jbowman1993

Since the redesign of the BKK Post's new website, the user comments have been prominently moved to the bottom of each news announcement or article. After making a comment, a message informs you that messages may be edited or detailed if found to be innappropriate, and that messages must be approved before being posted.

In actuality, all messages are posted immediately, and I have yet to see any sort of moderation. Moreover, there appears to be more ill will and vindictiveness in one page of those comments then in a day's worth of postings on TV (and that is saying something).

Are others getting the same impression?

... it is obvious that the average Thai is just about unable to produce logic, efficiency, forethought or consider the consequences of their (or others) actions, and to the large part, show signs of any form of awareness (of self or others).

If anyone hasn't read Working with the Thais, by Harry Holmes, it is a great insight into the though processes and cultural influences that direct Thais and their "Norm" behavior in the workplace.

That being said, the blanket statement quoted above reveals much more about the OP than it does about any "supposed well-reasoned" comments on the Thai people.

How long until Wedlock gets banned for being a tosser...

Discuss

I love the way everyone relates my initial statement to their own life experiences and relationships, giving me a sobering and painful look at the harshness of humanity for the less intelligent and wealthy.

LOL - are you really this much of a prick?

Whats the worst that could happen and what is most likely to occur.

Thanks for the responses

The worst - the cop shows up at your door with a couple of friends, ties you up, and beat the living crap out of you, before taking out a 9mm and popping a cap in your ass.

Most likely - nothing, except you will remain as Mr. Taxexile stated above - a human being leaking anger and resentment from every pore and that no matter how many times you are stopped by the police , and no matter how many times you dont pay the fines for doing illegal u-turns you will end up a lonely and nasty old man.

Why is the defendant not wearing an orange prison uniform and shackles? Why the preferential treatment?

The words "Out on Bail" spring to mind. Lesson of this and many other articles. Don't kill people....Apparently a lesson to hard for some.

What we need is more "Mindless (i think you meant to say)" applause for the fact that we now have a halfway smart person in the PM position, who is not facing jail time (i.e. convicted felons Samak and Thakin) or indictments for past and present misdeeds (Somchai). The TV red shirts have yet to propose their better alternative that would be palatable to the majority of the MPs....Charlerm, Sanoh, Chaiya, Pracha, or how about Jakracrap, Noppadon't, or Pokemon? This is why they lost. None of those bozos could carry Abhisit's intellectual jock strap, and all as corrupt as the day is long.

This loss will probably be the best thing that could have happened for Puea Thai, in all seriousness. They'll have to learn how to act properly in an opposition role, perhaps bring in some fresh faces with new ideas to revitalize their image (which they'll need when Thaksin's money dries up). Then maybe we'll have a couple of decent political parties who can serve as each others foil.

One set of rules for the rich and another for the poor. Civil War within 2 years. It's Cambodia all over again. Viva La Revolution.

A post this stupid deserves a round of applause.

My last post on here until we are at the stage of corruption charges, when I shall return to remind all these brainwashed people of what they said and how they supported it all to happen, so blindly.

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Anyway, no more posts from me, thats it, I am not going to continue to be dragged down by the stupid people on here, when the corruption charges are flying against the new government I will come back with lots of I told you so, to make up for not posting now :jerk:

Enjoy

Wow, good news like this deserves more than a round of applause...

:D

One set of rules for the rich and another for the poor. Civil War within 2 years. It's Cambodia all over again. Viva La Revolution.

A post this stupid deserves a round of applause.

Looks like the ole red shirts have been outmanouvered here. They wont get the violence they need. The policy statement will be made. The government will move on. Without Newin the red shirts also will struggle to get the numbers they need.

Abhisit has chosen a very clever and careful tact. Avoid confrontation and violence and appear utterly reasonable while the red shirts havent even gioven the government a grace period to prove their intentions which is something the yellow did. Tactically the red shirts need to back away from this appearance of unreasonbleness which is losing them the democratic high ground rapidly. In fact it makes them look like puppets for Thaksin's interests.

That Thai TV is carrying the statement on many channels also shows the government are in control, strong and have legitimacy.

Another problem for the red shirts is everything that they criticsed about PAD tactics and quite rightly in many cases is now all they have to resort to. Their controllers will need to think long and hard if they arent to appear as luntaic as the PAD finally did.

Edted to add: it is good to see the statement moved to avoid confrontation. This is what many said should have been done last time around. It is good to see that lessons have been learned.

Good decision by the government, and the UDD will quickly run out of steam, especially with the 5 day holiday coming. To many red shirts need to drink and drive with their children loaded in the back of the pick up, and they can't miss that for a silly old protest.

