johnnybangkok

The POINT you so easily dismiss (or just simply don't understand) is that this obviously isn't an issue for whites. They're not the ones getting the $hitty end of the stick. So the correct wording for your statement is 'Pre Sentencing reports were considered ABSOLUTELY necessary for minorities but not AT ALL necessary for non minorities.' Lets put it in terms you might understand. Your suggestion would be like giving every ex-pat in Bangkok an STD test because some ex-pats frequent Nana Plaza. Ridiculous right, but that's your suggestion. Now do you get it?

And we have a winner ladies and gentlemen! Despite me clearly stating 'And before anyone thinks I'm a fan of Hamas and that I think this woman wasn't just stipid for doing what she did, think again. I'm just more of a fan of TRUE free speach and fairness across the board' - that's exactly the route you decided to take. It would be pathetic if it wasn't so predictable.

Ok great. All of which sounds terribly reasonable so I suppose you have evidence for all of this (especially the bit where was warned after having done it before)? I’d appreciate a few non-biased links that back up your assertions. I’m not in the “believing anything someone types as gospel” mood today. And If she was so guilty of all this, why did it require the pressure of a GOP councillor to get her sacked? Such obviously radical behaviour would usually only require a verbal warning, followed by a written warning and then dismissal. If egregious enough, you could sack her straight away under employment terms for “immediate dismissal “ which easily cover the things you are saying. Im not saying you’re wrong. I’m saying I need more than just your word for it.

You just go ahead and support anti- free speech and just hope it doesn’t affect you one day. Like most on here.

Someone get fairer treatment doesn't mean others get less. It's not pie. And if my point is only 'alleged' then why all the hullabaloo? Did you think the 2017 Lammy Review or the more recent review by the Sentencing Council (made up of some of the top judges in the UK) where just a bit bored and under-worked so decided to committ months and years to making all of this up? As usual, that echo chamber you so willfully inhabit doesn't allow you to see anything other than your own, myopic viewpoint.

No it's not. It could just be as easily construed as free speach. From A.I. 'In the U.S., verbally supporting a designated foreign terrorist organization can be illegal under certain circumstances, specifically when the speech constitutes "material support" or is used to incite or facilitate terrorist acts, as outlined in 18 U.S.C. § 2339A and § 2339B. The term "material support or resources" is defined in 18 U.S.C. § 2339B and includes things like funds, training, safehouses, weapons, false documentation, and communications. Free Speech Considerations: The Supreme Court has ruled that Congress can outlaw material support to terrorist organizations, even in the form of speech, when that speech is not independent of the terrorist organization and is coordinated with them. Examples of Illegal Speech: Counsel, promotes, encourages, or urges anyone to commit a terrorist act. Provides instructions on how to commit a terrorist act. Now the only part she could be accused of providing material support for would be to 'Praise anyone for committing a terrorist act' but there also has to be 'a substantial risk that such praise may lead another person to commit a terrorist act.' None of which has been proven. And it wasn't just ' a hospital decision', it came after heavy pressure from City Councilwoman Inna Vernikov, a Brooklyn Republican. If you want to have it your way then the US should start arresting anyone that espouses any support for white nationalism, supports the KKK, Aryan Nations or similar organisations that are categorised as domestic terrorism. And before anyone thinks I'm a fan of Hamas and that I think this woman wasn't just stipid for doing what she did, think again. I'm just more of a fan of TRUE free speach and fairness across the board.

Fine. Great. If that's the case then absolutely. There should be a complete focus on fairness and equality and that includes women. If they've done the crime then they absolutely should get equitable sentencing to men. That's my whole point. The law should be blind to ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation and of course gender. If there's bias then it needs to stop but you have to work out HOW the bias is there and come up with a system that prevents it.

Well then it's needed then unless you think it's acceptable that ethnics minorities are treated demonstartingly worse than whites (don't bother answering - I'll guess your response). If the system was even throughout then there would be no need for a report but as my previous post pointed out 'ethnic minority defendants were between 4% and 28% more likely to be remanded in custody and to have a consistently higher average custodial sentence length than white defendants.' And from the link you priovided - 'The Council, made up of some of the most senior legal figures in England and Wales, was adamant that the guidelines would have helped address disparities between how different ethnicities are treated in the justice system.' - but of course politicians have yet again got involved in matters that they are NOT experts in, pandering to people such as yourself who only see it as somehow being anti-white (a familiar drum you keep beating). The UK justice system is rightly held in high esteem throughout the world so if there IS disparity then it MUST be addressed. Everyone should be given a fair hearing REGARDLESS of ethnic background and if getting '.... extra information before deciding how to punish offenders from certain minority groups' is the answer, then so be it.

