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Which still doesn't negate the fact that the motorcycle driver is at fault for the accident. If it was a kid riding down the pavement, would it be the kids fault ? Regardless of the 'road legality' - I believe fault lies with the Hyundai driver because of the recklessness of his driving. If he was driving at 100kmh and went into the back of an 'untaxed' motorcyclist, we can't say its the motorcyclists fault as it should not have been there in the first place.

No... the accident was 'caused' by the Hyundai driver cutting across a driving lane, a shoulder and a sidewalk without any consideration for other road / sidewalk users.... It could have been a kid riding down the pavement or shoulder..... I do agree with your underlying sentiment that its not legal for motorcyclist to be riding on the shoulder, however, this is a grey area as there are signs in 'some' area's that indicate the law allows for this - I'm just not sure if this is legal in this area. Obviously a major part of the issue is that there is a lack of consistency and local regulations vary, and local traffic often adapts to each individual road. In this case the Hyundai driver has failed to adapt to the driving conditions in Thailand and also made a reckless manoeuvre - without doubt the accident is completely the fault of the Hyundai driver. The argument to suggest the motorcyclist is at fault becasue he should not have been there is similar to suggesting, if the motorcyclist was drunk he should not have been there.. the dangerous manoeuvre itself supersedes the other - in such an example the motorcyclist could be charged with DUI separately... In this case, IF it is proven that the no motorcycles can ride down the shoulder, then that could be a separate charge. The driver of the Hyundai still drove recklessly causing an accident.

Are you implying that its ok to just walk up to any female and slap them on the backside just because you are in Nana Plaza ???

That would usually be the case here... ... Although we'd read all about that if she was a Doctor or someone in a position or family considered by society to whom these things 'cannot happen'...

A number of points here... - The guy made a very stupid mistake, perhaps thinking he was being funny - completely unacceptable. - The response seems like an over-reaction thats not to minimise what happened. - Would a Thai man have received the same response ? - Would a similar 'slap' on a Western Woman (by a Thai male ) been treated in the same manner ? --------- I think it was last year - An Indian man was charged 200,000 baht for something similar (slapping a woman's bottom on Walking street - she was a 'dancer' and not a hooker etc)... ... Questions asked then - Whenever walking in an 'entertainment area' and a Ladyboy tries to grab a mans junk, why aren't they charged ??? --------- What happened to this lady is wrong. The man needs to be very apologetic and perhaps even face charges - but I'm left wondering if the only reason the response was so exaggerated is because this was a 'foriegner'. Turning this into the huge pantomime is excessive - I'd like to see such a response when there is a report of domestic violence (whatever the nationality of the offender)

Turning from the right-most lane across the left lane and cutting off a car and a motorcyclist is not illegal in Thailand? You might have had an argument had the car in the left-most lane had turned and struck the motorcycle. 100%

The accident happed because of the careless driving of the Hyundai driver... I think this supersedes the motorcyclist riding the shoulder... I've pointed out earlier that this 'shoulder' looks to be used as a left lane by all traffic, cars included (photos of this posted earlier on this thread). Whether riding / or driving in that left lane legally or not, the careless and reckless nature of the Hyundai driver is what caused the accident more so than the actions of any of the other riders / drivers in this situation as the driver has failed to to account for 'normal traffic behavior'.... If the Hyundai was turning left from the 'inside' driving lane (not the shoulder) and a motorcyclist sped up the inside and there was a collision - then I'd agree that the motorcyclist is at fault, however, the Hyundai turned blindly from the right most lane without any consideration for traffic in the left hand 'driving' lane (not the shoulder) and is therefore solely at fault (IMO). From a self preservation perspective - the motorcyclist could hold himself accountable and his actions complicit in causing his own injuries because he was not riding carefully or defensively - but from a 'legal-fault' perspective I can only see the Hyundai driver as being at fault here.

These guys didn't 'think of it' either... They copied it... this stuff has been doing the rounds on social media for a decade.

You write whatever it is you are going to post, then LL will stroll along and highlight your mistake !!

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The comb at the end of the travelator could grab the family jewels? I'd very much doubt they'd 'ride the rowing boat' until the very end of the travelator... ... Extremely stupid if they did... Imagine that story... "Travelator Oar-deal Leaves Tourists Short-Changed Below Deck!"

This is a new one... I though 'netizen outrage' was only to be directed at foreigners in Thailand.....

Since when have go-go bars been illegal? Yawn.... You're going don't that silly pedantic rabbit hole and clinging on to the incredulous again LL... Nakedness in the gogo bars is illegal, so is the prostitution that goes on in them - but you knew that already....

I think the 'Link between tickets and tax' depends on the IT set up of each regional office (or at least it was).. i.e. the systems in one province may not be the same (as modern) as systems in another province. In 'some' provinces - when paying the Tax the DLT is also aware of any fines registered to the vehicle and they 'will' request that you pay the fines.... ... But, a recent case (as linked above) ruled that the DLT cannot withhold tax documentation if you refuse to pay the fine. Thus: This could be one of two things. a) They systems are not linked in the province yet and they were unaware of the fines. or... b) The systems are linked, but the DLT have taken the ruling a step further and are not making any requests to pay fines.

That section is taxi parking only... so the roads is not marked red and white, to indicate no parking, but instead has the yellow parking bays and a sign... .. the lad probably parked there as he saw loads of other bikes already parked there.... Thats what happens here, one person breaks a rule, many others soon follow.

What netizens exactly ?.... Couple of comments on social media ? Just a pair of lads having a laugh... This 'rowing thing' has been done the world over, quite amusing, but no longer original in the slightest...

Careful... you'll get the forums 'only' authority on road safety telling that you are racist, bias and have no idea how road safety works because you are drawing conclusions from observations not woke text books...

100%... never have I been 'so anti' any British Politician before... This guy may leave lasting damage.... There's a supermarket in the midlands somewhere without its manager... and this is all this guy is good for - that he made it to PM astonishes me.. how a vote of no confidence has not yet been called is a bigger surprise.

Coming home after a night out... would be the usual 'go to answer' considering she referred to him as her BF. Utter ayhole of a foreigner 'fleeing the scene'... probably pished up... But... what strikes me as odd is this comment in the article.... How does he flee the scene on another motorcycle ? - did he steel it (keys left in ignition etc).. or, was another mate on a motorcycle also present ?

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Don't mess with me or your scooter will be next. 😂 No chance...... I've got one of those handle bar brake lever locks !!!

I see... All thefts involve a screw-driver in the ignition.... none involve a bike being lifted onto a pickup and driven off, or wheeled away (pushed by another guy on a scooter).... Admittedly, I'm clearly not as familiar with scooter theft as you....

Be straight up... Just tell them you had a better offer and have to respectfully decline their offer. But, ensure you have the second offer locked in first.

Is your home not more relaxing and comfortable than a business class lounge full of other people ? Also... I don't view the lounge in the same manner as glutton getting their monies worth of prawn tempura at the seafood buffet !!!...

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