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In these administrative detentions by the IDF, there is no proceeding with an accusation and presentation of evidence, so there's no avenue for appeal. It's of course regarded as illegal under international law, but Israel acts with impunity. As for ICC, I cited the Putin case to show that what you said is incorrect. As regards Israel in the occupied territories, it's permission is not required for its bad actors, including Netanyahu, to be indicted by the ICC. The cases against Israel will move forward when international opprobrium reaches a point where the ICC prosecutor risks becoming an anathema to the UN system. Action by the ICC would add to the momentum for a just peace, where the sovereignty of a Palestinian state would remove the root factors which led to the birth of Hamas and the continuing relevance of its ideology (whether or not Hamas continues to exist as a formal entity).

No terrorists in (bomb)sight.

These leaders on both sides from 1947 on bear ultimate responsibility for acts committed in total violation of the 10 Commandments. In the end, the only peace possible will be one imposed by the international community after the US ends up isolated from not only the Global South, but most of the G7 nations. The last holdout there will probably be the UK, which bears historical responsibility for the current mess.

Still waiting for real evidence that Hamas was using hospitals for military bases.

I looked at the link, and don't see any countering, unless you mean a denial by Jonathan Conricus, blaming the victims pap. The link in question: https://www.businessinsider.com/israel-using-big-bombs-weighing-1-000-to-2-000-pounds-gaza-report-2023-11?r=US&IR=T

I just remember "Swiss cheese" from leaks at the time (2000). There were three cantons proposed, not including East Jerusalem. See sections 'Territorial contiguity' and 'East Jerusalem' in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Camp_David_Summit The proposal on the table wasn't acceptable to the Palestinians, so then the White House put forth the Clinton Parameters to bridge the gaps. Israel issued 20 pages of reservations. Idem: 'Aftermath' Arafat was feeling responsible not only to his own people, but to all Muslims, so the Jerusalem provisions were crucial in the failure of Camp David. IMO.

At least there should be the possibility of overriding a veto, or limiting the ability to veto when the country wanting to veto is tne cause of the resolution. I wonder whether any historian has made a thorough study of the twists and turns in the drafting of the UN Charter.

Maybe it takes someone to appeal a judgement for the Israeli Supreme Court to act. The military invetigating itself does not lead to a verdict in the case of military bad actors. Concerning the murder of Shireen Abu Akleh, there is abundant evidence for it, i.e. prima facie. It's a prime example of IDF impunity. Now you divert to captive Palestinians. Those under administrative detention, now 1300 people, can be held up to 20 years without knowing why the are held, with no means of challenging their detention in court. So no way to appeal to the Israeli Supreme Court. As for your claim about ICC, it has indicted Vladimir Putin. It did not need Russia's permission to do so. The occupied territories are covered by the Rome Statute since 1 January 2015. I don't know whether prior war crimes, etc, could be prosecuted, but many activities are ongoing, so acts previous to 2015, such as the settlements, would nonetheless be covered IMO. https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/icc-has-jurisdiction-over-palestinian-territories/2135545 The US in particular has been very active in attempting to undermine the ICC regarding Israel: https://arabcenterdc.org/resource/the-international-criminal-courts-failure-to-hold-israel-accountable/

Maybe the problem is that military law inherited from the British applies to Palestinians in the West Bank, so when war crimes happen, the military investigates itself with predictable outcome, even when there is video evidence. The murder of Shireen Abu Akleh, a Palestinian-American journalist, has been referred to the ICC, which has jurisdiction in the West Bank (and Gaza).

You should know that "advanced warning" is the IAF practice of sending/dropping a small munition on a building to tell people to get out before the big one that levels the building. In previous wars on Gaza, the figures issued by the Gaza Health Ministry correlated with what was determined afterwards by UN et al. The lists of dead persons have names and other identity info, so not just a body count. The actual death toll may not be known for some time since people are buried under the rubble of pancaked buildings. The Palestinians were facing a quandary with the Abraham Accords, of which one objective was to circumvent them in negotiations regarding their fate. The attack on the kibbutzes was the fateful result.

The two-state solution in 2000 was rejected by Arafat because it would have left too many settlements in place in the interior of the West Bank, so called "Swiss cheese". In the last two years, and especially after October 7th, the wanton behaviour of settlers with connaivance of IDF shows that Arafat was correct to refuse that offer. It shows that the Greater Israel settlers cannot remain in the West Bank for a workable two-state solution. The one thing that will defuse Hamas resistance is this workable two-state solution, where the Palestinians will have a bonafide sovereign state.

Not true. These Thai and other foreign hostages were returned without corresponding release of Palestinian prisoners.

About ICC, a part of the Rome Statute provides exemption from an ICC action if the country will take action itself. This was intended to make the treaty more palatable to the US. Until now, and since the Palestinians gained the UN status to be a party to the Rome Statute, Israeli persons have not so far been indicted, but I think that now it's only a matter of time.

I think that he was responding to the indiscriminate bombing - no advanced warning - with a tonnage and intensity unknown in this millenium, anyway. Note the high rate of children killed.

WHile I agree with all you say, Russia and China are beginning to rival the US in using the veto. It's definitely time to curb abuse of the SC veto.

I am for a workable two-state solution.

Maybe you just don't know about it. "Since 2016, Israeli authorities have held Abed’s corpse in postmortem detention after Abed orchestrated a bus bombing in Jerusalem. He is one of at least 370 dead Palestinians whose bodies Israel’s military are keeping frozen in morgues or buried at undisclosed locations." https://www.thenation.com/article/world/israel-postmortem-detention/

Two more Thais were released. Islamic Jihad just said that they have some of the hostages.

He was Israel's UN ambassador. He's been interviewed on BBC HardTalk, and got an op-ed piece in the Wall Street Journal. His agenda is shared by others in the Israeli cabinet, but Nakba 2 is not something that the Israeli government wants to publicize. The operation to make northern Gaza unlivable could be a prelude to seizing that part of Gaza despite Biden's objections. That would also make a connection longer between the two parts of a future Palestinian state. The Greater Israel faction (including Netanyahu) does not want to see such a state anywhere between the River and the Sea.

Some were in prison quite a while. By the way, if one dies in prison, body is not returned until sentence is finished. I'm not sure what happens to those with multiple life sentences.

And the settlers will not stop with their "from the river to the sea" unless the world stops them. For that, some major countries of the EU would have to rethink their policy.

There could be some reason, such as they are dead from an air strike, and the bodies are buried in rubble. Or they are held in a different area or by Islamic Jihad.

How could you be unaware of what is happening in the West Bank: Drone attacks, nightly raids, bulldozers tearing up streets in the refugee camps to destroy utilities, all courtesy of IDF.

This reminds me of the Dany Danon op-ed in the Wall Street Journal where he proposed that the world take in the Gazans. Then Gaza would be free for all settler colonial Orthodox to enter!!

While Israel would like every potential opponent to be disabled, with Iran the US would not want to go beyond the sanctions route.