DLock

This was tragic 5,499 murders ago.

Why does anyone expect anything different or for the killing to stop, when no one is doing anything meaningful to stop this.

The world is numb and bored with this story. Thailand has no clue nor the people to handle this and the terrorists know this and must resort to bigger and more brutal killings for attention.

With Yingluck now saying she will handle it personally, do you really think things will get better...or worse?

It will only get worse.

Very rude drinking company you had! Hope you said thank you and walked away!

Not all do, i think. But a lot of tourists are prejudiced, sadly.

I did make an exit about 10 minutes later. I joked that I hoped that my wife was never a bar prostitute thinking what an incredible xxxx the guy was.

How would others respond?

I would have punched him in the face.

Without a doubt that's what I would have done.

Neeranam, but I think his comment says more about him than anything.

It's sad that many guys never venture much farther than the bar areas, so their limited views on Thailand and it's women has not evolved beyond the women they encounter and sometimes marry.

OP, you broke the 3 unwritten rules.

Never mention any details about your wife, and never criticize Bargirls or the fools that marry them.

The reasons are obvious. The response will be swift.

...but Yingluck's campaign promise was that the maximum BTS fare would be 20 baht.

I thought the rice pledging scheme wold help subsidize this and the tablets for every child.

You mean she lied?

If the monkey really bit a kid, it would do serious damage.

The locals would kill it without hesitation.

Never happened.

Take her to a swingers party. Tell her since she likes banging other guys, she can knock it out with as many of the guys she wants. Leave her at the party and change your mobile number. Never look back. She did three guys the same week and you're asking for advice? Seriously!? Can we say 'Ho'? Sent from my PC36100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

...Actually, she probably did at least 4 guys that week.

"So, she stays at my place for a week, then moves in with her police brother..."

Hey Slapnuts...it isn't her brother.

But I can tell by your maturity and common sense that you used protection, so thankfully we don't have to worry about that.

Truly stunning.

Who's that dolly with the fiddle? She's worth getting a divorce over....

Except she's 15 years old...and looks it.

Issues.

Don't worry.

In 6 months, you will be declared National Disaster zones for flooding.

If the Government could somehow connect the dots and solve both problems at once.

But I sense that may be asking for too much...

There seem to be a lot of Inspector Clouseaus on Thai Visa.

Inspecteur Clouseau reporting for dutee!

- Inspector.. you solved the case?

I did indeed! All ze clueuesz are right in front of you.

- Clues?

Oui. First, le amount: 5675 Baths. It is no coïncidence that zis is made up from 3 bières x 3 personnes x 75 Baths = 675 Baths, plus an extra sum of 5000 Baths.

- 5000 Baht.. for what?

Les Damaaaizjs Cato, Damaaizjezjes.

- Damages? What Damages?

Zis we do not yet kneuw. But it zeems highly plauseeble zat zree drunk Ozzies cauzed some damaaaizjs for which the bar chargjzed 5000 Baths. Upon seeing the damaaaizj occur, they notified le police, expecting treuble. Zis is why police were alrezy zere when ze Ozzies went to pay ze bill.

-But.. why didn't they just sort things out, and were taken to the police station and not to an ATM?

Skill de Communicaçion, Cato. Or, shall we say, lack zereof. Look at page 1.. Zis is him communicating in his native tonggue, while sober. Imagine that the night befeur, with Siamese bar people and police.. Elémentaire, Cato, élémentaire..

My Spidey senses were tingling that it was something like this.

He seemed to have a grudge for the French Owner for some reason.

When confronted with simple questions, he got quite agitated and aggressive, a sure sign that there is more to the story that he was hiding.

This makes sense with the Police being present and the arbitrary number that the Bar can justifiably pull out of the air and demand payment - 5000 baht.

Whatever they broke, likely did not cost anywhere near 5000 baht, but judging by his attitude, they charged that much because they could. Hence the scam.

His disappearance and failure to explain further speaks volumes that it never happened the way he explained.

For what it's worth, in my dictionary, "judgment" has only one 'e'.

Only if you have been uneducated by Microsoft in "lazy (American) English", dropping many letters such as double l's, u etc. Microsoft through Windows and Office has been totally responsible for the misspelling of the English language globally. A tragedy in my opinion.

Here's a handy tip.

You can change the Dictionary in Microsoft products to that of other countries and avoid the tragedy.

How about answering some of the questions to give your story some credibility.

What was on you bill?

What were you actually charged for?

What did the Owner tell the Police you did not pay?

Simple questions.

