EmptyHead

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The best looking and sexiest woman on the planet are French,,,

Maybe -- but those of us here in Thailand may just have to settle for the likes of this:

She is cute, but where was she when god was giving out thighs?

She does like you but that don't pay the bills , can you look after her financially ? if not she has little choice but to do what she is doing. As for Korea on average the make about 5000 U.S. P/M but as you said she is no suppose to work there.

Well, she does have a choice actually. She could get a regular job. I understand, she doesn't want to work 10 hours a day, 6 days a week, for just 7k a month when she could make 1-2k for an hour in Thailand and more in other countries.

I have heard the ol "she could get a regular job" thing so many times now its nauseating. Actually i often asked myself the question and came up with the same answer as you did.

But then i cant help but think to myself what would I do in the same situation?

...If born female in somewhere like Isaan, no money, no social security, no well-to-do family to offer help/support, no chance of getting good schooling/education. ect ect

The facts are, these very things that you lament are all part and parcel and the indirect reality of what attracted you here in the first place.

You left a country (presumably) with all the above boxes ticked. You come and live in a cheaper economy with money (i presume) already earnt/saved from the west, and have the hide to judge those that were born here and have no possible chance to do what you did or just up and leave for better pastures.

I guess you can call a spade a spade, but pretty arrogant attitude really

Most girls from Isaan aren't prostitutes, you know. Most of them come from the background you describe and choose not to be prostitutes nonetheless.

how are we supposed to give a view on a woman we have not met? give us her phone number and im sure a few members will pop over and sum her up for you....

Definitely the best way to find out.

Tell us where she works and what her name is and 10 of us will go over there on the hour after hour on the same day for oilys and see what the score really is.

It'll save years of wondering and eventually heartbreak.

Though, i fear i can't participate since she almost certainly doesn't live in the crappy little town where i live. Sigh.

She does like you but that don't pay the bills , can you look after her financially ? if not she has little choice but to do what she is doing. As for Korea on average the make about 5000 U.S. P/M but as you said she is no suppose to work there.

Well, she does have a choice actually. She could get a regular job. I understand, she doesn't want to work 10 hours a day, 6 days a week, for just 7k a month when she could make 1-2k for an hour in Thailand and more in other countries.

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Just have fun and don't take it too seriously. You too young to get serious, there are too many fish in the sea especially in Thiland

Yeah that's my problem, i'm getting very serious with it. I'm thinking about her a lot. finding it difficult to concentrate on my own life. Missing her a lot. I'm actually staying in her apartment right now as she let me stay there while she went to Korea. I was thinking of going to australia on a working holiday which might be better for me to take my mind off her a little bit.

Your obviously one of those young people that leads with his heart. I was much the same way at your age. I ended up with 3 wives over the years all ex's. Sometimes it is hard to let go and move on but it is something you should consider. I have had to do it numerous times. There are a lot of fine young ladies here but you cannot save them all. I have been with a young young girl now for 3 years now and laid it on the line at the very start and it has worked for me and her but then I am retired. Your 24 and just starting out in life and what you would do here in Thailand for a living must be considered. Map out a plan first. This girl looks like she is unsure of what she wants and is flighty to some degree. This can be a problem if a bigger fish comes along. The best of luck to you but do not let testosterone govern your life. Its a long hard road. Tread lightly.

You are so proud of yourself aren't you? Every chance you get you have to mention how young your girlfriend is, not matter what the thread is about.

As much as i am happy you managed to get a girl around 50 years younger than yourself, must we really have to hear about it from you every chance you get??

I prefer the dark strong meat.

Never mind about all this.

I hear Indonesia is trying to make it stricter as well. And we know Thailand is.

Well good luck to them. The top-tier schools will get it, if they don't have it already, but they will pay 100k baht (and more) a month.

It simply won't happen nationwide due to the money "going elsewhere".

My cousin is a qualified teacher in the UK. I said to her she may be able to get 100k in Thailand at a nice school with her qualifications. She didn't even think that was enough.

It ain't gonna happen. At ease gentlemen.

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You forgot already? There's more between her cleavage..ahhhh..thick gobs of it.. now you remember alt=giggle.gif>

Poor girl - not only does she have her photo all over the internet without her consent, she has an ugly wide flat nose that only farang will want and now subjected to crude sexual references. Surely there is a law against it.

What amazes me are the horrors of aging prostitutes hanging around lower Sukhumvit bars esp soi 4. With all the beautiful women in Thailand, I'd have thought that the TAT would sort this out. Seriosly, I played pool down there and although nice personalities, they were over the hill and no oil paintings at all. But I suppose a drunken Norwegian oil rig worker or Ozzie miner doesn't know the difference.

We are just not all as sophisticated as you.

Come on then, give us a laugh, post a picture of what you think qualifies as an attractive female.

Instead of sitting there with your pack of Tennent's Supers and a bottle of Buckfast making somewhat racist slurs about indigenous looking Thai women.

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Hmmm...it is a difficult one alright. I will address your three main points.

1.) Her meeting another guy and going on holiday with him is not an issue. Why would it be? She barely knew you.

2.) Her not telling you about it is not an issue either. When you date a girl you barely know, do you tell her about all your other dates recently? No, you don't cos you barely know her and its not her business.

3.) The issue here is her job.

I have been here long enough to know there is virtually no such thing as a massage shop that doesn't offer sexual services. Or, to put it more accurately, a massage shop that doesn't have a member of staff (or two) who aren't willing to offer sexual services. They all have staff who will give a happy ending. To what extent depends on the individual.

Here is a social experiment i advice you to conduct:

The best education you can give yourself here is this: get an oil massage everyday in the so called "normal massage shops". Don't go to the obvious brothels cos you know what you are gonna get. Go to the regular places. The places around where she works, which appear to be the same sort of establishment as she works in, preferably. And for heavens sake, don't act all shy and wear your underwear during the massage, cos then you probably won't be offered anything. If you aren't shy, they won't be. But, you must ask for an oil massage, otherwise you won't be offered anything.

But it could be anywhere, in any part of the country. If you ask for an oil massage, more often than not you will be offered extras (to one extent or another). It could be a regular looking place and the masseuse could be an innocent seeming 60 year-old woman, it's still highly likely you will get a happy ending.

If you do this, you will learn a lot about her line of work. It won't tell you about her specifically, but it will give you a lot of insight. Trust me.

P.S. I would like to note, that i am not suggesting you get involved in prostitution. It would be against forum rules for me to suggest that here. I am suggesting you become a customer at the type of places where she works and see what goes on for yourself. And if you are offered anything extra, you may decline, of course. You say you are 90% sure, but i think if you take my advice for a few weeks, you will be down to less than 5% sure.

Good advice once you have done 10 straight looking massage places and had an oil massage you will very quickly discover the what goes on. Ploy one is the nudge this is when she keeps nudging the tool as she works until it has the desired effect. Ploy two is she manhandles your equipment out the way in slow motion often with some sort of compliment. Ploy three used when one and two tail, the direct approach "you want happy how much you pay". Yes you can find some that do not earn the extra by giving extra but you just might find them hard to find. Got to say I love having an oil massage with out the bells on and I finally found a little lady very close to where I lived and she charged 100B an hour and I could totally relax and enjoy being taken care of. Wish I could get one here in the UK my wife is good at it for about 10 minutes and then complains that she can't do more. Roll on summer holidays when I can once again get my massage.

Just be careful you don't turn into a sex addict. That is not pretty. Your stints back in the UK should help prevent that process.

Tayto's original flavour (cheese and onion). Gotta love the Irish.

And we complain they lack critical thinking skills.

They seem to have a good grasp of irony too.

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That is Halal method

Halal pork??

I actually laughed out loud, perhaps for the first time in 2015. Thank you.

Halal method..comment of the year so far, i think.

Brannigan's do beat McCoy's.

I agree too. Look at the Adam's apple area.

Greenjob...what the hell is a black box?

Why not go out and meet lots of other women. It'll do your self-esteem a lot of good. Thailand must be the easiest place in the world for you to cure your confidence issues. The women here are very relaxed about talking to random people and going on dates, unlike western women.

