johnnybangkok

Are you seriously asking why a lot of white Americans thought relations with black people had gotten worse whilst the first (and only) black POTUS was elected and running the country? I'll guess at insecurity, white-privilege declining and downright racism but I don't know for absolute sure. What do you think?

That '81yo who can't remember anything' has just absolutely killed it with his State of The Union Address. You should try and watch it. I'll even provide a Fox link for you WATCH LIVE: President Biden’s 2024 State of the Union address | Fox News Video

Occam's Razor at it's finest. There are literally pages of results when you Google '"Trump offered Pelosi National Guard...she turned it down' yet you cannot find a single one that substantiates Trumps assertion? But yeah MSM is the problem.

What's 'hilarious' is your little graph shows the years when relations dropped down to their lowest levels are the Trump presidency years. Do you need any more of my help to dig your own grave or are you good?

Firstly, there's no need to write 'imop' at the end of all of your posts. We know it's your opinion as it certainly isn't based on facts. And by the way, it should be IMHO (in my humble opinion) but then again, there's not much 'humble' about your opinion. From the article you posted - 'The organizers behind the campaign, Free Speech for People, and RootsAction, are hinging their case on Trump’s insistence on maintaining ownership of his luxury hotel and golf course business while in office. Ethics experts have warned that his financial holdings could potentially lead to constitutional violations and undermine public faith in his decision-making'. They weren't wrong were they? Trumps insistence on keeping all of his business interests, breaking all previous traditions of placing them in blind trusts, has led to numerous allegations of impropriety, from Trump Organization charged Secret Service $1.4M to stay at his properties, committee says - ABC News (go.com) to booking Trump’s Washington hotel as a deliberate way for foreign visitors to show their 'support' for Trump's White House. Your man is a grifter pure and simple and as an American tax payer (which you may or may not still be) you were the one footing the bill.

I don't respond to anyone who starts their rants with 'Only ignorant woke snowflake liberals...........'. There is no debating people like yourself.

There is no debating you when you do not accept facts corroborated by the majority of the media. Instead you prefer to take the word of a pathological liar or the Twitter account of Kevin McCarthy.

I post 4 reputable media sources (I could have got you 10) confirming that Trump's statement is false; you post a Twitter comment from McCarthy. I find it really quite amazing how sucked in you all are with what Trump says. He lies ALL OF THE TIME and you fall for it ALL OF THE TIME.

Yes, thanks to Trump and his dog whistling to the white supremacists. Not every Trump fan is a racist but ALL racists are Trump fans.

'Pelosi’s spokesman said she was not consulted about the National Guard before Jan. 6. And the former House sergeant-at-arms, who reported to Pelosi, testified that he had no discussions about National Guard troops with any congressional leaders before Jan. 6. Without evidence to back it, we rate Trump’s statement False. PolitiFact | No proof Trump requested 10,000 Guard troops for Jan. 6 or that Pelosi denied it Fact check: Trump did not request 10,000 Guard troops for Jan. 6 (usatoday.com) AP fact check rates GOP claim Pelosi blocked National Guard on Jan. 6 ‘false’ | The Hill FactChecking Claims About the Jan. 6 Capitol Riot - FactCheck.org Next!

For once you are correct but as far as January 6th is concerned, he is being charged with conspiring to defraud the United States, conspiring to obstruct an official proceeding, obstructing a congressional proceeding and conspiracy against rights. The Jan. 6 charges against Trump explained - The Washington Post This is just one of many charges in connection to January 6th. He is of course being charged in Georgia with his efforts to overturn the legitimate will of the people in the election.

And how exactly did he do that? Was it by being black?

I really wish you lot would be done with the false equivalency. No one is saying the actions of a few at the BLM protests was anything other than abhorrent. This does not however excuse the actions of so many on January 6th. Both can be seen as equally bad BUT (and it's a big BUT), the BLM rioters were not looking to overturn a legitimate election by storming the very seat of US power. Now I'm not looking to diminish the actions of these idiots but I don't see too many 'civil war' signa or paramilitary outfits in your photos. Just a bunch of black teenagers taking the opportunity to riot and loot. Not great but also not the same.

Got any with them waving white supremacy flags, declaring a civil war or dressed in military gear?

I have already said I don't think this was an insurrection so you're preaching to the wrong choir but when you see the actually footage and photographs of the day (you know, the few that aren't photoshopped) then you can certainly understand why many would think it was. For gods sake, you've got guys walking around proclaiming a civil war This coupled with the vast amount of people dressed in para-military gear, I can see why many think it was

As these ones scared enough for you?

Well that kind of sums you all up doesn't it. I don't like it so it's fake!!

Well since flags seem now to denote whether something is or isn't an insurrection, care to explain these? Oh and course there was this as well.

Probably your most civil response to date. Well done. You see you can have a lively debate without resorting to insults and name calling. Long may it last.

