1 hour ago, watso63 said:

A millionaire socialist that's never had a proper job in his life moaning and groaning about rich billionaire's? Not a bad return all thing's considered. Hang up the Hammer and Sickle and go live in your Cuban utopia. Good riddance. 

If you write 2 best selling books, you too can become a millionaire.

3 hours ago, Mavideol said:

the words coming out of his mouth are always the same....  tremendous well, working with big numbers but when asked how many ventilators the US had he turned to Pence for an answer and Pence, after a slight delay/hesitation,  said it's above 10K.... again we can't get a straight answer

There are over 150,000 ventilators in the US with more than 10,00 being emergency rerve. The fear is that there is a surge in need if we fail to flatten the curve of those who become afflicted. Experts predict in that circumstance the need could rise to 960,000 ventilators worst case.

13 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Please. Have you even read his proposals for health care? They go beyond Obamacare. And anybody who thinks that the current problems with Obama aren't due in large measure to how Republcians impeded improvements and Trump has sabotaged it, seems likely to be have a soft spot in his heart for the thug. 

I think if you're on Medicaid it is very good. The one year I was eligible for Medicaid it was the best healthcare insurance I've ever had. Everybody should be on Medicaid. No question Trump is trying to sabotage it though,

Just now, bristolboy said:

What's this nonsense about style. Ya think health care is a matter of style? Ya think being guided by science rather than by quackery and kookery is a matter of style? This is exactly the kind of pop analysis that the worst sort of pundits engage in. The issues are against Trump. 

Joe thinks healthcare is just fine. He and Obama fixed it.

7 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

It's funny. On the one hand you are going to support Biden because you don't want another 4 years of Trump.

On the other you think he's going to need a lot of luck to do it.

Don't you think that most Sanders supporters will ultimately come around to supporting Biden because the alternative is just too awful to contemplate.

Or do you think your case is special?

I wasn't a Sanders supporter this year, but I think I have some insight to their thinking. I would guess many will not support Biden and many will refrain from voting. Some will support Biden and even some smaller amount will support Trump. They really don't see much difference between Trump and Biden.

31 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

So what? Young people don't turn out to vote! Bernie's disastrous primaries proves that yet again. The USA isn't Australia. Turnout is almost everything.

 

Who does turn out to vote? Black women and black women are totally into Uncle Joe Biden.

 

The point is to WIN. The point is to evict the worst president in American history -- 45.

Yeah, but Black women always vote in large numbers for the Democrat candidate so that's already baked in. There aren't more Black women to get after you've got all the Black women.

6 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Actually, it's rather powerful.  "I'm not a lying, corrupt conman looking to line my own pockets and those of my buddies with your tax dollars!"  There's much more of course.  Biden's campaign must be licking their chops at the prospect of going after Trump, with sooooo much material out there.

I guarantee you, if the Democrats run a campaign based on what they are against rather than what they are for (and what they are for better get a lot more progressive quickly) they will lose. Crazy as that possibility might seem right now.

1 minute ago, Berkshire said:

You're in no position to "guarantee" anything.  More like wishful thinking.  Independents and moderates will flock to Biden for one primary reason:  he's not Trump.  No sane and/or rational thinking individual wants four more years of Trump. 

Great platform and vision for America. "Im not Trump".  Might work, but then again, maybe not.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

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Refusal by Pelosi to Consider Universal Cash Payments in Response to Coonavirus Pandemic 'Maddening,' Say Progressives

"This is a total failure of Democratic Party leadership."

 

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/18/refusal-pelosi-consider-universal-cash-payments-response-coronavirus-pandemic?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

5 hours ago, roquefort said:

Why are you obsessed with giving companies to bondholders? Do you hold a lot of corprate bonds?

 

Most peoples' pension funds hold a large proportion of publicly quoted stocks.

I'm not obsessesed with it. It only applies if companies don't have enough money to pay their debt holders and don't meet other covenants agreed upon. I'm sure most pension fund managers have strict criteria to avoid the many many companies that have poor debt to income ratios.

9 minutes ago, zydeco said:

That's already here. Biggest bailouts evah!

We're just getting started:

4 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Nonsense. I remember similar things were said about Clinton's mind. They all proved to be false. Stop with your wishful thinking.  Health care is going to be a huge issue. What have Trumps and the Republicans offered? Vaporware.

Given the very high unemployment rate we are about to experience, I agree, healthcare will loom large. Biden is marginally better on that but still terrible. For my family Trump would be better though I could never vote for him. So my financial calculus is Biden worth the extra $!0k/yr I'm paying for Obamacare. Of course healthcare isn't the only issue.

18 minutes ago, Proboscis said:

But some might say, why keep them in prison which is protected from the virus? Why should they not take their chances with the rest of us outside? Just saying . . . 

In much the same way as a cruise ship.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

That depends on which lives lost you are counting.

True. I was referring to American lives lost.

Shocking number. That is a forecast for possibly more lives lost than in every war America has been in since it was formed.

7 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Absolutely wrong as my post from the IRS shows. If you live outside the USA for at least 330 days per year, then you are entitled to the exclusion under the physical presence test.

330 days is cutting things pretty thin for someone tied to the home office in the states. I would think people in that situation would qualify for the exclusion less oftrn than not.