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A farang friend call me an hour ago and told me that when he was downtown he was walking near a TRT center or something like that and someone started talking to him. The TRT person wanted him to go a rally tomorrow and cheer on Thaksin. He said they would take pictures of him. It was voluntary. My friend told him he was busy. They told him to take some pamphlets and stuff to pass out. He only took one of each just for himself.

I guess its hard for them to find foreigners that support Thaksin. I'm curious if there will be some other farang there in his place tomorrow.

Abhisit pretty much spelled out all the main complaints against the Shinwatra family. He was very straight forward. It was quite easy to follow. I hope his words get out to those in the countryside. Information is power; Thaksin knows that so he is doing everything possible to keep it away from the masses.

It would seem so.

I remember that the Thai baht was very low until the 1997 crisis. It was 20 -25 I think since the 80s. Is there any possiblity that it could go down to 30 again?

40/$1 for $100,000 = 4,000,000

500,000

35/1 " " = 3,500,000

1,000,000

30/1 " " = 3,000,000

1,500,000

25/1 " " = 2,500,000

You can lose quite a bit of cash with changes. Plus there are exchange charges.

Do farangs ever die naturally here?

Seems the options are:

pushed from skyscraper

jump from skyscraper by choice

drug overdose

alcohol overdose

murder by knife

murder by gun

clubbed to death

car accident

motorcycle accident

train accident

bus accident

runover by a vehicle

dissappearance, assumed dead

drowning

electrocution

Liver cancer, lung cancer and HIV seem to be the only semi-natural causes of death

There are things you are missing here Brit. Not everything is in the papers. This wasn't started by the Protesters by the way.

The newsstories posted here are even questionable. It's too bad this country is being led by someone who doesn't want the people to know or think.

Does Thaksin have plan to turn back the clocks to year zero?

IT - Information Technology

In Thailand:

NIOT No Information Only Thaksin

Can there ever really be an 'IT' fair in Thailand?

ColPyat, I know how things work. As I said for many people protesting Thaksin this isn't about politics its about abuse of power. Thaksin will go and someone else will come in. Should the new person be so corrupt and the government fails to address that persons abuse of power I'm sure, if need be the people will rise up against that person as well. Please read the posts, don't assume.

Power to the people who fight against corrupt leaders.

Don't get your statement about "no better", Brit. But I do agree with the idea that all sides should be heard, something Thaksin doesn't agree with.

Well in that case Brit then I guess they will vote for Thaksin. I'm glad you used the word perhaps. It's important to note that you do not know the truth as I do not.

Don't listen to Tanchart.

Like I posted some time ago. I attended a rally with my family. There was no money going around; in fact, people were donating money in small amounts to help out. If you watch the rallies on TV they always annouce any doantions. There was free food. Someone sitting next to us gave a foam container of rice with KaiPaloe to us for my daughter. Most people weren't there for the food. There were the regular people wandering through the crowd selling sticky rice with pork and other things. You could take a flag if you wanted one. You could also get a paper hat if you wanted one. I think they also gave away some free headbands but I bought one from a stall. The people who go there are passionate about the situation. they want to be there.

It's odd Thanchart that you would choose a monk as your avatar yet you seem pro-Thaksin. Is Thaksin a model of virtue?

And it's not about one political party against another. It's about the people against a corrupt politician. Those of you who try to paint the anti-Thaksin protesters as being 'the opposition' or other political parties are absolutely wrong. You seem to have an agenda as Thanchart does.

Reading these threads is enlightening. You can really see how some people are willing to choose evil as their master. I wouldn't have thought that so many people out there are really so selfish.

If the people have no information about the issues why would this election result in anything. What a massive waste of money by the government!

If you can't understand the idea that's okay.

So how about a poem for the girl.

Great.

Well I'm not expert on latitude and longtitude but the map shows Ubon on the southern end of Esarn. Depending where you live in Ubon you may be further south than someone in Surin or BuriRam.

Anyways I'm just generalizing. So where do you think you are?

