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Has she applied on expatvac for her first jab of Pfizer?

All politicians prefer symbolism to substance ... Queen Elizabeth sails thru the Sth China Sea (wow!), UK applies for dialogue with ASEAN (that'll make a difference!), UK wants to be a member of the Trans-Pacific Partnership (presumably on the ground that the Falklands aren't that far away) ...

Anti-vaxers are a self-reducing problem.

1 hour ago, Nojohndoe said:

Made where? It has been nobbled in the US. Funding "paused" . Was being produced in same site as AZ and J&J but  now only making J&J. Contamination issues cited in production . So is J&J somehow not despite being from same plant?

I read something earlier today (here on AN) that said N had passed some initial performance tests IN UK. Further tests to follow.

2 minutes ago, Nojohndoe said:

What I do find interesting is that of the other 250+ vaccines said to be under development many months ago that afaik none have surfaced ? Surely not all are duds?

Novavax is on the way, though I suspect not in Thailand.

1 hour ago, Gsxrnz said:

The elephant in the room is, who the hell are all the pregnant expats?

Ladyboys?

People have to live, preferably fully vaxed.

Is there an alternative?

2 hours ago, Thailand said:

40,000 plus, this seems like a logistical nightmare to organise particularly as there will be multiple venues around the country, staff to be allocated, appointments to be made, vaccine to be distributed etc and Thailand does not have a very good record regarding this type of thing.

Hopefully I am wrong and it will run smoothly but my many years resident here tell me otherwise.

 

 

So what's your alternative?

9 hours ago, bronzedude said:

Beware of an sms sent to verified. It will probably be in the Thai language, so need someone to translate, better have that person available within the 24 hour deadline.

 

Why do you assume that? The registration process was in English ...

Just to cheer everyone up. From today's 'Australian' (in the context of the leader of the Australian Labor Party saying that people should be paid $300 as a reward for getting vaccinated):

33 minutes ago, kwonitoy said:

 

 

I am quite surprised at the low number of people that initially qualify for the first round, me being one of them.

Fingers crossed for next week.

 

 

Yes, it's hard to tell how representative (if at all) these figures are of the wider falang community profile: 3/4 under age 60, and quite small numbers with 'underlying health conditions'.

1 hour ago, grain said:

Well if this is true then we're all foooooked. I'm getting the AZ vax in 2 days time, and now I read this story, so I'm just wasting my damn time driving to BKK to get a vax that is going to give me SFA protection against the next lousy highly infectious vaccine resistant strain coming our way. 

That's probably not accurate. What a new variant MAY mean (but not necessarily) is that the protection you get will be a little less for that variant than the protection you're getting from the previous variant.

With the current Delta variant sweeping the world, the problem is that it's highly infectious but the evidence to date is that the best vaxes (AZ, Pf, Mod) are as effective against it as against the previous variants and even SV gives useful protection.

5 hours ago, hioctane said:

I am unclear if this is a good thing or bad thing.  ????

It has propaganda value from the government's point of view: Politically neutral, looks great in a uniform, noone would dare criticize 'one of our boys' ...  The fact that he usually looks like a kangaroo caught in the headlights is irrelevant.

43 minutes ago, Screaming said:

I am over 70 and in very good health. I am absolutely not going to get an experimental Covid vaccine shot. I will take my chances and if I get Covid, I will build up my immune system to fight it.

And what are you planning to do to protect the people around you or whom you encounter in your daily life? You will be a much greater threat to their health than those who have been fully vaccinated.

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The scope and enforcement of a lockdown protects against spread of infections.

 

Vaccination coverage limits the spread of infections, and saves lives while reducing hospitalizations.

 

At least, on my planet. I have no idea what is happening on yours.

I'm not disagreeing with you. In fact I strongly agree.

I'm merely pointing out that the increase in health outcomes does not increase 1-for-1 with either the increase in lockdown measures or, more importantly, with vaccination coverage. In the latter case the evidence to date suggests that, while it's obviously better to have say 50% of your population fully vaxed rather than say 15%, you don't get the spread of infection under control until you have at least 70% coverage and preferably 80% (the so-called herd effect or population immunity).

So no need to be unpleasant.

54 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

From BKK, I envy you at...the end of the world.

 

In the capital, govt finds it upsetting that people are dying at home. Best place to get born, best for dying, too.

Yes, I have said before that I look forward - one day, not too soon - to dying in my bed here at home, surrounded by my Khmer family.

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Your second point boils down the truism that the heavier the restrictions, the more effective in stopping the spread.

That might be a fair point if the relationship between strength of lockdown & health outcomes were a straight line, but I rather doubt that it is. Any more than the relationship between vaccination coverage and health outcomes.

Even in Thailand it is possible for reality to catch up with self-seeking promises.

Experience in The West shows that Governments have only 2 weapons against the virus.

The only one that seems to work well (but it's early days) is vaccinating at least 70% and preferably 80% of the population.

Meantime - and in badly organized countries that may mean quite a long time - lockdowns have some positive effect, but only if ruthlessly enforced à la chinoise.

8 hours ago, cyril sneer said:

it's all over

No it isn't. Just getting started.