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Nothing would surprise. I'd say it will be the weather to blame, and leave it at that. No hope of a genuine inquiry being released to the public - using the old 'in the interests of national security' clause. I see a lifejacket washed up on an island of Chumpon today, with a plastic bag attached holding the ID card, wallet, phone. of one of the crew members. Strange, however maybe he didn't have time to put it on and lost it once in the water. Still, unusual to find it intact like that.

You've quoted from the Academy - 120 successful candidates from 15,000 applicants. No mention of the general conscription 20 year olds. Even then, note the entry requirement - "50-meter swim" SCUBA does not entail being a good swimmer. Royal Thai Navy took approx 6,000 conscripts in this year's draft. Potentially not everyone on board was a professional sailor - some on board in that additional 30 were from the Air and Coastal Defence group. And what's a 'very good' swimmer? I competed across NZ, Australia and SE Asia in open water swims, specialising in 3-5km distances, plus surf lifesaving competition, triathlon, as a semi-professional athlete until 2009. Good swimmer, yes, that was my strongest sector in triathlons, and well above average - but none of that experience would necessarily prepare me for being 20km from shore at midnight in 3-4m swells. Just where would I swim to? Few would survive in the circumstances, as evidenced by these fatalities/missing crew.

An error. If you read the linked article you'll find it was the 191st Special Operations Patrol Division, and that three offciers were involved. Three.

The first good news of the day for searchers, ThaiPBS News reports that a crewman Channu Kaensriya has been found at 2.00pm this afternoon, alive. No success in locating the remaining 29.

All? My partner is an accountant for a civil engineering company, costing contracts for highways and bridges; currently 155 staff but this often increases for specific contracts. Current daily rates for non-salary staff are 400 basic and up to 1100 per day for the skilled machine operators - these machines are not cheap to buy, touchscreen computer operations, training with the manufacturer upon purchase eg Wirtgen, Sakai. With individual contracts often 600-800 million baht any enforced wage increase will simply be added in to the costing for each contract tendered for; won't make them any less competitive as same will apply to competing contractors. And just to add here, one of the more pricey machines, lays double-lane asphalt, its prime operator is a woman, as are several of the other earthworks machine operators. I'm told they're better at the job!

Just a comment on the sea conditions that night - two other ships, one trawler and an oil tanker aground: Thai-MECC [Thai Maritime Enforcement Command Centre] Region 1 reported that in addition to the Sukhothai: The freighter Anuphum encountered heavy seas about 5.7 nautical miles from Chumphon, which caused the ship to list. The cargo ship's ten crew were rescued by another vessel, the Pataravarin 88. Merchant ship Santhat Samut 2, with nine crew members and a cargo of timber, sent a distress signal before the ship sank about 35 nautical miles from Samui. All of the ship's crew were safely rescued, and some 30 containers were spotted near the shore in Surat Thani's Chaiya district, the office said. Trawler Sor Nopparat 4 capsized about 30 nautical miles southwest of Koh Samae Sarn, although fortunately, all of its crew were rescued safely. Oil tanker Pattarapun was swept towards the shore by strong winds, causing it to run aground in the mouth of Songkhla Lake. The company which operates the ship will tow the tanker back out to sea when conditions permit.

Bringing your work home . . . Takat Ngao about 2km inland from Paknam Khaem Nu on the Chanthaburi coast Eastern Thailand: Chachoengsao, Chanthaburi, Chon Buri, Prachin Buri, Rayong, Sa Kaeo, Trat

Agree there's something missing or lost in translation. What happened to the kayak - they don't tend to sink if overturned, just left floating out there? The quoted BBC article states he said he was going to "swim to shore" rather than get back to the jetty; which may suggest he was swimming away from the jetty to the shore/beach, but as above still doesn't seem right. More questions than answers, sad for his friends and family.

Everyone's a comedian on Aseannow. Thairath currently reports there are still approx 30 crew members unaccounted for and a search effort is underway involving ships, Dornier aircraft and helicopters. 12 hours in the water; and of course the possibility some may have been below decks.

Eastern Thailand comprises the provinces of: Chachoengsao, Chanthaburi, Chon Buri, Prachin Buri, Rayong, Sa Kaeo, Trat Winter calm, 15 December 2022 at Chao Lao beach, Chanthaburi Eastern Thailand: Chachoengsao, Chanthaburi, Chon Buri, Prachin Buri, Rayong, Sa Kaeo, Trat

When these movies are made for the full theatre experience, some despair at 'waiting for the torrent' for tv viewing.

