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So let me get into this...I was at a soi bukhao book cafe last week talking to a few guys sitting there and we were all talking about haggling & negotiation The topic came about people such as waitress using "sympathy" & guiltness skills to get more tips. I spoke about a few years ago a waitress at a fish n chip restaurant in jomtien kept telling me loudly how she didn't have much salary ( all said in front of her farang boss who was listening attentionly and watching ) and she had 3 kids etc and just asking me as she was serving me can I please tip her . I had to reply back I will if her service is good to which she replied .."how much you tip me?? Now at the end of my meal she wasn't much special service but as I went to pay I saw her farang boss sticking his neck out from the kitchen to look how much I was giving her all planned . Now talking to the guys at the cafe about this a Scottish guy said to me ...you must be bloody stupid, Not this little black duck ! She would of got my long bloody Scottish pockets !! So the psyche of that guy is...he is not a push over ! Not this little black duck he says ! So...are you a pushover or just sympathetic...are U made to feel guilty in giving tips or even in negotiations... Would you feel guilty in negotiating a driver say to the Bangkok airport?

Ok .. I found out that in Asia you either learn to haggle & negotiate or you can fail First how is your haggling skills? Are you able to be sent to the market & haggle say over a t shirt or you aren't that way inclined? Now give you this scenario over ... You order a car/taxi to pick you up from the airport,you already agreed on a price , say 1300 baht for arguments sake to pattaya.,you negotiation with this with the car company before You arrive at the airport,you wait at the baggage area for 45 minutes waiting for your suitcase, in the meantime the taxi driver is waiting for you in the arrivals and has been there for over a hour . You finally pick up your bag and head in out to meet him, he is happy& jovial and helps carry your bags to the car. He doesn't mention or complain about it at all during the ride . Now if he doesn't say anything about extra payment at the end of the trip ,do you offer more ,if he does say he wants extra do you offer more or negotiate or just walk off happy you didn't have to pay extra ! Do U feel guilty about that ? Second scenario which apparently works more because people get guilty is this, You come out of the baggage area ,the driver is either angry or starts telling you how long he is waited for you and makes you feel guilty. He says he needs half more around 500 baht, because his either angry attitude OR attitude with sadness saying he has missed out on fares and has 25 kids to support etc ,does that make you feel guilty ..do you just pay the 500 extra ,decline or negotiate it? Are you able to haggle or negotiate or you just give him the 500 or even more !!! I want to know what kind of person you are . You see another example,last week I'm travelling with a friend in the Philippines,the GRAB driver is a very good talker didn't even help with our bags etc ..BUT my friend is practically in love with him on our 25 minute trip because the guy had personality. So he tips him. But doesn't have any cash left to tip the bellboy who carried out bags up...now today I tipped the room cleaners in my hotel,why ? Because there is a benefit to me Sure I will tip the grab driver maybe 20 baht....but there's more benefit to me to tip the cleaners for more water or to the hotel reception... because I may need something I work out people by their tipping.. haggling and negotiation skills Can you easily be made to feel guilty to tip more ? Yes ..there's a art to that !!! I'm just wondering your psyche...so if your haggling in a markets over say t shirts ...are you the type of person who can do that ? Also I heard this goes on....a go go bar owner told me....I'm wondering these people psyche though...in the low season they actually get people turning up at a go go bar and negotiate over the drink price I admire people who have no qualms with haggling & negotiation They don't feel guilty over taking more , do you ?

I'm sure they must swim all day in that bloody swimming pool. I go out during the day but if I can't see near the pool,I try to sit on the hotel balcony but it's only like 2 storey up so they stop swimming in the pool and stare at you sitting on the balcony !

I'm in hotel room now ,balcony door open,I looked over to see them all stop and look up at me,so I came back inside They are very noisy and it seems no one is allowed around them because of "minors" Why do they come to Pattaya if they're so worried about their kids ???

Strange I know,I was in a bar yesterday in Soi Buckhao,I actually berated a American guy who was waffling on about the "pedophiles" in gay places like jomtien complex etc. He was talking about how he seen older men with younger guys,yes all legal age !!

