Kenny202

I don't think anyone from the west would really feel comfortable about it, irrespective of how they put a nice face on it. I'd be cringing during the negotiations, particularly demonstrating my worth to penniless drunks. As far as proving wealth and ability to support the daughter...(who grew up wiping her a$$ barehanded) surely a glimpse at your bank book should suffice. Maybe a letter from the bank aka immigration lol. Anyway, it's the way it's done here (sometimes). Everything here seems to start and end with money.

There is culture and then there are greedy predators, praying on a good hearted soul who wants to fit in with the culture. What you pay for a Western wedding in neither here nor there. No one likes to get ripped off or treated like an idiot. It doesn't matter if its a deliberate overcharge of 10 baht at the cashier of 7/11. The request for huge sums of money like this is a test....and will set the scene for the remaining relationship with your inlaws which will ultimately effect your marriage

Correct

It will after she takes the house and everything else he owns and he's left penniless in a 1500 baht a month "loom"

All due respect, and I do respect you as a very level headed poster here but really what you are talking about is a defacto type thing which IS recognized in many countries in the world the same as that of a marriage....certainly in Australia where I come from. There are no "common law / defacto" laws here at all and a village wedding is only a ceremony. May bolster a case in some other way but the woman will have no recourse on the guys property at all, nor will she be entitled to alimony claims. the common law thing I have been through with a lawyer.

Not all Thai guys are like that. I got a few mates in Bangkok now and as good blokes as you could meet. Good sense of humor, loyal friends and all have great wives that they met or new at school or uni....They got the pick of the crop. We seem to get the rejects....aka "I want farang, Thai man no good". Usually this sort of Thai woman turns out the be exactly the same as the lazy shiftless adultering ex boyfriend / husband she described she was with before you???????? Mind you dating later in life just as bad back home. Often the husband left her (and possibly his wife left him) for good reasons / issues.

No, 100% wrong. They are entitled to 50% of what was attained after the marriage. This could be brought into question if you don't have receipts etc of valuable items to prove you had them before the marriage. And the husband is also entitled to 50%. Unfortunately, often in practice the selling of the home and getting your 50% can be unrealistic or a battle in itself, particularly if the home is in a poor village and difficult to sell. A lot of behind the scenes manipulating can be done to block or falsify a sale at a very low price. And in many cases who wants to live in the exes home village where the relatives may make life difficult. Its could to know you have it up your sleeve as leverage I guess but I think most blokes simply move on and write off the experience

The problem here is they expect to go from the Shet house to the Penthouse in one leap. I have never seen people that come from such a poor, hard back ground be so entitled and lazy. Not all of course but a great many. I been here a long time and lived in a few villages and it remains a mystery to me. They don't want a better life....they want it all and everyday...and for ever. That's usually when the trouble starts when the assets are already all in her name and the husband tries to be responsible and put's her on a budget. Noooooooo! As a regular poster here mentioned here not so long ago, it is a carrot and stick arrangement. You give em the carrot and it's often game over

Only applies to foreign FEMALES with a Thai husband and kids? Not Farang guys with a Thai wife I assume

Really? What happens when a married Farang man and Thai woman separate (still married)? I thought unless the wife would assist the farang with the ruse, ie show up for extensions etc the existing marriage extension was null and void if the couple separated? Or do you only need to be still married whether living together or not?

I have heard of blokes putting 1 or 2 mill on the table as show money and expecting to get it back after the wedding. From experience, I am pretty sure I could never be that trusting, particularly with a village family

Mate of mine...and this is a mate of a mate story so can't confirm....but reckons in PNG the groom has to sleep with the sisters and mother. And if you think that sounds appealing you have never seen a PNG woman lol

Yeah understand and didn't even consider that. But you need a specialized field and one that meets criteria for a work permit eg English teacher. You can't just get a work permit for any employment. She may not even be a native English speaker or have the required credentials for a specialized job. Only guessing of course. Don't want to sound racist in anyway here but the only women I have known here that married a Thai and had kids, particularly 4 were certainly not Western women. Most were African, Filipino, Viet, Laos, Cambodia etc

