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1 minute ago, IvorBiggun2 said:
If Pit Bull breeds are dangerous then why are they so popular around the world?
They should not be allowed in countries like Thailand and Cambodia where they are status symbols owned by people without a clue how to train, socialise or house the animals. Countries where there are no consequences in the event the dog maims or kills people, such as in this instance.
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13 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:Well you tell that to the monks in many of the pagodas who need to be convinced that the dogs in their care need neutering. Takes time to persuade many of them.
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7 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:You don't know much about Buddhists do you?
Yes I do!!! When I lived in Thailand, I had 4 rabbits given to me by a departing foreigner. The little boy from next door picked one up by its back legs and dislocated them. The vet I took it to refused to euthanise it and figured it could happily slither around like a snail. Buddhism was the excuse for not doing the humane thing. A street dog got into the yard and took care of the problem. I am well aware of the Buddhist attitude to euthanasia but cannot believe it would apply in the circumstances of this incident. Similarly Buddhists are against neutering dogs but are happy to dump unwanted puppies and kittens in pagodas. Buddhism in my experience has severe limitations as a viable way of life.
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5 hours ago, JoePai said:They need putting down - NOW !
It's unbelievable that anyone is even contemplating keeping the three of them alive! I am a dog lover but once a dog has killed, it's hard to think of any reason why they should be kept alive. The article says a lot about Thai people - no one helped, 'great neighbour who will pay for funeral expenses, didn't investigate the screams because the victim had pain from health issues etc. Just sit in your cocoon of safety and ignorance and let violence erupt around you. They were good dogs - 'first time they have killed anyone (won't be the last time). Outrageous stuff.
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24 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:
And yet Dan Andrews got voted back in.... Victorians have short memories ?
Australians and particularly Victorians value safety over just about anything else. Anyone with children probably saw Andrew's actions as protecting their family despite the wealth of information suggesting that children were barely at risk. On the other hand, a large number of Victorians sold their homes and moved north to warmer pastures, never to return. Many single people living alone had a vastly different experience and perspective of lockdown. Like Trump (though nothing like Trump in ideology) he divides people. Plus the opposition state Liberals are also incompetent.
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If you had been stuck in Melbourne Australia as I was in the longest lockdown in history, you wouldn't have been travelling around taking advantage of cheap hotel prices etc. The 5km limit on travel plus the 8pm curfew made life frustrating and lonely. An absurd travel limit can make all the difference to the joy of quiet nights and deserted streets.
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1 hour ago, connda said:
It never ends. Pit Bulls, Dobermans and German Shepherds all need training as well as an owner(s) who can control the dog. I've been threatened by everyone of those breeds in the owners home (all in the US) after the owner assured me that their dog was just super friendly and wouldn't hurt a fly.
Show weakness and you've got a problem. You never put yourself in a submissive posture with any of those dogs. I don't deal with them any more. Just don't put yourself in the position to be attacked.
Most of us can show enough dominance to these dogs to make them back off. Who do they prey on? Anyone showing weakness: elderly, young, disabled. Look at who got attacked here? Surprised?
I've been attacked by soi dogs here in Thailand. I've made everyone of them back off.
I've known too many people who have these breeds of dogs. "Oh Killer, Fang, and Shredder are just super friendly and wouldn't hurt a fly." That's all BS. These people have no control over their animals. What's worse? Is their a civil court in Thailand (with a jury) who would award damages for a dog attack? In the US there is. Thailand. "Oh, Killer bite you? Here's 3,000 THB. <Wai> Everything is all good now, mai?"
No, there isn't a court system that will administer significant damages.. (Look at Vorayuth Yoovidhya 'compensation for killing a police officer. What an elitist joke). When Fang bites, Shredder shreds, and Killer kills - a few thousand THB is suppose to paper over an lifetime of damage. However, if you're a foreigner and you inadvertently touch a Thai HiSo woman? They need hundreds of thousands or millions in compensation.
Bottom line:
Don't put yourself or your kids or your grandparents in harms way.
"How would you know Mr. Smarty Pant "Expert."
I've got eight dogs. A couple of them are dangerous, which is why we have them. A couple more I don't trust with anyone inside the fence unless my wife or I am around. But they are fenced and they are territorial. We have a series of fences. Just don't be in the wrong fence uninvited. We are VERY upfront with people about that. The outside perimeter is always locked. We are REALLY upfront with people about that. If we let you in - don't wander. There is no - "Ohhhhh Skippy is just a sweetheart and wouldn't hurt a fly." Nope - Skippy and her partner will do damage. Don't wander!
