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Their unilateral approach to the UN is just war by other means

It speaks volumes that you're equating a vote at the UN to war.

If they want peace, why not push for direct talks with Israel? You can't seriously think this UN circus brings the region any closer to peace, do you?

You're responding to this post but you haven't addressed the fact that the poster is equating a UN vote to war.

Anyway, in response to your post, over the past twenty years, direct talks with Israel have done little more than produce more illegal settlements. You can't seriously think that the Palestinians are going to put up with this forever, can you?

Their unilateral approach to the UN is just war by other means

It speaks volumes that you're equating a vote at the UN to war.

This sort of advance spin only further illustrates Netanyahu's and the Israeli government's weakness on this. My guess is that he's out of a job by the end of 2012.

I wonder if the UN would consider a bid for statehood from a group that has stated they would not allow Muslims into their new country?

Who or what are you referring to?

If it's Maen Rashid Areikat, he is forcefully stating he was taken out of context and is demanding a retraction from the USA Today. The USA Today has published a new article that provides more context to the quote, and is rumored to be mulling a retraction.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/onmedia/0911/PLO_ambassador_slams_USA_Today.html#

In short, Areikat's point is in regards to illegal settlers.

^ A great questions is asked on that link, "Does the Israeli tail wag the American dog?".

Sounds like more string-pulling on the part of the Israeli puppet masters of the US govt. Why shouldn't Palestine be a state?

They can't stand on their own feet in terms of resources and revenue.

Things will be different once Palestine has the Israeli boot taken off its neck.

As opposed to a gun to the head from fellow Palestinians. Have a look at what happened to the arabs that wanted to make peace or to negotiate something intelligent. They got bumped off. It's why Arafat walked away from a comprehensive peace deal: He was afraid of the radicals.

Remind me again what happened to Yitzhak Rabin for signing the Oslo Accords?

Sounds like more string-pulling on the part of the Israeli puppet masters of the US govt. Why shouldn't Palestine be a state?

They can't stand on their own feet in terms of resources and revenue.

Things will be different once Palestine has the Israeli boot taken off its neck.

It is really is quite frustrating that the inept and arrogant Israeli govt. has put the US in this very difficult position. With "friends" like these...

Hopefully the Israeli people will rise up and throw the current regime out of power. It would be the best thing for the prospects for peace in the region, and the future of Israel .

^ I think this revelation is going to change a lot of plans about buying a new car.

Abbas has announced he will ask for full UN membership but left open the possibility of going for non-member observer status. He will submit the bid for statehood after addressing the General Assembly next week on the 23rd.

It will be a great day for justice and oppressed people all over the world.

http://news.yahoo.com/palestinian-leader-ask-full-un-membership-154313405.html

Air Asia does seem to try and trick/confuse their customers into accepting additional charges (extra baggage, seat selection, insurance), but if you take your time and read all the information on every page and only select what you want, the prices are very reasonable.

I booked a flight this morning, and it probably took me an additional 5 minutes to read an uncheck the various 'options', but the price was well worth that five minutes.

I need to ammend the above post. If the Palestinians go to the General Assembly, they'll need 129 out of 193 votes to be given status as a non-member observer state. As it stands now, 122 nations have already recognized Palestine.

If Palestine gets the 129 votes, they'll be able to join the ICC, and one of the many advantages of this would be that the settlement building would likely come to a halt.

But it's worth pointing out that the content of the resolution hasn't been revealed yet, and the wording will certainly determine how some countries will vote. You can also count on a lot of vote buying to take place.

1 down ~90 to go!

I hope your friends have excellent health insurance which covers motorcycle accidents.

Right now, the US is working the other countries as hard as they can to get one or more of them to veto. The main effort however, and for many logical reasons, the US doesn't want to have to vote on this one.

Yes, Israel has again put the US in another difficult spot. And the US will end up with more bad press and negative world opinion because of it.

Sooner or later the US will need to wake up to the fact that it is on the wrong side of justice.

The Israeli govt. has lowered the bar yet again. This time it is threatening the Palestinians with "harsh consequences" if they seek UN membership.

Who could have ever imagined a time when one govt. threatens another for seeking membership status in the UN.

It's as bizarre as it is despicable.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/8762950/Israel-warns-of-harsh-consequences-of-Palestinian-UN-bid.html

Funnily enough Hamas gave the same warning, but I guess you don't find that either bizarre nor despicable. :jap:

Funnily enough (not really), your attempted spinning of events was thoroughly knocked down by another poster on that thread. To paraphrase the post, Hamas' statement is in regard to defending against future Israeli aggression.