I know its not legal or binding, only ceremonial. Just saying if legal marriage wasn't favorable a village wedding may do. I for eg wouldn't consider a legal marriage because I will be eligible for a pension in 5 years (if they still exist!). If I married a Thai women even outside of Australia my pension would be reduced by 30%. On the other hand as stated if he wanted to protect as least some of his investment in a house here...legal marriage may be the way to go. If your saying a village wedding with no signatures can me construed as a legal agreement / marriage I really doubt it and first time I've heard about it in ten years. Sounds more like he says she says but if it was an issue wouldn't cost a lot to ask a lawyer

Agree, maybe a village wedding and a party. I would weigh up the pro's and con's of formal marriage first. From what I know some positives some negatives. Certainly if you are considering building a property in her name or buying vehicles etc do it AFTER you marry. That way you will be entitled to half of what came into the relationship after legal marriage. If you buy all this stuff in her name BEFORE you are married it will be legally hers and she will be entitled to everything she had before the marriage (house, vehicles) and entitled to 50% of everything you acquired after the legal marriage. An acquaintance of mine learning that the hard way now. Another thing to consider, and maybe not be a financial consideration but should you wish to apply for the pension in at least Australia, know that your pension will be reduced on the basis you are married. Ridiculous really particularly if you marry a woman that will not contribute in anyway financially....but they deem as you are married you will be sharing expenses etc etc therefor the sum is reduced. Just food for thought.

First paragraph a fair description...but it works both ways. Poor Isaan people dont get millions of baht for a poor uneducated girl, particularly with kids, ex husband etc. 50k max in this circumstance if it were a village Thai brokerage unless the family had big land holdings. Family financial support is also meant to stop on marriage. It seems horrible putting a price on a woman and a marriage but that indeed is the culture here and their rules of the game. For a poor Isaan family to be asking for even 6 figures is ridiculous....well at least to a Thai who knows the deal it is ridiculous. In my book starts the relationship off on the wrong foot and demonstrates you are a gullible and easy mark from that day forward. Anyone who has ever negotiated a price on anything with a Thai should know to negotiate hard and don't give in too easy, even if you think a fair price. They go away thinking they could have gotten more and the games will start the next day...agreed price being increased. But hey, if you have deep pockets and you want to show the love you have for this girl it's 100% your choice.

I have found with Isaan people no matter what you give it is never enough. Always ends up in disappointment and self loathing. Yours!. If the girl has any kids, previous husband, non educated or older no sinsot payable anyway. She probably cant cook, drive, take care of a home, work or even hold a decent conversation...and probably has no intention of doing these things. Haven't even got started to how you are going to be the financial solution to everyone of your new extended families money issues of which will be relentless. So you in essence are buying yourself a block of cement to tie around your neck. Sinsot is not only about what you are bringing to the table. You are meant to be getting something for your money. The more education / earning potential she has, the more family land you stand to inherit...the higher the sinsot

Depends if the kids are born here or have Thai citizenship, but some sort of visa should be available. Working? I don't think so...In the same boat with the rest of us ie only way to work is create a company. Not sure where she's from or if she has any savings but I would say her best choice would be to go back home and work and possibly receive some welfare if available

These ships are designed for battle and the most extreme of conditions. Boats don't just list and fill with water for no reason, even in the heaviest of seas. I'm guessing they left out the bit it ran aground or hit something. I mean how could you?

Speaking of outrageous claims, wasn't this your opening statement? My guess is he wanted something fairly perverted. I hope the gutless mongrel gets locked up.

Did you get training in "short times" at the same time you were trained in self defense or was it hand to hand combat? My guess hand to something else. Let me guess...black op's? Special services or too many Chuck Norris movies?

Well said. Too easy for women to make unfounded accusations whenever they want. You see it in the media everyday. Does a man saying he has been abused or assaulted by a woman carry the same weight as a woman making the same allegations? Not by half...and the reason is logic would suggest the man is stronger and capable of defending himself. Unfortunately not if he's expected to stand there like a fool and literally "take it on the chin"

What does that mean? Use a phone book? ????????

You pick a fight with the boss and now running scared? Seen people like this all my working life. Usually people trying to get some leverage on the boss to cover their own lack of performance or ineptitude. You're not going to win this one. Keep your head down and look for another job ASAP. Try not to repeat your behavior in your next position

To be honest, you sound like a typical office troublemaker. Either accept him as your Superviser or look for another job. It's not all about you