Don't have dogs you can not control, especially those breeds. And don't be ignorant. And if your dog attacks anyone who was invited on to your property? Control your dogs and take responsibility if things go south.Can't see the point of keeping dogs that are kept outside and not inside the home. They are supposed to be pets that interact with people, sit on the couch with you and sleep on your bed. Perhaps you live in a very dangerous area and feel the need to keep guard dogs. But I suppose your dogs have a more comfortable life than those outside the perimeter of your property.
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1 hour ago, Phnom Penh Trader said:Are you not aware that you are living in a Buddhist country?
That's probably the only reason why authorities have not stepped in and put the dog down. In most other countries, the dog would be removed from the home and euthanised. I love dogs but a pit bull with a history of aggression against people it should love should not be allowed to live. Don't understand why pit bull and huskies are so favoured in SEA. People are not prepared to do the necessary training to safely raise a dog, and caging them is not going to help the situation at all.
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I just hope someone is going to care for his two dogs. I can imagine his wife will do the Thai thing and throw the animals out now that he is gone and the animals loom as a bit of a burden.
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7 minutes ago, billsmart said:
This, of course, is inexcusable, but IMO of living in Thailand for over 20 years, I've seen almost NO ONE give right-a-way to vehicles with their emergency lights on and sirens blaring. I, as I was taught, immediately turn on my emergency blinkers and pull over the side, either side, to let the emergency vehicle pass. When I do that, I am usually honked at by the other Thai drivers and they immediately take advantage of the situation to pass me on the road! ????
What are your experiences in situations like this on the highways?If true, it doesn't say much for the morality or humanity of the locals.
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35 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:
He's an untouchable, unrepentant policeman, get over it
The problem with everyone 'getting over it' is that the perpetrators get away with it.
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14 minutes ago, Jonathan Swift said:
At least they published his name, if nothing else he is publicly humiliated
They should also have published his address, mobile number and Facebook page. His superior should also have condemned this guy in public.
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1 minute ago, Snig27 said:
You really think a) these kids are paying the prices charged by the legal outlets?, and b) this plant was not widely and easily available everywhere before the decriminalisation?
Kids have been able to get their hands on this without issue since forever.
Think about it. It's not rocket science.
I just assumed that the kids had a spare 700 baht and bought a gram from a Pattaya dispensary. But seriously no street kid would be bothered with marijuana if glue, which provides far more comfort as a time killer and anesthetiser, was available.
As if the average Thai gives a damn about the plight of homeless children or is interested in seeking a genuine solution to the uncertainty and boredom these kids probably endure every day of their lives.
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Back in the 90s when I lived in Thailand, lots of young street kids used heroin, injected and smoked. Two kids are caught smoking cannabis and some react like it's all the rage among Thailand's children. Looking at the photo, my major concern is for the boys' little dog. I hoped it wasn't just left to fend for itself when the cops took the boys to the children's home (from where they are sure to escape once they realise how poorly resourced these places are in Thailand).
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8 hours ago, kennw said:
Without proof pot supporters are jumping on the excuse that this was a set up. Maybe they should just acknowledge pot is another drug that should not be encouraged like all drugs including alcohol. So this government places restrictions on the hours that alcohol can be sold why not do the same for pot. Dont get me wrong I enjoy a beer or two, but the whole pot thing smacks of tourism promotion and some behind the scene commercial benefit of certain connected individuals. Good luck with promoting Thailand as a great family holiday venue.
You lost me at 'Dont get me wrong I enjoy a beer or two'.
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56 minutes ago, JimGant said:The ordinary farang in Thailand should not perceive that this episode has anything to do with them. The wealthy in all countries in the world get a leg up over the less well-to-do, whether this is because they can afford better lawyers -- or the system affords them an outright bribe situation, as this case represents. Absolutely nothing that should alarm the ordinary farang in Thailand.
In fact, that corruption is so naked, as this episode represents, actually shows the other side of the coin, namely, a bribe can smooth over some bureaucratic road bumps, like certain Immigration requirements. And everyone can end happily: You get the extension you need; the agent gets a fat fee; and the Imm officer gets part of that fee, so that he's now getting paid what he should be -- and the Thai taxpayer is NOT funding that pay raise. What's so bad about this form of corruption......
Why do you still live here, if they "inevitably" will try and do you over? Paranoia is a terrible disease to live with.
Using this example as a warning to farang visitors *against* Thailand is baloney. Corruption has been with Asia for eons. It probably will never ever affect you here in Thailand -- and if it does, as pointed out, might be in your favor.
No, corruption should not be on any visitor's radar. But, being much less likely to be mugged in the streets of a Thai city, verses the streets of Chicago or Wash DC -- might be a topic of discussion for future visitors/retirees.
Corruption in Thailand will never go away. It's the way things have been done for ages -- and it greases more skids than not. Judging it by Western standards is a non starter.
Perhaps you don't care about the innocent policeman dragged hundreds of meters to his death under the car. Having had a Thai mate recently serve 9 years in jail for a far lesser crime than this animal committed, I tend to react somewhat unfavourably to cases such as this in which the criminal escapes punishment due to systemic corruption that goes right to the top in Thai politics and judicial system. 'Judging it by Western standards is a non starter' ignores the fact that this is not about West versus East but rather morality and giving a damn about the plight of the little man versus the rich who never have to face the consequences of their actions. Some foreigners just throw away their moral compass once they have spent a few years living in Thailand.
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Why bother disciplining this guy and others when the red bull heir wanders the world untouched. I doubt that too many Thai people are even concerned about this miscarriage of justice. I am sure most people accept his preferential treatment as just par for the course in Thailand. Thailand all too often fails to take a moral position on important issues, including this case and the invasion of the Ukraine.
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Just now, bradiston said:
Link?
He said 'probably' so I don't think you'll be getting that link you're after.
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3 hours ago, RandiRona said:“Pattaya police suggested the victim to get a good recovery and come to them if she intended to press legal action against her boyfriend. Police did not immediately press charges on their own.”
“He was reportedly aggressive as he kept shouting, broke his own property, and proclaimed nonchalantly in English that he was backed up by police,”
He wasn’t lying. What a honest truthful Falangs!! Pattaya deserves more people like him… Hats off to you Sir!!!
I see a big brown envelope exchanging hands.
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2 minutes ago, Nicholas Paul KNIGHT said:Amazing a LAW and still they cannot spell LICENCE corectly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You misspelt 'correctly'.
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1 hour ago, DJ54 said:
It wasn’t a snub… get over it. I avoid shaking hands better safe than sorry…
Right. Good for you. Except that Xi was fine with shaking everyone else's hand.
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1 hour ago, mberbae said:
It seems likely China wanted something from Thailand and
Prayuth did not play along. Bravo to Prayuth.
Covid had nothing to do with it.
I am sure you give Prayuth far far more credit than he deserves.
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I wouldn't shake hands with someone who had just met Hun Sen.
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40 minutes ago, allanos said:Not victim blaming, but how unfair is it to put such overwhelming
temptation in front of a couple of poor persons earning peanuts?
It seems iniquitous to me!
That's not fair. an hotel employee has to be a trusted soul, someone to who you can leave your room and its contents without fear of theft. My proviso is that money and valuables should be locked away if possible or otherwise secreted. Temptation is a given - how it's coped with is the measure of the trustworthiness of the employee.
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Thai man dead, had "genitals ripped apart" in Pit Bull attack - owner says he's had enough of his pets
in Isaan News
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I wasn't answering your question. I care for dogs in semi retirement to augment my income, and was in a dog park today with a couple of small dogs where there was a really sweet natured pit bull/staffy cross whose owners have trained her to do 'party tricks' but also been very concerned to adequately socialise the animal. I am always a little concerned with dogs in my care around pit bulls and staffies, but this dog gave no indication of aggression towards people or animals.
When I was teaching some years back in a socio-economically depressed area, many of my students had pit bulls at home which were used in pig hunting. Sometimes when I see a pit bull with a heavily muscled owner I figure the owner wants a dog that mirrors his own personality. In Australia, the majority of pit bull owners are responsible people. To be honest, I am not sure why the breed is so popular. Hopefully it's not because people want a pet want a pet that complements their personality or to be used as a guard dog. I just don't think they are appropriate in country's that allow dangerous animals to live once they have killed or maimed, even if the owner is a nice bloke willing to pay for victims' funerals.