thai Administrative courts - same PDF.

1 minute ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

 

Revocation by the state is not permitted, but voluntary renunciation at age 20 by a dual national is allowed.

Not according to the Thai Constitution. (2017).

3 hours ago, jaxon said:

 

My understanding is that you have to be resident in Thailand to apply for the ID card.  

Correct.

This page may be more to your situation.

https://www.thaicitizenship.com/thai-citizenship-when-born-overseas/

1 hour ago, MangoKorat said:

 

Actually, I'm not going to spend hours looking for the law from an official source with an official translation, simply because the last time I did just that, there were still those who said its not true.

 

You can either believe it or not - personally I couldn't give a monkey's toss.

 

From our own website:

 

Section 14
A person of Thai nationality, who was born of an alien father and has acquired the
nationality of his father according to the law on nationality of his father, or a person who
acquires Thai nationality under Section 12 paragraph 2 is required, if he desires to retain
his other nationality, to make a declaration of his intention to renounce his Thai nationality
within one year after his attaining the age of twenty years, according to such form and in
the manner as prescribed in the Ministerial Regulations.
If, after consideration of the said intention, the Minister is of opinion that there is
reasonable ground to believe that such person may acquire the nationality of his father or a
foreign nationality, he shall grant permission, except in cases where Thailand is being
engaged in armed conflict, or is in state of war, he may order the dispensation of any
renunciation of Thai nationality.

 

 

https://asean.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Thailand185.pdf

But there has never been any penalty imposed for not revoking Thai nationality in such instances.

That section of the Nationality is overshadowed by the 2017 Thai Constitutional Act.
Section 39 states; 

Section 39. No person of Thai nationality shall be deported or prohibited from entering the Kingdom.
The revocation of Thai nationality acquired by birth shall not be permitted.

https://cdc.parliament.go.th/draftconstitution2/download/article/article_20180829093502.pdf

So a Thai couldn't revoke his nationality even if he wanted to.

1 hour ago, MangoKorat said:

Again you post information from a commrecial website.

That is not a commercial website.

Commercial websites are the online presence of businesses with the clear objective of promoting products and enhancing visitor awareness. Their primary goal is to boost sales for the associated brand, and this objective is reflected in both their content and design.

3 hours ago, TruthinThailand said:

Has anyone bought this policy and have they claimed? Was the claim met in full?

These policies were originally introduced for the applicants of Non Imm 0-A visas (long stay visas) where medical health Insurance was mandatory and then for annual extensions of stay from a Non Imm O-A. Health Insurance is not mandatory for other standard visa types, nor extensions of stay from those visa types. Regardless, it covers the person named in the policy.

Don't know which plan you took, or what premium you paid, but this is the LMG link. https://www.lmginsurance.co.th/en/long-stay-visa-plus

LMG have a good reputation. 

Non B, working presumably, then why are you not enrolled in the Social security scheme?

What does the visa type matter, it covers you, not your visa.

5 minutes ago, TravelingWell said:

Hi

So, The 60-day extension is available with each new visa & exemption & not capped to once per calendar year?

Available once for each and every entry.

25 minutes ago, blazes said:

 

Sorry to push this, Dr J, but what is your opinion of reversing the methods:

1. Apply for Tourist Visa -  60 days.

2. Apply inside Thailand for non O (family)- 90 days.

Does applying inside Thailand make the process in any way "easier"??

That really depends on your long term plans.

Do you intend to stay in Thailand now, or return to your home Country and visit regularly?

8 hours ago, BaanOz said:

 

How many times, nothing to misplace - it was not an amendment.
 

She went to Isaan where her Mum was registered without her old ID, got a DNA test and a shiny brand new ID. Not sure maybe 10-15 years ago.

 

How this was actually achieved? I wasn’t there to tell you the fine details.

Would you like me to attach a picture of them - haha.

 

End of story, I’m dreaming to get a visa based on our marriage unless we can dig up her old ID and that’s not going to happen.

What you're describing would be a gangster's paradise.

A new name and ID with no trace of the old name and ID.

You married the invisible woman.  😉

6 minutes ago, BaanOz said:

It is definitely possible and they are not the same.

It isn't possible, a Thais ID number never changes for any reason.

Could you imagine the consequences if any Thai could simply visit an Amphoe, change their name, obtain new ID and there was no record of it.

If the Thai ID number is the same as on her TB, then the changes were recorded.

I'm sorry, but the tale just doesn't add up.

Even if for any reason the Amphoe 'forgot' to issue the certificate, or your wife misplaced it, there would still be a record on the system, which can be located through her ID number.

1 minute ago, BaanOz said:

Correct but she got a new one.

Not ID number, that never changes from being issued.

The Thai ID number on her old ID card and new will be the same.

@BaanOz

The Thai ID number never changes, even if changing her name.

If the Amphoe states they have no record of the name change, then they must still have her registered in her aunts surname!
How then can she have an ID card in her Mother's name, unless she officially changed her name.