richard_smith237

I'll have go through it again in about 20 months... [driving & motorcycle licence renewal] Always done it myself since the very first time about 20 years ago... expect it to be just as easy next time. Sometimes its busier at the DLT, sometimes it isn't. If you live 200 km away from a DLT and will save 1500 baht in petrol... and a whole day of time - then fair enough - but is it ????? Don't you have to be there anyway to do the 'in room tests' and watch the video ??... So you're not saving petrol at all... The only benefit an agent brings for a DLT renewal is to 'queue jump'... (and to baby sit a person through the process if they need that). Visa Renewal / extension of stay - if it saves time and having to travel a long distance, then sure, fair enough - but don't you have to be there again ?

It depends on the purpose of the stop. If merely for ID check, you're in compliance with Thai law. In theory, as Immigration, they can then check your visa status by computer. Obviously, if they want to see original stamps, or you're under suspicion for criminality, then only your physical passport will do, and you have 24 hours to produce or have it produced if you're detained. It would help if you stop obfuscating about migrant workers. It's totally irrelevant. In fact, you always love to jump into these pink ID card threads to spread misinformation, irrelevancy, speculation, and confusion, having nothing of any usefulness to contribute. Why is that? 100% agree.. so many silly comments from Neeranam the intention of which appears to counter the usefulness of possessing a the Pink ID with misinformation, irrelevancy, speculation, and obfuscation.... and then repeating the same flawed generalisation and statements as if the repetition itself ads validity. The law doesn't specify each and every type of acceptable identification you may carry to be in compliance. It also doesn't say that a photocopy or a phone photo is "legal identification." YAWN. Yawn indeed... its like debating with a 5 year old !!!.. The regulation I saw way back (transliterated) states... "we must carry government issue Photo Identification at all times or be able to provide such within a reasonable time frame".... (I'd like to be able to find that document which if I recall correctly was a translation of the actual law - but I've looked and can't dig it out). Has nothing to do with foreign income. I find my card useful. What's YOUR problem? Those with a Yellow House Book already have a Tax ID... so the Pink ID makes no difference to that whatsoever.

Fair enough... Do you carry your Passport around with you all the time though, or do you carry your Pink ID without just incase the police stop you and want to check / confirm your ID ?

Not true, some bank workers who don't know the law might allow it. Government banks certainly don't. Only domestic flights, but DL is enough. DLT, not in my experience. Yawn... seriously ??? more obfuscation... Pink ID widely accepted at numerous banks (already mentioned numerous times in this thread) Government Banks - no idea.... what relevance is that to any of us with a normal account ? Domestic flights - Of course... and Yes, its reported a DL also works (so what? your argument is that Pink ID is not accepted as ID). DLT - Yellow Book and Pink ID widely accepted (only Chonburi and perhaps a couple of others its not).

???? so ?? are the language abilities of a 'farang you know' of any relevance to anything in this thread all ?? When people refer to the house book in these fora they use different terms all readily understood. - Yellow House Book - Yellow Tabien Baan - Yellow Tabien Baan House Book - Tabien Baan for non-Thai's

Agreed... If stopped by Immigration Police who really wanted to know your Immigration status I doubt a Pink ID will suffice. How many Immigration Police do you see around the streets ??? But playing along with you.... you can show immigration a copy of your Passport and Visa Stamp on your phone and if that doesn't satisfy them they can check your records... If that doesn't satisfy them, you have your 'passport available' within a reasonable time frame (i.e. at home or in a hotel safe)... No.. but there you go again Gaslighting - you are making up a scenario that doesn't and wont exist to try and win score a point in an imaginary argument in your head..... Everyone knows the Pink ID is completely unrelated to Visa status. No one has argued it is... there you go again making up a scenario that doesn't and wont exist to try and win score a point in an imaginary argument in your head..... Yet its accepted at Banks, Airports, DLT etc (there was even an infographic of such earlier on in the thread). And that works perfectly well for me, avoids getting another letter of residence / Embassy letter etc... Very possible, but still a flawed comment... and this is the only 'nearly' valid comment you have made on this subject so far... But that has nothing to do specifically with the 'Pink ID card' itself.... and everything to do with having a Tax ID number (which is the number in the Yellow Book too)... So, are you also against having a Tax ID and Yellow House Book now as well ?

