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4 hours ago, polpott said:
Its normal in Thailand for bikes. Thais have their own unwritten rules of the road. A Thai wouldn't even blink at the Thai riders actions. If you want to live a happy life in Thailand, neither should you.
You are keen to suggest that people just have to adjust their driving expectations to take into account Thai rider's actions. But your comment ignores the reality that Thailand has the 2nd highest number of road fatalities in the world, and they only count those who die at the scene of the accident.
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1 hour ago, jaiyen said:
What about Perth Australia ? It has turned out to be the safest city in the world, If not very close to the top. Planes would definitely be full and a much better class of tourist with money to spend. But as for all the paperwork and compulsory 2 weeks in hotel lockdown, I bet nobody would go.
What about any of the other Australian states!
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5 hours ago, jaiyen said:Honestly, no tourists are going or want to go, The only people trying to get back are those that need to, e.g. for family, business or they live there. Much nicer back here in Western Australia with our zero level of coronavirus.
No mention obviously of your ridiculously over the top border closure to all other states even though Covid 19 is all but eliminated countrywide. The attitudes of Queensland and WA to opening up the country have dissuaded me from ever voting for a Labour government again at state or federal level. If Thailand follows WA's example it will never again open up its borders to tourism.
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Reading threads like this convinces me that I never again want to make Thailand my home. I smoked for 40 years and quit in 2011, but I have never developed the kind of intolerance of smokers and smoking expressed by so many people here. I lived in Thailand for a number of years, and a large part of the country's appeal was its lack of regulations compared to western countries, particularly my home country Australia.
Now it seems the Thais are actually trying to oudo their western counterparts with the crackdown on alcohol and cigarettes. Last year I stayed in a B&B in the Lumpini apartment city in Rangsit and could not buy alcohol at the 2 7/11 stores in the complex because alcohol sales were banned.. Similarly, you could not smoke in the apartment complex, not in your own apartment, your balcony or the vast grass spaces between the buildings. Anyone living in an apartment in Australia would not be confronted with such ridiculously puritanical restrictions.
To all those expats who want condos to ban smoking even for owner occupiers, may I suggest you return to your home countries if you want to have life regulated by legislation to the point where people who wish to smoke or drink in their own homes are forbidden to do so. For God's sake get a life and allow others to have one too! A bit of stray smoke is not going to do you any harm.
Thankfully there are still countries like Cambodia which have far less draconian rules and regulations than Thailand. The same people whinging about a bit of stray smoke are quite happy to risk their lives on roads which have the 2nd highest death rate in the world. What a bunch of wowsers so many modern expats have become!
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Obviously only the select groups currently allowed in can take advantage of these conditions?
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3 hours ago, Swimfan said:
Yes but the New Zealanders have to go into quarantine when they arrive home
Are you sure? First I have heard of it, but it's unnecessary.
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2 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:They have a reason for this .
They are worried that the chinese tourists will become infected abroad and take the virus back to China .
They seem to be more careful than ...
To the many posters here who wish for quarantine to be abolished ... don't you see what is going on in the world ?
Exponential growth of infections about everywhere , and still many believe that the virus is nothing but a hoax ?
Go and visit a hospital in the US or Uk , or France , Spain , Italy , India etc ...
New Zealanders can now enter Australia without quarantining. It shouldn't be necessary between countries that have no or very few active cases. Expecting people to quarantine is not going to resuscitate tourism. Nobody expects Thailand to open up to the countries you mention, but a quarantine free bubble with covid free countries would be a good way to reintroduce tourists to the country. With a vaccine just around the corner, the risks are not so great if tourism is currently contained to a select few countries, but not just China.
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If they allowed Australians in on an economically viable 14 day quarantine/90 day visa, I would leave tomorrow. We have so few cases here even the quarantine should be waved but that's not going to happen in a hurry. Instead of taking reasonably safe steps to reintroduce tourism they come up with these grandiose schemes involving ridiculous tourist sources and expensive resorts, even proposing taking highly risky Scandinavians in November. I am sure there are much simpler and safer ways for Thailand to resurrect their tourist industry. The last thing cruise people will want to do is spend 90 days in Thailand.
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5 hours ago, ianezy0 said:
Why, too few tourist numbers from both Countries.
More Chinese tourist used to visit Thailand than the total population of both OZ and NZ......chicken feed ????
The article also contained the following quote:
'But a pact with China may open the door for similar travel agreements with countries such as Japan, South Korea, Singapore and Taiwan,' Phiphat said.
I was suggesting Australia and New Zealand could be added to the list of bubble countries suggested by Phipat. They were originally part of a bubble suggested by Thailand several months ago. There are not many countries with numbers as low as Australia or New Zealand and I would not imagine their tourist numbers are that much lower than the other countries named. Surely Thailand would want to receive tourists from as many countries as possible.
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11 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:Chinese however don't travel to any destination with unrest. So with street protests escalating, unless that's over by then, don't expect many or any to come.
Hopefully the street protests will continue for a long time as they are entirely warranted. If that keeps the Chinese away, well and good.