No doubt you've 'said it before' Bust as others have also said before - as does the article, she was not driving the motorcycle. She was pillion.

Bikes. Is it luck, maintenance? I bought a Giant ATX Pro XL frame here (Chanthaburi) 2012 and had it built with components of my choice, 2.1" road tyres, and recorded 38,000km on it by end 2019, nothing dramatic other than regular maintenance + tyres, chains, etc. I wore it out; gave the frame/wheels away to a local who did a rebuild; bought a Trek and it's been similarly reliable - Vittoria Evolution 29" tyres have been brilliant for all-conditions riding. Brought a Specialized triathlon bike back on one of my trips to NZ but prefer the upright riding in local traffic/roads, barely used except for group rides.

I'm surprised the owner admitted to being the owner. I detailed an event on this forum at the time, July 2019, partner knocked off her bike and bitten by a dog while cycling to the gym. Grazes, and a course of treatment in case of rabies. 'Owners' denied it was their dog, rather it was a stray that lived there that they fed, for at least the two years we'd lived nearby . . . it had chased other walkers/cyclists previously. As they wouldn't do anything, waited till I was away in case of 'blame the farang' and she arranged for its disposal. As it "wasn't theirs" they could hardly complain, could they? Solved.

Guessing you may not be in the target demographic. Daughters 17/22 went yesterday and enjoyed it; a friend in NZ, 60s, who's a reliable film critic and I usually agree with his reviews, suggested wearing a snorkel and putting one's head in an aquarium for three hours as an alternative to viewing the movie. Opinions vary!

He grew up here since age 5 (2008). I doubt Ukraine had any relevance to his being here.

Back to the young man who died - from Thairath News he'd been resident in Thailand since age of five years so I think we can ignore the 'avoiding Putin' claims. Just a kid. Though a very tall one, 2.10m at age 19. His younger brother Benjamin Sobolev, 16, was also present at the time of his brother's death He was the second runner-up in the world in 2018-2019 for Flow Rider Global (surf simulator, as shown above). He only took up basketball at age 17, and played for the Pattaya Basketball Club team and competed in some of Thailand's major 3x3 basketball tournaments, sweeping almost every championship.

Eldest daughter worked at a 7/11 for the last three years of her university studies, part-time, and full-time during her uni vacation. Finished with them in May this year, rate was 380 baht per shift at that time, with some seniority responsibility, also there was overtime available at times. She enjoyed it - good owners, several other uni students on staff, useful work experience apart from the money. Same store has recently been advertising full-time vacancies starting a 10,500 per month, suggests they have increased the daily rate.

Extension for Tourist Visa remains at 30 days.

My response to this is to remove the holidays as well. Same would apply in many western countries where there are compulsory holidays for Christian festivals - Easter, Christmas etc where the greater percentage of population is not Christian. Make allowance for this in annual leave entitlements, staff can take leave if they wish, in line with their own religious or non-religious beliefs rather than impose it on the general population. But having said that, a poll where 219 under 25s were 'anti' is hardly a national referendum, is it?

Top Gun Maverick was fine, but not my own #1 movie of the year As predictable as any action feature movie where the good guy always wins. Spectacular cinematography on the big cinema screen - that's what it was made for not TV/home cinema. Seems enough people liked it, US$1.4 billion so far.

Noen Wong fortress (1834) complete with moat (grassed now), walls and cannon, about 7km from central Chanthaburi city - between the river port of Tha Chalaep and the town of Tha Mai Inside the Noen Wong grounds is the National Maritime Museum - but it's closed at present (December 2022) for major renovation, extension and re-roofing.

Sone interesting pics and locations. But hardly 'Eastern' these recent ones all in the incorrect forum thread. Eastern.

^ looking at the framework behind, appears this is the place FLORA EXHIBITION HALL, Phanprueksa Building, PTTLNG, Map Ta Phut Subdistrict, Muang Rayong District, Rayong Province ● GPS : https://goo.gl/maps/osFqPAw44QiJZmr78

I'll get the details when she's home from work tonight Meantime, a couple of the pics she sent me: