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1 hour ago, camo007 said:

I lived in the same building. I know them for over 20 years. Retired in Thailand at least 30+ years ago.

Interesting but your post just makes me have more questions about the original post. It states they retired to Thailand last year "The couple retired to Thailand in March last year and had stamps so they could stay until May 22nd of this year.

1 hour ago, camo007 said:

The landlord at Esmerelda Apartments tried to assist and that's why they stayed so long but not knowing how the system worked in the UK could not get the pensions sent to Thailand. The landlord of that building is very good and I think the fact they let them stay while trying to sort things out for them was amazing. 

The post also suggests that the landlord had been reporting them and trying to evict them for a long time so that doesn't add up either. Eventually dumping their belongings in the street.

You say he was waiting for them to get their pension but how is a pension going to fund a 50-100k apartment in Sathorn?

The more I hear about this story to more questions I have ????

8 minutes ago, RobMuir said:

The Thai cops take Korean won, US dollars, any currency.

Are you suggesting that a foreigner could murder a Thai and be out in less than 3? 

I highly doubt that. The Thai that murdered the guy I'm talking about is not rich either. 

13 hours ago, smedly said:

This guy stayed in Pattaya in my condo building before, I remember this story back then

When was this? I have a feeling this guy didn't do very long inside.

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Kim was found to have been sentenced to 2 years 11 months in Thailand for possession and dealing in meth. 

Clever wording says he was sentenced to 2 years an 11 months but it doesn't say how long he served.  I know a Thai guy that murdered a foreigner got life and was out in less than 3. I would be very surprised if this guy did 6 months.

It's amazing what difference being Asian can make isn't it? if this guy were western they would throw away the key.

1 minute ago, Rookiescot said:

 

This is the thing I dont get. If these people were, for whatever reason, unable to pay their rent why did they not downsize to a rent they could afford?

The article appears scant on detail other than the "Farrang not pay gets thrown out the country good" which plays perfectly into the hands of those who have a certain agenda.

Then the post is buffed with anecdotal stories from landlords (not that they are untrue) who have had bad tenants. But these are hardly relevant to a story in which we have little detail.

Yeh there's something not right in this story:

1. Nationalities withheld (this is highly unusual) usually they jump on the chance to shame western countries.

2.  Luxury condo block owner in Sathorn only rents to European / Americans

(something about that statement seems very odd)

3. The immigration thing being on a 21 day overstay (unusually short overstay to send the boys after them)

4. Elderly tenant gets injured at a time when the block owner just happened to be there to take him to the hospital.

Seems fishy to the point of anti western propaganda levels.

16 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Always worry with articles like this that we see one side of the story and not the other.

Now dont get me wrong. It could very well be that they simply ran out of money for whatever reason and failed to meet their obligations.

Or there may have been a reason they were withholding their rent money.

I agree, people here are far too fast to condemn their fellow expats this is where we have it all wrong and Thai people have it right the Thai's stick together and help each other out, defend their own people. Meanwhile most expats choose to flame each other before getting any of the facts.

I think of it like a kind of crab mentality, as if they feel like they are morally above others and somehow special (or will be if and when they get all the other foreigners leave) and somehow they will be recognised for pandering to the Thai people and honoured deity by the Thai's ???? the one good farrang in Thailand.

How do we know what really happened here? I mean for all we know they could have paid cash for a year upfront and the owner decided to kick them out. We just don't know do we?

46 minutes ago, desert dueller said:

These two guys - no ladies involved here - had been in Thailand as retirees for over 20 years. They eventually ran out of money and couldn't do the 800k option. The debt to their lessor was around 600k baht, so nowhere near the one million reported. However, they also borrowed extensively from local friends, without paying anything back. They are both Caucasian, and as British as they come. They have since departed.

Source? 

1 hour ago, ukrules said:

Owing some rent is merely a civil matter, surely there's come procedure to evict with the backing of the court?

It would seem the procedure the owner has chosen in this situation involved a bump on the head and a hospital visit for the elderly people involved shortly followed by their belongings being discarded in the parking lot.

As said before this story doesn't add up that is why I am sceptical about the whole situation.

10 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

A special thanks to our hero, Sa-mart BeEm.

Sa-mart BeEm is just like kit from knightrider they just replaced "hello micheal" with "farrang lie" ????