#2 in the line of responding posters "countering your claim that you 'need to have your gym membership card in your wallet too.'" Focus. Ah... your comment was unclear and led me to a different conclusion... .. So by 'Here you are, #2' you meant... 'Here, in this thread you are #2 to respond'.... and not 'here, in Thailand, you are #2 status'... Lets write proper sentences shall we ??? (easier all around)...

That seems incredibly inflexible... If you forget your Gym membership card they will make you pay for the day..... Only because the card has your signature on it and a hole in it... Don't they have your expiration date on their computer ?.... this all seems as though you are making up excuses as to why you have to carry around additional cards - seems a bit exaggerated to me.

Correct, from what I've observed an agent knows what they are doing and speeds up the process often handling multiple applications, in my case the person was assisting 5 people in total. Seating was not at a premium because 1 extra person was there, unlike the situation in the main body of the Jomtien immigration office. I see your point... I just object to paying 3000 baht for an agent for something I can so very easily do myself (in a similar amount of time - unless the Agent can queue jump)... The last time I did the DL the queue was huge... and after the video & classroom tests the queue to actually collect the licence was at least an hour long... I didn't wait, I went for a massage and came back two hours later... queue well and truly missed, I showed the staff my number and they slotted me straight in at the front (a little cheeky.... but I just couldn't be done waiting that long in that crowded room). I've never needed to use an agent for anything here.... the Driving licence is certainly easy enough to do on your own. That said, I do understand those who bring their Wife for Translation purposes (although I never found that necessary and my Wife has better things to do than baby sit me)... Immigration is slightly different - we may need to bring the Wife for an extension based on Marriage - thats the only time my Wife has ever got involved in of the bureaucratic stuff I deal with here - the same in reverse... whenever we travel, the Wife deals with all her own Visa applications... I get your point... well worded as not to cause offence to the feckless characters who bring their Ex BG GF or Wife in tow.... I kind of agree.. but... agents are a nice little earner for Immigration who obviously receive 'fees' for being allowed to operate and speeding through the system etc.... this eventually feeds back to us, when (if) we are made to 'jump through extra hoops' and direct dealings are made more hassle to such a degree we end up making the decision pay and go the 'agent route'.... (as mentioned in various threads on this forum in the past). ... So, there is potential 'knock-on' impact to us.

Yes.. Tesco's finest had some good selections... Particularly the wine... The same thing happened when Carrefour switched over to Big C... The quality of products diminished. Its clear that a cartel of big players are preventing the quality international chains from developing in the market..... Thats not a bad thing, as in the West the Supermarkets have killed the highstreets....

You're right. It's full of questions. But I read in the last paragraph.. ...investigators questioned six witnesses and scrutinised the individual purporting to be Ann’s father. However, no connection between Ann and the man was established. So no telling what really happened. Agreed... did that mean 'no direct connection to Ann' ???... ingnoring that the Policeman was a friend of Anns father ?... We just don't know... We don't know if Ann's father was there, or if a Man driving identified himself as Anns father was actually Ann's father or if he was lying. We don't know if was the Policeman who was driving and he was there alone.... The article is so incomplete its an insult to the reader and ultimately highlights a degree of stupidity (unprofessionalism) that it was even published in the first place.... I suppose this is what we get with such lowbrow media sources - we shouldn't have any expectations... If Aseannow were to proof read every news article and not re-publish the ones with glaring flaws and numerous holes there would be very little to actually publish... ... instead... we just read this regurgitated news and think... yup, full of holes... here we go again...

No, that ain't the system. You give them the card, they give you a locker key in return. Give back the key, get back your card. Don't make extra work for staff, man. Adapt. Thrive. Not wishing to go too far off track here... what if you forget your 'Gym Card'... they wont let you in ? The exchange is just to ensure they get the locker key returned... Wouldn't they accept the Pink ID for the same purpose ? (of course, no extra hardship to carry a Gym Card - but all these cards if everyone insists on presenting the card do add up and it starts to get a bit ridiculous). I'm supposed present my Thai Elite Card whenever using a 'service'... (i.e. Golf, Massage, Immigration etc)... I never do, but if they ask I have copy on my phone and that suffices. Here you are, #2. The phrase, Et tu, Brute? comes to mind. No...I disagree with that completely.... I'm not #2 here at all and have never accepted that logic from some (i.e. we're guests here, no rights etc)... Neither am I #1... I'm just another person and expect to be treated as everyone else... no better, no worse... Thus, those who believe or accept that they are #2 and second class to Thai people are already broken... respect yourself and others will to.