Don't worry about the long-game she may be trying to play. It won't work since you don't have any money to play for. She would be a very dumb player in that case. Though she may just be keeping you on the back burner for the hell of it.

How will your self-esteem be if she IS just after you money and you fell for it? Why not just go out and have fun and boost you confidence with lots of different women? It'll be better for your mental health.

Keep her on the back burner and see how it works out over time. She has done nothing to deserve you throwing yourself at her and the best way to get a woman is NOT to do that anyway. She will respect you more.

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the gik . behave yourselves boys.

Ladyboy.

Yes, it doesn't look good.

Why not play the field a little and get some perspective. That's what she seems to be doing, so don't feel bad about it.

You should put all your eggs in one basket. I wish someone told me that when i first came here.

Enjoy yourself for a few years while dating her casually. Sooner or later you will understand what she is like very well.

The driver is always at fault in Thailand. I expect that would be the case if someone threw muddy water on your windscreen as well. I don't think you can sue someone for throwing water during Songkran.

And, if an accident occurs between a motorbike and a car, it is always the driver's fault not the rider's.

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I met these girls last night, in Thailand, not Touristland.......find one like this in Euro, America or OZ!

Guess I have been here too long..farang women all look like monsters to me now...too tall, too fat, big pointed noses and they act like men!

No Thank you..

I am very happy with THai women!

You can't be serious - those are extreme "dtung beung" - certainly not beautiful unless you are an Isarn farmer.

Yes Nearman, we know you love showing off your knowledge of Thai, but please would you enlighten the rest of us as to what "dtung beung" means exactly?

And i must be an Issan farmer cos they look nice to me. What's wrong with them exactly?

I am not showing off Egghead. Anyone who has lived in Isarn for a while knows what it means.

Usually, newcomers find these women attractive as they are exotic or different but the longer you live in Thailand your perception of them changes.

If you don't know Isarn, "dung maeb" is similar.

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OK, well, since you are apparently unable to give a translation, i asked my girlfriend. So, its something to do with "flat nose", right?

Well, i may not have been here as long as you, but after 6 years, i still like my GF's flat nose and all the other girls' flat noses, lol.

I have never understood the pointy nose thing, and even less so when a westerner starts thinking like a Thai in that respect.

And please tell, how does your perception of them change over time?

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I met these girls last night, in Thailand, not Touristland.......find one like this in Euro, America or OZ!

Guess I have been here too long..farang women all look like monsters to me now...too tall, too fat, big pointed noses and they act like men!

No Thank you..

I am very happy with THai women!

You can't be serious - those are extreme "dtung beung" - certainly not beautiful unless you are an Isarn farmer.

Yes Nearman, we know you love showing off your knowledge of Thai, but please would you enlighten the rest of us as to what "dtung beung" means exactly?

And i must be an Issan farmer cos they look nice to me. What's wrong with them exactly?

Yeah, gotta love a good cuppa!

Well, that IS a challenging issue.. in Switzerland, the Swiss Office for Civil Status has issued a recommendation back in March 2012 that says - while it is still the decision of a court to decide about a gender change request - it should NOT anymore be based on SRS, HRT or sterilization, but "only" on the will and desire (and proof) of a person to live the "other" genders life, This recommendation is mainly based on the human right of bodily integrity. The Swiss Office thinks that it violates this human right when a person is required and "order" by a court to have SRS, HRT or sterilization in order to change the gender.

Good for the Swiss!

I don't know about the medical details of having a sex change.... but surely it does not include installing a womb etc.!

I suspect objections on the grounds given by Swiss1960 and Water Buffalo are not reality-based.

But if these things should happen, then (and not now) is the time to deal with them. If you worry about all the possible (not probable) problems some action may cause, you will never do anything.

I don't think WaterBuffalo was objecting. I think he was trying to say that sterilization shouldn't be mandatory for changing gender status, while pointing out that our sex (physical difference) and gender (social difference) are not the same thing.

If she was mentally ill, shouldn't she have been sent to a hospital rather than the executioner?