Esarn is supposed to mean Northeast. The Thai think of Sakaew, CHantuburi, Trat, Rayong, and Chonburi as the East. It's a strange country to map out. I guess if you go by western standards you might name the parts differently.

Ubon is definitely not in the Northern end of Esarn in my book. Eastern Esarn could be a classification.

Here's a link to a map online.

http://www.apartmentbangkok.com/mapguide/m...ai_province.htm

You know Brit, I would like to say that I would accept a Thaksin win but I can't.

Here's one for you:

If a Prime Minister told his bodyguards to gun down fifty flowersellers in the street for fun and they did it. And later people protested for justice against the deaths of these people in mass as they are now. Would an election resolve the matter? Would the crime be forgotten. If the Governing party won the majority of the seats in a snap election like this one would you say the issue of the deaths is over? It would have to be as the corrupt government would never prosecute itself. The PM would have won and would never face justice for his crimes. Do elections solve everything.

Saddam could kill hundreds of thousands of shiites because most of the people thought it was okay?

Killing a few jews is okay because most people don't care?

Okay, these are extreme cases but does an election mean that someone doesn't have to be responisble for their crimes? IF TRT wins do you really think Thaksin will be fairly investigated?

There are farangs who have citizenship. The owner of the minor group is an example and there are plenty of non-white foreigners who visit the demonstrations. In addition I have heard the TRT stagemasters spouting off garbage about how farangs think this and that in support of their side. It's better to have a farang saying what he feels rather than some Thai person speaking for them.

But as Brit says there are risks. The strangest thing is I haven't recieved any warnign emails from my embassy saying not to go near the protests. They sent one a month or so ago.

Like I posted in another place. There seems to be a lot of empty billboards around BKK. Does that say anything? Thaksin selling his shares now might mean something. Why would he want to sell them when they are low? Of course he wants to sell them before he gets out of office to as in while he is in office he has influence on things. Who knows?

Off hand, know of at least ten former TRT voters who have turned against Thaksin. Why did they turn? They changed after getting information that isn't available through traditional channels. They wouldn't have turned on Thaksin if they didn't hear for themselves what the protesters were saying. Most Thais still haven't heard what the protesters are saying. Give the masses the truth and they will want change.

So any democratic ruler can do what he wants?

Brit you do know that the people in the countryside don't know anything about the allegations against Thaksin, right?

So you basically want people that know nothing of the allegations against Thaksin to vote and you think that's a good example of democracy?

Democracy is more than people picking a name. It's about having information and making a choice. The people in the countryside who have no sources of alternative information which isn't controlled by the government really aren't getting the whole story. We don't even have the whole story.

When the allegations against Thaksin are sincerely addressed by an objective panel with free access to all information necessary to make a decision as to whether there has been an abuse of power the whole truth will come out.

The TRT - Thaksin story is about :

Censorship

Corruption

Censorship

Corruption

Censorship

Corruption

and so on

Oh you can mix in cronyism and nepotism with that

Of course millions of Thais believe allegations.

As the TRT controls so much the government, its judiciary and its other departments they refuse to address the allegations of corruption openly and in many cases at all.

It's too bad information just isn't there. There's no real open talk on radio or TV in Thailand. That eliminates a lot of knowledge that could get to the people. The anti-thaksin people have to get up and go to the countryside to inform the people there what this is all about. They plan to form what I heard a week ago. The TRT plans to print up 500,000 VCDs or CDs to send their message to the countryside. Why? Are they afraid of something? Oh, what a wicked web the TRT weaves as it practices to decieve. hel_l,it's well beyond practicing! Mafia.

Thai lawyers and judges fit the international stereotype as being greedy but here I'd say they're ready to be corrupt from their early training.

If you want to succeed in Law in Thailand you must accept that paying your way up to the top is the way it is. It makes me sick.

Lampard, why don't organize a Surin Cheerleading squad and put some pics up. Or at least the Farangconnection Cheer Girls!