If only the ICJ was more like a Thai Land Office - where a thick brown envelope could solve all these problems.

Don't you have experienced the same on Soi 6 and elsewhere, hookers uninvited fondling your ass and balls, sometimes on the street in broad daylight? More often than not females or trannies you wouldn't touch wich a bargepole, and ten times worse if you as a straight male got lost in a gay district? Did you file complaints, or started rants about Thais?

Here's a clue.

Stay out of Soi 6.

You are not convincing anyone that you don't like it.

How do you think the Chinese would feel if we made steaks and hamburgers out of the Giant Panda meat and made floor rugs from its hide, to the point it was on the brink of extinction?

Actually, having spent a lot of time in China...I dont think they would really care.

We are all part of a social experiment.

There are too many posts of a similar nature, style and attitude to be coincidence. In fact 2 of the Posters registered within a week or so of each other. They know who they are.

All the posts are controversial and unlikely...and even if true no one would ever post and then continue to support their point. The characters portrayed are sad people in sad situations. There is nothing positive or postworthy in their claims. They do not exist. Such a person would never post. There is nothing to gain.

I think the Poster wants to see how people react to these scenarios and who supports them.

Perhaps not a Troll per se, but certainly someone that likes to get reactions and enjoys the attention...perhaps as sad as the characters he portrays.

Your first problem is your lawyer is giving you bad advice and just wants to take the easy way out. Who is your lawyer?

If you are legally sound, then what do you believe the Owner can do? You have not addressed if you are worried about physical threats or legal threats or just feeling intimidated? Is the land remote or in a built up secure area?

If you are legally sound and you have grounds to go legal, then it sounds like its time to go on the offense against Somchai.

That is a huge feat and I hope they finish and get that audience with The King.

I can't imagine running that far every single day for 21 days in this heat. Hope they have good running shoes and a good crew to help them make it to the end.

Good Luck to the guys. It will be an awesome achievement.

DLock, on 12 Apr 2013 - 15:59, said:

5% per month is not unusual.

Extortionate, but not unusual.

Don't get involved. This is very normal for Thai's...and don't even consider paying it back on her behalf.

Pay it back on her behalf if you want - why not?

We only know a fraction of the story, so saying pay it off or not pay it off is irrelevant.

The OP has disappeared so I guess we will never know.

But giving Thai's the easy way out is like giving them approval to do it again. They don't learn.

and I do think land ownership is an essentially flawed idea. Really? And how do you feel about gravity?

Gravity isn't a physical object and wasn't originally acquired by force of arms.

All land ownership was. (Or as some may put it property is theft)

True -- but your odds of changing them are just about the same.

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I'm sure the British elite of the early 1700's and the slaveowners of the early 1800's felt the same way about what actually transpired in the US wrt principles of democracy for colonials and the end of (that particular form of) slavery within a century of each respectively.

Never say never, humankind continues to evolve and IMO things have been greatly accelerating lately. . .

Seriously...just get on a plane and stop all this jibber jabber nonsense.

You have shown yourself to be unworthy of being in Thailand and contributing to society.

Go back to whence you came. I'm sure your family miss you.

You've raise a key issue here - others have recently posted that the landlord does in fact not have the ability to block my leaving the country. Obviously that is at the heart of my OP, exactly the kind of issue I need to nail down in planning my next moves, so clarity on this from those who actually have hard knowledge of this would be most appreciated.

All the rest is pretty extraneous waffling isn't it. . .

I think you have to consider this.

If a landlord could block you leaving the country with a simple phone call, everyone with a grudge would be playing this card.

Dumped gfs, divorced wives, people you has a dispute with down the local bar. "Excuse me Mr. Thai police, I'm a landlord and this guy owes me money"

Blocking someone from leaving the country with a simple phone call or police report from any Thai just isn't a reasonable premise.

They can't do it, even if a legit claim, you would need a court order or warrant issued first.

Anyone with valid contracts that have been breached that are translated into Thai and filed by a competent lawyer with Immigration can bar someone leaving the country. It doesn't mean they are arrested. It just means that there is just cause to stop them leaving and respond to the charges.

We are not all living in your world of "Dumped gfs, divorced wives, people you has a dispute with down the local bar".

This is the real world. Think smart.

No shark would loan that amount, unsecured.

Correct.

This amount is probably on a land title (maybe 50% of the value) or a car...and the Loanshark is holding the Title or Bluebook.

She just needed the loan quickly, probably because she was getting squeezed by a gambling debt.

Oh, how I wish I was a Newbie again. Life was much simpler then.