Abhisit will be a great PM, and will give the country a shove in the right direction. Puea Thai is a joke. They were a joke as the ruling party (PPP - 2 failed governments in less than 12 months) and they are a joke as the opposition (not showing up, encouraging demonstrations, can't even pick a leader for Pete's sake, etc). Losing gracefully with dignity intact is a skill that their parents never taught them apparently.

Happy New Year to all, and Chok Dee Bee Mai to PM Abhisit.

So let's keep things in perspective. This isn't about Thaksin anymore (and probably never really was) :D :D

As long as Thailand has great food, cheap hotels, cheap booze, cheap "companions" and huge amounts of sunshine there will be tourists to enjoy them... Its the law of supply and demand.

I post it as I see it.

I don't live in a Pro-Thaksin province and I only lost a little in the 1997 crisis in stock market. Khun Thaksin did not control my thoughts. ....

To answer your question, I don't read every single link from internet and I don't trust what Abhisit is saying publicly......

Now only you and I are talking here, you can stop quoting my whole post when you reply (if you still have the desire to argue).

Well Koo I was sp-ecifically having a dialog with you in this thread since so few others

decided to join in. I HAD hoped that you would at least read the links I provided

SPECIFICALLY for YOUR benefit, so thjat you could see things from a different perspective.

Not that that would change your mindset, but that an INFORMED mind can make it's own decisions.

It's not like I have been acting cruel towards you. No flames, just reasoning.

But it seems you decided to ignore direct quotes from the IMF with full page citations.

This was not a blogger like Bangkok Pundit's opinions, or a corporate love fest,

but direct from the source information from an international organization trying

to eradicate poverty world wide. That you choose not to read further is your right,

but it makes it impossible to have an true open dialog when you refuse to look at

anything at odds with your pre-existing opinions.

Argue

–verb (used without object)

1. to present reasons for or against a thing: He argued in favor of capital punishment.

2. to contend in oral disagreement; dispute: The Senator argued with the President about the new tax bill.

–verb (used with object)

3. to state the reasons for or against: The lawyers argued the case.

4. to maintain in reasoning: to argue that the news report must be wrong.

5. to persuade, drive, etc., by reasoning: to argue someone out of a plan.

6. to show; prove; imply; indicate: His clothes argue poverty.

These are the tacks I have used in this discussion.

But if you choose not to look at information that is not what you previously believed as truth,

then there is no point of discussion. I have provided you ample evidence for my points.

But you choose not to read it....

Or you could just put him on your "ignore" list Ani...thats what I did a long time again lol!

Forgive me for re-posting this from another thread but since the topic is essentially the same I think the response is still appropriate. I did not see Abhisit in the Al Jazeera interview but I did see him in the BBC interview and have also seen clips of his speech at the FCCT a year or so ago while he was still governor of Bangkok. Abhisit (current PM) and Apirak (Former BKK Governor) are not the same person.

I'm not impressed. While I do not necessarily dislike him as a person, I very much dislike they way he gained the PM office. Rounding up support from elected MP's as stipulated by the constitution is a hard pill to swallow, especially when the alternative was a cop with virtually no experience or credentials (i.e. Pracha)..

He is clearly intelligent and well educated but he seems to possess almost no leadership qualities and has yet to lay out any political platform or specific agenda for addressing the country's many problems. the government has scheduled a policy statement parliamentary debate for next Monday and Tuesday. For my part, i consider intelligence and good education to be qualities desirable in a leader, but that's just me

His Cabinet appointments where done in typical party apportioned fashion and it looks like the same old Thai politics as usual. This is Thailand, it would stand to reason that Thai politics will be the way things get done (or don't get done). Not doing it this way would mean PTP and Pracha would be in charge, and the Yellow shirts would still be in the airport, and a good chance the military would have been forced in intervene

What Thailand needs right now is an outspoken leader (do we really? Samak and Thaksin weren't enough for you? Outspoken as a leadership quality is vastly overrated) who will go on national television and eloquently address the entire nation concentrating on reconciliation and attempt to dispel the fear, anger and resentment of the disenfranchised northerners and northeasterners. Sounds very much like what Abhisit did last Wednesday after receiving royal endorsement. Very eloquent speech in both Thai and English calling for "reconciliation and unity"

Unfortunately, I don't think Abhisit is up to the task. Time will tell, and he deserves some time

He appears much too sheepish and my guess is that he will soon retreat from the cameras as much as possible and not step up and seriously attempt to fix the many problems which plague the country. I think you're wrong on this count. When have politicians ever been camera shy (unless its Samak hiding out in the toilet) Again, time will tell

Couple these weaknesses with the multitudes of red shirted masses who will continue to despise him until he at least tries to connect with them You mean by embracing policies that help rural people, as announced by the government yesterday (one of the few things that Thaksin actually did well, sans the horrible corruption each program was plagued with)

and I'm afraid the outlook for his political future and Thailand's stability as a whole is not good For my part, things have seemed a lot more stable in the past week. World leaders applauding a resolution to the standoff, airport opened, new group in change. I hope he proves me wrong. It's time for the country to start moving forward again. On this we are in complete and total agreement

Neighbors have a maid who has never heard of common courtesy or respect for the people around her. She walks around houses, looking in and giving dirty looks. She lets their dog shit everywhere and bark from 7 in the morning to nighttime nonstop. I want to see her burn.