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I am surprised Australia does not get a mention. New Zealand has just opened a one way travel bubble with Australia, and the government also seems to be loosening reasons for travel exemption - they are apparently entertaining applications from people who will leave the country longer than three months. These two countries would provide a very safe tourist source for Thailand.
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13 minutes ago, Ks45672 said:
I poison the local ones whenever necessary and if I'm lucky I sometimes run them over when I'm driving
I think I prefer the Thai attitude to your's.
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26 minutes ago, AhFarangJa said:
I don't know if this particular problem we are now having is happening elsewhere, but since the Government announced tax on vacant land plots a lot of areas in Hua Hin are being cleared and planted. Many of these areas were overgrown and provided the dogs with "safe havens", and territories. Now they are all wandering the roads in packs. Yet we still have the moronic people ( Foreigners, as much as Locals ), leaving large bowls of rice and other foods on the road for them, so they will obviously stay where the food is.
What's the alternative for the dogs! Don't feed them and watch them die of starvation? Blame them for becoming aggressive as they fight for their very existence because no one is giving them food? This is not a humane solution.
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2 hours ago, bodga said:
make feeding illegal and enforce it
Make dumping dogs in sois or at wats illegal too.
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6 hours ago, Hamus Yaigh said:
Noticing many more strays sleeping on the streets these days, abandoned by owners no doubt facing financial troubles during the pandemic. The dogs need taking off the streets now.
And the previous owners who dumped them need taking out of circulation too! Puppies are cute but when they grow they all too often get dumped, sometimes just by being shut out of the property in which they have been raised. Then Thais don't want dogs to be sterilised so their numbers in the streets just grow. If Thai people acted responsibly and compassionately to animals, particularly dogs and cats, these sorts of problems wouldn't arise.
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1 hour ago, AsiaCheese said:Your profile says that you've only been a forum member since 17th August, and that you live nowhere. At the same time, you (make it sound like you) have all the details on why China is so bad. Are you being paid for this?
I reckon I have all the details that I need that China is not a country to be trusted and which has several elements to it that are thoroughly dislikeable. I am not paid for holding unflattering opinions of China as a country. Don't see why other posters would be either.
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Probably just another example of the appalling attitude to the worth of wild animals too many Asian people, particularly Chinese, and their willingness to exploit and kill them for financial game. Hopefully the worker concerned was involved in the disappearance of the deer and has taken his own and the directors life to avoid bring shame on his family.
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5 hours ago, steven100 said:so much for social distancing ...... I am sure we'll see a spike in COVID19 ....
only themselves to blame.
Covid 19 doesn't grow out of thin air. There are no cases to worry about. How does anyone catch a virus that doesn't exist.
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2 hours ago, Nout said:
Evidence for the above assertion? I believe people who relish this news are people who dont live in Thailand especially Australians who are unable to leave
What a load of rubbish! I am one of those unfortunate Australians stuck in stage 4 restrictions in Melbourne for what seems like forever. I would kill to get back to Thailand and more particularly Cambodia. It would hardly help my cause for Thailand to suffer cases and further provoke restrictions and prolong the country's opening. Sure it might be a year before I am able to leave Australia, but it's hardly going to increase chances for freedom of international movement if any country suffers 2nd and 3rd waves.
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14 hours ago, DrTuner said:
Highly likely that it swept through prisons long time ago. Perfect breeding ground. They could test for antibodies, but ... "too expensive". Better buy a few more submarines.
Haven't heard anything from my Thai mate in prison about it. But letters are censored before they are sent out, so who knows what the truth is. Can't get there to visit personally, though he is also afraid that guards listen in to conversations too. He has twice had severe TB inside so I have been afraid what would happen to him if the virus got inside the prison walls.
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1 hour ago, Road Warrior said:
out in a few years released .ok to kill again ,what about EYE 4 A EYE ??
You really don't know much about this case, do you?!
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8 minutes ago, natway09 said:
Why is everybody getting their tits in a tangle ?
The cheapest NZ is offering for 15 days is over $8,000 (approx 168,000 Thb)
Australian prices around $3000 so I cannot see how NZ could be asking $8000.
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As someone with a Thai friend 7 years into a 13 year jail term for a relatively minor offence, I find this preferential treatment of the Red Bull heir sickening and a total indictment of the Thai legal system. It is a disgrace.
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The dog did not choose to be a stray and deserves more compassion than is shown by many posters here. Why does the woman feed the dog? Because she owned it as a pup then put it on the street when it was no longer cute and lovable? Or because she feels she will gain merit by feeding it? Suggestions of befriending the dog are morally far more acceptable than rat poison or sticks with nails. I fully understand the dog owner's concern for his two small dogs and he should be able to enjoy a walk with them without feeling harassed. But unfortunately this a country that makes no attempt to control the dog and cat population through neutering programs, as a result of which dogs are forced to fend for themselves in the streets. It's a dilemma and I hope the owner can find a solution that doesn't involve cruelty and suffering for the unfortunate stray.
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Local elections in Thailand: Booze ban in place this weekend
in Thailand News
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The Thai solution to everything - an alcohol ban.