For some reason your original post has been removed (mmmm I wonder why) but, you most certainly did insinuate the Biden himself had financially gained when you said 'using the position for financial gain from other countries' . If you are now saying that doesn't mean that Biden himself benefited financially from dealings his son was involved in then may I suggest you change the phrasing of you posts. Also, he was never 'sitting right there in their meetings with other countries with them knowing he was there in the meeting'. As was firmly established by the GOP investigation into Biden, his son certainly made known who his dad was (but then again he wouldn't be the only POTUS family leveraging their fathers position now would he) but in sworn testimony by Devon Archer, 49, a former business partner of Hunter said, all the conversations were by phone and 'it was all casual conversation, niceties, the weather, what’s going on. There wasn’t a single conversation about any of the business dealings that Hunter had.” This was verified by REPUBLICAN Dan Goldman after the inquest. And finally 5 things Biden has achieved include The American Rescue Plan Act after the devastation that Trump left with Covid, Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (which America now having record low unemployment), a stock market that is hitting even greater heights, the lowest inflation of all the G7 countries and taking on Big Pharma to reduce drug prices for millions. And if that's not enough, here's some more https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/02/joe-biden-30-policy-things-you-might-have-missed-00139046

Apart from the very obvious false equivalence I will give this a bash. The BLM protests where not part of the Democratic party. They did not start from Biden, Waters, Pelosi or AOC gathering a load of black people together to protest police brutality after the death of George Floyd whereas Trump gathered his mob together specifically to protest the 'stolen' election. The vast majority of the BLM protest was indeed peaceful but at times it was hijacked by violent thugs who were more interested in looting than protesting. These actions were immediately condemned by Biden even saying the day after looting in Portland “The deadly violence we saw overnight in Portland is unacceptable. As a country we must condemn the incitement of hate and resentment that led to this deadly clash. It is not a peaceful protest when you go out spoiling for a fight.” It took Trump 2 days and a great deal of pressure from his advisors, his family and the GOP to reluctantly hold a press conference and distancing himself with the '“Like all Americans, I am outraged by the violence, lawlessness and mayhem”. This is also when he conceded the election. However, no one of course believed Trump and (surprise, surprise), several months later in May he reposted on his Truth Social platform the slogan: “Free all J-6 political prisoners” after a few months earlier he told a rightwing website that “we’ll be looking very, very seriously at full pardons”. If you cannot see the difference between the two then there really is no help for you.

It's the same when they debate whether it was an insurrection or a riot! Either of these things should disqualify Trump but neither do in the eyes of your typical Trumper.

Well at least we are getting somewhere with your admissions. The problem with all of this is a normal 'disturbance, protest and at times violent, even riot' is exactly that - a riot. But when you aim that 'riot' at a building where Congress meets to write the laws of the nation, and where presidents are inaugurated, you open yourself up for accusations of insurrection - in·sur·rec·tion ˌin(t)-sə-ˈrek-shən: an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government I personally don't think it was an insurrection as I don't think the Trump crowd are that well organised or clever enough to mount an insurrection and I don't think for one minute Trump thought things would get as out of hand as they did but he is culperable for the actions of that day by getting the crowd together in the first place, getting them all riled up, pointing them at The Capitol Building and then doing nothing when it was obvious things were getting out of hand. Call it an insurrection; call it a riot, either way it was instigated by Trump and perpetrated by HIS supporters. In that there is no denying and is why this man should never be allowed back into office. Hopefully the American people will now stick the final nail in his coffin and vote Biden come November.

You've got to be some Russian bot or maybe a nephew of Trump. None of your softly, softly 'well there's no smoke without fire' clumsy innuendo masks the FACT that Biden has been exonerated by the GOP for NOT 'using the position for financial gain from other countries' 'After months of investigation and many public accusations of corruption against Mr. Biden and his family, the first report of the premier House G.O.P. inquiry showed no proof of such misconduct'. House Republican Report Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by President Biden - The New York Times (nytimes.com) https://archive.is/4RQtP Fox had jumped all over this previously with their 'super reliable' FBI informant nonsense until they couldn't rant any longer after the GOP themselves said it was a complete load of bull$hit. And don't try and paint Trump out as some sort of free speech hero. The job comes with responsibilities and one of them is knowing when to keep your big mouth shut. Something Mr. Foot in Your Moth has a bigly problem with. NB:- 'He had some really good ideas to make the US better for Americans' - ok. Name 10 - alright too hard, l'll settle for 5.

I really don't get this 'they're all as bad as each other' viewpoint when Trump is demonstrably worse in every way. It wasn't Biden who has been saying the election was rigged for the last 3 years; it isn't Biden who has been fined $454 million for business fraud; it isn't Biden who has been convicted of sexual abuse and it wasn't Biden who defrauded his own charity. All of these FACTS (and many, many more) are laid solely at the feet of Trump and goes to the very essence of the difference between the two candidates; Biden may be getting on a bit (about the worst criticism Trumpers can say about him) but Trump is just a nasty piece of work with the morals of an alley cat. And I don't need the usual to debate any of these facts. I know I won't change your mind because if facts logic or appeals of decency influnced you, you wouldn't be a Trump fan in the first place.