How do you know none of them is the father of the Girl friend [Ann] - the article is extremely vague about this point. Understood... but is this what actually happened ? The Thaiger article (linked) states... [Abruptly, a police officer seated beside the sedan driver shot Thitiwat in the neck, causing him to collapse]. It seems he was 'ready for a fight'... as if they were doing something as innocent as just picking up the 'daughter' on the way home (if he was with the GF's father) then this would not have escalated with the apparent speed it did. Completely agree - the laziness is doubled up... Firstly we have the extremely poor reporting with very few facts, then we add an extremely poor translation into English which adds further lack of clarity.

So you used an agent... But don't agree with guys who may not speak Thai taking their wife along to translate and assist ??

Well... it isn't really necessary is it ?? .. you could keep a copy of the gym membership card on your phone (besides, don't the staff know you, and / or don't you have a membership number you can just give them)... So sure, you'll get posts countering your claim that you 'need to have your gym membership card in your wallet too'... but really... Do you ??? I understand about not wanting to give them your phone number... it seems there are so many 'weak links' when it comes to selling data to marketing teams (and we end up getting all these stupid marketing calls). ----------- One card that I carry in my wallet is my Health Insurance card (forgot to mention that earlier) There is also a copy with my DL in my Car and Motorbike.

And it certainly does NOT give the policeman the right to draw his gun and kill someone. BUT... IF the boy friend was approaching the Police Sergeant with a knife in hand and about to attack him after already showing rage and aggression, it be argued the Policeman was defending himself... The article itself is so vague and leaves so much open to interpretation its impossible to tell.... The quality of reporting in these articles picked up and re-posted here is, as usual, absolutely atrocious...

Vague reporting... - The Driver introduced himself as Ann's father. - The Driver; Ann's father, introduced himself.

Was the Father (of Ann) also present at the time ??? Was the Police Sergeant a 'friend' of the father of Ann ?? is this why he disapproved ? i.e. The Son was wrong-un... Or... is there another reason he 'disapproved' ?? (e.g. he had taken a liking to Ann) i.e. The son was protecting the girl and this is murder...

Thats what I initially thought... But deleted my above comment suggesting similar becase of this (below - from the linked article). Surely if the Police Sergeant was helping his friend who was the girls father then that link would have been outlined ??? (with the standards of reporting here, we obviously don't know).

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Where can you get SSO without the pink ID? He means that LogicThai lives in the area with the worst / most bureaucratic Amphur office because the requirements to obtain Yellow House Book exceed the requirements stipulated by most other Amphurs by a long shot... and then the very strange part that his Amphur Office has additional and excessive requirements to obtain the Pink ID which usually only entails showing the Yellow House Book (and another form of ID to prove ID).

You see people logging into their computers using their Thai ID cards ??? I've used something similar with companies before who have high levels of security and we can only log in with our company ID card inserted (which has a chip)... Perhaps some companies have set up something similar but to use the ID number on the Thai ID card ? As far as 7-11 payments goes, this may be to pay utility bills registered in someones name and the 'card is run' to confirm the identity... (something like that anyway).

I'm in the same situation... I left during covid and will return in summer... My Kasikorn accounts are unaccessable from their website... Can you elaborate on what you had to do to reactivate?... Thanks Unfortunately I can't... This was over two decades ago... the account had hardly anything in it so I just let it stay dormant... I later opened another account instead My guess is to reactivate you'd have to visit the Bank with your Passport etc, but I'm not sure if any more hoop jumping than that is required. From overseas, I'm not sure what you can do other than contact their helpline and find out the next steps.

I'm guessing biometrics data, just like a our passport...

Who the heck carries paid utility bills around with them. Really ???... its good info to be aware of that... In 2020 I rented a car on two separate occasions (with UK license) - no bill was asked for and I'd have been stuffed if they had, as I'd just flown into the UK (and didn't have anything with me).... Perhaps a UK online Bank Statement has our address ??... Amazon UK Shipping address ??... UK PayPal Address ?? Ultimately, if a rental company makes it too awkward we can walk away, but that adds a major element of inconvenience, especially if having paid in advance, in which case we should be 'fore warned' that such additional documentation is required.