So yesterday afternoon in the hotel I'm staying at here in Thailand, I walked down to the pool area to sit in the shade on a banana bed. On arriving I saw a family of a couple and their children, a couple ,husband maybe in his 40's and their I presume 4 children, 2 boys around 10yo & 2 girls a little bit older, seemed to be from the UK,heavily tattoed I noticed So on arriving I just caught the tail end of a conversation the British man was having with a younger farang man who were sitting nearby. This is what I heard " no mate , we can't have it here we have kids mate,so off you go ! I automatically thought these he was smoking told them not him not do it in front of his kids so he left without a fight to the older British guy who was using hand sweeping motions to guide the Farang to the pool exit but of course I found out later that be the was single farang the lady mother didn't want him nearby So I sat down on the other side of the pool,only them & me were at the pool side , for some reason their kids decided to come around my side ,I'm laying in the banana chair shade ,and then they started jumping & diving in the pool splashing water over me, I looked up to see the British tattoed guy sitting on the other side staring straight at me. I continued to lay there until the kids diving in water got over me so I moved further back and fully clothed into the sun. Next thing the kids are running around my banana chair chasing each other And the parents of course didn't seem to care . So I got up ready to leave, when I heard the fat tattoed wife approach, as I was leaving and walking off she said words to me to the point , " there is minors here ",you can't sit there . Silly me for some reason,I guess I didn't want a argument just left without another word. But just about 2 hours ago I'm on the hotel balcony which overlooks the swimming pool when I look down to see the same family arguing with a older East European guy ,who was lounging in his briefs , the lady is saying the same thing to him with her British thug husband also appeared to be arguing about she was saying ,there's minors here !!! Now as I walk thru the hotel lobby he & her are talking to I presume the hotel manager about " pedephiles" Now my point is where can we draw the line at being single males and being pointed as some pedophile because a group of minors in their words are playing nearby? I recall about 5 years ago in Australia a guy went to his local park to eat his lunch and school children were nearby and he was asked to leave by a council ranger because the teachers complain even though it's a public park. The second story I read last week was a Japanese tourist was being looked for by police in the blue mountains of Sydney because he had allegedly approached a 14yo boy to ask for directions? So where do you draw the line of being accused of being a pedophile?

Today I was in the blind massage shop when I heard a farang next curtain cubicle let out a large sounding fart . It was the funniest thing I heard as my masseur and even his ran out ,I could hear him apologise profusely. The most funniest thing was the supposedly blind masseur who had been led into my cubicle arm in arm on arrival ,then unusually ran off without assistance once the old guy in the next curtained cubicle farted !!!

Stayed in Davao a week, lack of footpaths, extreme traffic, and basically only shopping malls and American fast food chains ,nothing to retire there for

Many expats now explore Vietnam as a retirement destination

I would say Vietnam is now the third

I would say cheaper,I see the Korean have a lot of bars here in Angeles city so I imagine the prices are not cheap, I didn't participate so can't say but I heard its around 5000 pesos

And be advised to get a gun. I went to the boon as you call it, to visit my girls parents,all have guns

Its all shopping malls and American fast food. As for Angeles City I'm here now seems to be a lot of Korean writing everywhere ,no footpaths, western prices , beeep beep traffic , I want to go back to Thailand this week I'm getting out ,as for the girls I looked at last night I think they must of opened up the senior citizens homes and bussed them into the go go bar job, couldn't help to stare at one bar where I'm sure no go go girl was under 40 ! They all seem to be old women working They have no prices for drinks advertised so I wasn't going to go in and pay like 500 pesos for a glass of cica cola

Its made me appreciate Thailand. Anyone anyone here who complains about that Thailand I will pay your ticket here to Manila and drop you off at the airport and you can deal with the taxi touts demanding triple the prices to your hotel. You would not last a week here in Manila or Cebu you were be bored out if your mind not to mention dealing with agressive beggars I have no idea with farangs who write about fascination with Cebu It's no beach paradise ,it's a rubbish strewn city with modern shopping malls and not pedestrian friendly, what can you do there all day? Sit at a shopping mall

I'm in Angeles City and ready to leave now it's bloody boring, one street not even big with about 12 go Go bars with full of girls all seem to be over 30 even in their 40's working. ,there is a lot of farangs here but they look different from our Thailand farangs These are weird looking types I walked the walking street here last night it's full of Korean go Go bars and it's a small street compared to Thailand. Traffic everywhere beeping horns , Beep beep beep as you have to run and dodge traffic,beep beep beep Then small kids trying to pick your pockets then getting tattooed Filipinos trying to push past you Please please let me leave