Yeah who needs people with different opinions to the powers that be. Whilst we are at it, let's deport the atheists, the flat earthers, the moon-landing deniers and the anti-vaxers. It's a VERY slippery slope to have people ostracised for their opinion. Christ, even the KKK are still allowed to talk in the US. https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/the-kkk-today/

As usual, you don't tell the whole story. It's got nothing to do with '2 tier sentencing' unless of course you are refering to how ethnic minority groups are treated WORSE than others in the UK legal system' 'The 2017 Lammy Review in the UK presented evidence of stark ethnic inequalities at all stages of the CJS. From the point of arrest, through prosecution to custodial remand, sentencing and imprisonment, ethnic minority groups were shown to be both disproportionately represented and to experience disproportionately worse outcomes. The most recent Ministry of Justice report (2021) shows that ethnic minority defendants were between 4% and 28% more likely to be remanded in custody and to have a consistently higher average custodial sentence length (ACSL), than White defendants.' https://www.adruk.org/fileadmin/uploads/adruk/Documents/Ethnic-inequalites-in-criminal-justice-system.pdf

He was added to the group by mistake. All the rage these days I hear 😂

Or an obvious right wing loony who takes small, isolated incidents as indicative of the whole of the UK to feed even more into his already warped cognitive bias. “Steel boot on the throat” - do you even hear yourself?

I wouldn’t hold your breath Myanmar junta continues air strikes after devastating earthquake https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy7x7r8m3xlo

And just as an interesting aside - IF Greenland was ever 'for sale' (big if of course), Britain gets first dibs:- 'The United Kingdom would have "first dibs" on Greenland, before the U.S, according to Greenland's last Danish minister. Tom Høyem, Copenhagen's last permanent representative in Greenland, said Trump would have to get approval to buy the island from U.K. Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer—because of an agreement made in 1917. Høyem told The Sunday Times: "If Trump tried to buy Greenland, he would have to ask London first. The United Kingdom demanded in 1917 that if Greenland were to be sold then the U.K. should have the first right to buy it." https://www.newsweek.com/united-kingdom-first-dibs-greenland-donald-trump-2021505 Obviously us Brits have a little more sense that to ever do this but it would be hilarious if we did.

Being British, I have more than just a rough grasp of the English language and you never use 'nice one' when refering to something like an earthquake. Just apologise and stop talking nonsense.

Well then maybe don't start your post with 'Nice one......" What an idiot.

Same one but a better angle https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16FCvw8NXy/?mibextid=wwXIfr

“Hold up, Hegseth is typing again”

Another old man bemoaning the youth of today like all old men throughout history - '"The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise." --Socrates

Amen brother. Absolutely sick of the site of him. EVERY day. Every &odding day. If there was any doubt about his true intentions then I don’t think there’s any now. We thought he was going to be bad. it’s worse.

No he hasn't. All he's got so far is Putin agreeing to to stop attacking Ukraine's 'energy infrastructure' which is a particularly ineffectual concession now that winter is over. However, if reciprocated (big if) this would let Putin off with something that has been causing him REAL problems i.e. Ukraine hitting Russia's oil refineries with drones and long range missiles. He's getting played for the absolute fool that he is by being thrown a VERY small bone but trying to spin it as an 'early stage of a ceasefire". Putin is holding all the cards because he's already seen Trumps cards beforehand when he very publicly berated Zelensky and briefly stopped military aid and intelligence sharing. Putin doesn't want peace or if he does he will demand huge concessions because he knows that Trump promised to end the war 'on day one!" The Art of the Deal my ar$e.

Yes you are. 'Why European Cities Like London and Amsterdam Appear Cleaner and Safer Than Their American Counterparts' - https://city-countyobserver.com/why-european-cities-like-london-and-amsterdam-appear-cleaner-and-safer-than-their-american-counterparts/#:~:text=Crime Rates and Policing,gun ownership and policing strategies. European countries in general also have a lower overall crime rate than most other continents and out of the top 20 countries marked through the Global Peace Index, European countries take 14 spots https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index#:~:text=The 2024 GPI indicates Iceland,to be the least peaceful. So yeah, you are making it up.

Get a room. Seriously.