The problem is that I doubt that she has a work permit though she might. Should I call the cops anyways?

The "I want to see her burn" comment speaks volumes about your character and class, by the way...

Nobody with any sense want's Thaksin to come back. Better that he just fade away in his Zimbabwe penthouse, sharing drinks with Mugabe and friends...

Karma, Pure and Simple...

LaoPo --

Did you in fact fail to ever look at the numbers of people that voted, who they voted for etc? Obviously the current coalition government represents the majority. The PPP didn't have a majority on its own either ...

Don't bother LaoPo with semantics...

Looks like Henry is the next to go on the "ignored users" list, for his annoying propensity to quote massive amounts of text that make me scroll and scroll and scroll...bye bye Henry

Henry, quoting 4 full screens of previous posts is ridiculous...

As a farang you are alwways wrong in case of a accident, at least the police say so.

I would say my OP just served to discount your statement. But reading can be such a bother sometimes...

Glad to see it worked out for you jbowman1993

A question...did you need to show your passport to the police or insurance guy? The reason i ask is because in my other post I am asking whether my Thai licence has become invalid with a change in Passport and Visa numbers (renewals) and whether insurance companies could use that against me in an accident. If no one took any notice of your passport, then I would assume it's not an issue..

I don' t need to show my passport. I just show them my Mahidol University ID (i.e. Get out of jail free card) and thats all it takes, every time.

Hey Blackion - You should forget about it. You are living proof of Barnum's famous quote.

Some decent names on the list, and a few that have academics decrying "money politics". I do wish that we could have some kind of political reform to take big money out of politics and government, but hel_l, they can't even do that in the US or most other "western" countries. Not much hope for change in Thailand in the near future.

I hold hope that Abhisit will make sure people do their jobs, and only steal within reason (lol). One of the telling things about his good qualities was the admission that his picks were not ideal. Nice to hear that - a breath of fresh air (on a foul subject) for a change!

Well in USA they don't even try....

In Austria we don't have (many) people with influence of big money in politic. Result: Having people leading the country which wouldn't be branch manager of a 7/11 in real life--complete idiots--

Why should a smart, honest person go into politics if he can make more money in an other business easier?

In the USA they don't even try? What are you talking about?

Re: Why would a smart, honest person go into politics? The naive for the purpose of improving the system. The others enter politics for one reason - Power.

How many million does an election cost? How are the chances that an unknown party without money ever gets in parliament? How are the chances that an unknown guy get president? You would need a law which gives everyone the same time in TV without payment and ban every paid promotion. That's not possible in the real world but that's the only way to give equal chances.

The other thing I agree: The naive for improving the system (they fail because too naive). Some believer with a mission (religion, communism, the German domination whatever). The rest for power and/or money. Or if they simply to stupid for any other job.

Solutions??? I don't know....

In the US we do not have parliament.

Concerning money, Obama definitely raised the bar when it comes to raising funds to support a a campaign. However, you are incorrect about an unknown being unable to win public office via election. It happened in Minnesota when a former US Navy Seal by the name of Jesse Ventura became Governor. Furthermore, his party was the 'Reform Party' (not one of the major two that have always been in power). Lastly, passage of the Shays-Meehan and McCain-Feingold legislation banning soft money and making other changes to campaign finance law in effect created a situation wherein McCain cut his own throat. Obama initially agreed to comply, and then later recanted.

Two inaccurate statements here

1) Ventura was an "unknown" political commodity, but he was quite well known as a former professional wrestler and B Movie Actor. That fact gave him a lot of press coverage, both positive and negative, and he spun it into an election win

2) Your statement seems to suggest that Obama broke some sort of campaign finance law. He did no such thing. He did change his mind on receiving public funding, choosing to instead to use money from donors only. Certainly not illegal to do so, and he broke no US Laws with his decision.

Some decent names on the list, and a few that have academics decrying "money politics". I do wish that we could have some kind of political reform to take big money out of politics and government, but hel_l, they can't even do that in the US or most other "western" countries. Not much hope for change in Thailand in the near future.

I hold hope that Abhisit will make sure people do their jobs, and only steal within reason (lol). One of the telling things about his good qualities was the admission that his picks were not ideal. Nice to hear that - a breath of fresh air (on a foul subject) for a change!