Just now, from the home of CC said:

these low lifes give all of us here a bad name, that's just the reality of it. You defending their incredibly selfish actions and criminal behavior actually justifies the Thais that will stereotype foreigners over this.  

As I was saying... cough

2 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

the mental state is alcoholism and it's rampant among foreigners..

and locals alike

2 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

these two probably burned all bridges with family or friends..

speculation?

1 minute ago, from the home of CC said:

that they were better than Thai people..

So you know what people are thinking as well? amazing

2 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

I've just looked at the photo again, they look like two blokes to me, as for couple it could be the in the translation, I don't know I don't speak, read or write Thai and I haven't seen a Thai language to get some one to confirm what it says.

It's hard to tell if it is a women admittedly but I think it is a woman, a few things make me think this:

1. long hair

2. feminine frame

3. described as in a couple

4. how many old boys live together in expensive condo's here?

5. Even though it could be a surname the OP describes one of them as only being known as Rose which while it could be a surname would be odd to be known by if you are a man. 

6 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:

 

Read the article. The clue is there.

They may have intended to pay but been forced into hard times by the pandemic, you cannot tell us what their intention was or was not.

7 minutes ago, Excel said:

Now don't get me wrong I perfectly understand why you did it, it was a convenient option and as you admit you were guilty of naivety. However, naivety  does not escape the fact that by being so you broke the law. Luckily things worked out ok for you but for those two, which the topic is about, there appears to be some oddities so please don't say they are scum until we know the facts. It could just be at their age they believed people and were similar to yourself, naïve who got caught out with respect to their overstay of 21 days, would you like to be labelled the same due to your own naivety ?

100% agree with you this is my point exactly. The poster knew he was skirting the law and got caught claiming ignorance is no defence. 

You would think people that have been in scrapes would have more understanding than those that have not but in this case the poster seems to have the familiar holier than thou attitude despite skirting the laws here.

10 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

Not if the 2 names given in the OP are surnames, Rees and Rose are fairly common surnames in English speaking countries.

You have a point but it still doesn't explain why the one on the left in the picture appears to be a women and they are described as a couple.

Just now, KarenBravo said:

 

These people had no intention of paying the landlord

How do you know what their intention was? are you a clairvoyant ?

Just now, KarenBravo said:

 

Oh right.....I broke the law and immigration are totally blameless. Got it.

In this country it pays to know the law how well do you think that statement would go in front of a Thai judge?

It is your job to know what the law is and not break it. I mean come on you didn't think there was anything sus about your passport going off without you somewhere? I guess you don't follow your own government advice let alone Thai law.

2 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:

Therefore, no, I don't consider I broke any rules intentionally, even if guilty of naivety.

You broke the law regardless, someone with the same mentality as you would have every right to call you scum by your own standards.

I'm not saying you are scum but I am saying you should think twice before calling others such, after all as you just admitted yourself that you yourself ended up breaking the law (albeit unwittingly) sometimes people just get caught out by circumstance but keep in mind it could be you that people are calling scum on here one day.

I hope you get my point.

2 minutes ago, Wozzit said:

Where did you pick up the nugget? More b/s. Their names as reported are Rose and Rees. They are described initially as two men. 

They are described as two foreign pensioners according to the post, also Rose is a women's name.  Can you show me where they are described as two men? source? 

2 hours ago, KarenBravo said:

 

Nope. I was in IDC in 2002.

I thought foreign rule breakers are "scum" (not my words, yours)

What makes you any different? if you ended up in IDC yourself?

1 hour ago, Eindhoven said:

The question is...why didn't these two men

1 hour ago, Wozzit said:

I happen to know a few of the facts about this case from a friend who seems to know the 2 men.. T

How many men do you two know called Rose and are described as a couple? 

3 hours ago, rcuthbert said:

Sounds like a couple of sneaky junkies.

Yeh they look like junkies in their perfectly ironed slacks and shirts.

What planet do you live on where well dressed elderly people inject hard drugs?????

5 hours ago, KarenBravo said:

Just goes to prove that once scum, always scum.

Since no nationality was provided are you tarring the entire elderly European and American community in your statement? including yourself? Unless perhaps you are not western? ???? that is a very broad statement.