I also have some breaking news to report:

For the UN vote, Israel has finagled the support of Grenada. That's right, Grenada.

If the Palestinians could get the Israeli boot of their necks, they would much more likely to achieve success.

That's what the UN vote is about, and that's why Israel is so frightened of the vote.

The Israeli govt. has lowered the bar yet again. This time it is threatening the Palestinians with "harsh consequences" if they seek UN membership.

Who could have ever imagined a time when one govt. threatens another for seeking membership status in the UN.

It's as bizarre as it is despicable.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/8762950/Israel-warns-of-harsh-consequences-of-Palestinian-UN-bid.html

I'd appreciate some advice on whether or not this is something I should look into.

I currently own a 2006 Honda Jazz i DSI(automatic, dual air bags, anti-lock disc brakes) with 48,000 kilometers on it. It's in very good condition and I haven't had any mechanical problems with it at all. However, I'm thinking that problems might start showing up around 75-100K.

I could be wrong about this, but I think I could sell my current car for approximately 400,000 Baht, buy a 2012 Jazz in my wife's name for 650,000 Baht, and then get the rebate of 100,000 Baht, which would give us a brand new car for 150,000 Baht.

Does this seem like a good idea? Are the numbers above realistic? I'm really out of my depth when the topic is cars, so I would appreciate any information, suggestions or advice.

Thanks.

sounds about right

except personally I wouldnt pay 400k for a 5 year old 88hp Jazz, when brand new 90hp Brio costs same

Thanks for your reply. It's an interesting point you make about the Brio. By how much do you think I'm overestimating the resale value of the Jazz? I came up with the figure by checking a few Thai used car websites and subtracting 12% for markup.

I'd appreciate some advice on whether or not this is something I should look into.

I currently own a 2006 Honda Jazz i DSI(automatic, dual air bags, anti-lock disc brakes) with 48,000 kilometers on it. It's in very good condition and I haven't had any mechanical problems with it at all. However, I'm thinking that problems might start showing up around 75-100K.

I could be wrong about this, but I think I could sell my current car for approximately 400,000 Baht, buy a 2012 Jazz in my wife's name for 650,000 Baht, and then get the rebate of 100,000 Baht, which would give us a brand new car for 150,000 Baht.

Does this seem like a good idea? Are the numbers above realistic? I'm really out of my depth when the topic is cars, so I would appreciate any information, suggestions or advice.

Thanks.

Yet another disgraceful Israeli government policy.

You certainly do not seem to spend much time being outraged over Jews being forced to leave Arab countries, Islamic countries killing their own citizens to stay in power, adulterers being stoned to death or a number of other barbaric practices.

The only vice that cannot be forgiven is hypocrisy. The repentance of a hypocrite is itself hypocrisy.

- William Hazlitt

Please do try to stay on topic. This thread is not about me, Islamic countries or adulterers. Or are you just trying to distract from the actual topic of the thread?

Yet another disgraceful Israeli government policy. I can't believe some are trying spin this as anything other than forced relocation imposed on a minority population by a oppressive regime. This is in part why the overwhelming majority of the world's nations are looking forward to the upcoming UN vote for Palestine to join the General Assembly.

It's a shame Israel didn't do the right thing and simply apologize for its unreasonable use of force against the humanitarian flotilla last year (Please don't bore me with absurd claim that the armed to the teeth Israeli commandos were the one's who were attacked. You can try selling that somewhere else). If the Israelis had only admitted the error, then perhaps this current situation never would have materialized. It's exactly this type of arrogance that repeatedly puts the Israeli govt. in these types of situations.

Credo,

Of course you're right, President Obama is not the reason Mubarak was deposed. The people of Egypt had enough and rose up against someone they felt was a tyrant. But these facts have little meaning to those who have a passionate hatred for President Obama so they invent ways to blame him for anything and everything. Just take a look at the signatures of certain posters.

The World Bank, The IMF and the EU have all declared that the Palestinian Territories are ready for statehood. At the end of the month, an overwhelming majority of nations will vote the same way at the UN. Yes, the US will use its special privileges to overrule the vote, but this is only a temporary setback on the road to justice.

Everyone of consequence (including the Israeli govt.)knows how this is going to play out in the long run, but the Israeli government is too belligerent and arrogant to admit it. Some here can stomp their feet and hold their breath til they're blue in the face but it won't change the reality that Palestinian statehood on the 1967 demarcation is inevitable.