My search began last year for a retirement destination. Pattaya was my number 1 choice. I met a Filipino girl in my home country and we decided to visit the Philippines. I have been here 1 month and the place is a Sh***hole Extremely crowded , full of shopping malls, extreme traffic,no footpaths . I think Cebu was the worst, no beaches ,no footpaths, crazy traffic, experience compared to Thailand,how could I live there ? Hotels here are expensive compared to Bangkok, you looking at nearly double ,rubbish strewn all over streets Small kids grabbing your pockets as your walking, hardly a paradise No footpaths ,you have to dodge traffic everytime As for Manila the SkyTrain you can't even fit on that and when you do they look at you angry ,young tattooed males angry at something Compared to Thailand this place is expensive, small roll on deoderants at 80 pesos, things look more expensive than 711 Thailan Please release me back to Thailand,I promised I will never say anything bad about the land of smiles again after being in this place !

I guess not everyone can afford to tip though, some people save a year to o go on a holiday ,they might work in a factory in the UK or Australia working Monday to Friday on basic wages so they can't afford to tip everyone

You don't tip at all then??

Costs 1200 including today ,Mike's taxi service

Guys I just traveling today on a plane to another Asian country won't say where just yet until I check it out And lo & behold right in the middle seat next to me was a fat young Filipino guy ,kept saying excuse me to me ,he is the one overloaded into my seat but he seemed aggressive type so I held back saying anything to him, but this was economy and 3 seats per row and there was some fatties in there !! And I don't mean chubby,one guy they had to move ,I felt sorry for him though he was very obese

I have a nephew in his early 20's currently travelling Asia and I was chatting to him in this WhatsApp telling I got breakfast in Pattaya for 99 baht etc. He asked for pics of the breakfast? Now I see his Instagram he has pics and videos of everything in regards his holiday and posts on this Facebook Instagram etc. Now I must be old because it doesn't occur to me to take pics of my meals, my transport, my daily life in holiday,ok I might take pics of a tourist thing but I don't pics like these younger generation of everything , meals out, selfies of standing on a rock ledge or whatever, it's weird ? He even has videos on Facebook and his friends all same age group travel on a bus in Phuket etc, Now I have to ask,am I too old and think this is immature?,or do you are your age take selfies, do you picture your restaurant cafe meals, do you take pics of your transport etc ? Ok I know these young people probably do this because they post on this Facebook Now strange thing is , himself and his friends teenage s 18/19 start doing tik tok dancing in front of girlie bars in Phuket and no one said anything in fact the girls joined in,years ago they would of got told to leave in no uncertain terms !!!! But now it seems normal to this young generation who must video everything Its crazy because I think it's our gen (over 50) who are scared of cameras in places like Phuket Pattaya , I remember once about 10 years go talking on a video phone in touch m and farang my age was sitting at the back of me complain he could be seen. Nowadays many would tell him he is not caught up with life

I guess so but your responsibility is to fit in that seat

I hope my post doesn't come across as being humiliating to obese people because that's not my intention. I'm mainly just trying to find out the "average" bigger person perspective on how they manage economy, especially on some of these Asian carriers where the seats are 16.5 I think. As for premium economy ,not every flight has that class . I guess you can always buy 2 seats ,it can sometimes work out cheaper than business , sometimes.

Guys I will just get to the point here . If your a larger type bloke, I don't mean morbidity obese ,but maybe tall or big shoulders or even big belly ,how on earth do you manage to travel in economy class airfares ? Don't you feel embarrassed walking into the plane knowing you will provide discomfort for someone next to you ? I'm going to be honest here, I pay more to fly business class ,I don't want to but I have to. I'm not obese but I'm big build ,so rather than discomfort others I pay more I often wonder when I see obese big belly farangs in Pattaya how they can travel in economy? Can you all advise how you do it? Your not embarrassed?

Hi guys Just a quick question I need luggage storage,somewhere in Pattaya , preferably near jomtien to store a suitcase Thanks guys