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8 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

To be fair, I dont think any president is ever prepared for a pandemic. 

A "pandemic" is a viral outbreak, of an unknown strain, etc... 

You cannot prepare for the unknowable

Bureaucracy and federal money distribution have always been a bit slow during emergencies in America I believe

 

Panic serves no purpose, being cautious is absolutely necessary though.  That is up to us, not a president.  We have necessary info from WHO and CDC, and need to follow it. 

 

Peace

 

 

Absolutely, but at the very least you'd expect the president not to gaslight the public with lie upon lie, wouldn't you? Transparent, good faith dissmination of factual information provide in a timely way by professionals. Trump could have come out of this looking like a hero, but his first reaction to anything, always, is to lie. And badly, I would add.

6 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Yall seem to happily jumping on the graves cheering on the death toll. Anyhting that hurts your President is great, yes?

 

 

I'm not interested in hurting the president. In most circumstances, these past 3 years, I haven't regarded him at all. I sort of dismissed him as a flim flam man/grifter when I first saw him back in the early 80's. Nothing he's done since has changed that opinion I have of him. My criticism has to do with how this president hurts the people he is charged to protect and serve.

3 minutes ago, UbonThani said:

Models? Like the dodgy IPCC ones 5555

 

A 103yo woman survived it

 

If it was so bad how come a 103yo woman lived?

 

Something fishy with this con job

Well, the model is only as good as the available data. The government has failed to test Americans in numbers that would allow for more precise modeling. The numbers could be worse, I don't know. When I took computer programming in school decades ago I became familiar with the GIGO principal "garbage in, garbage out".

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

True leadership - 555

 

You gotta feel for any Secret Service agent charged with taking a bullet for that piece of <deleted>.

5 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

Good plan Mr. President. Showing what true leadership is all about. 

MAGA 

His leadership has resulted in a best case scenario model of 165,000 dead. Worst case modeling 10 times higher. Laugh it off.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/487489-worst-case-coronavirus-models-show-massive-us-toll

7 minutes ago, pegman said:

Where is the Cajun general that came in to safe the day in New Orleans after Bush screwed up the hurricane response? 

 

An an excellent accounting of Trump's latest lies:

 

 

People I know here in the states take the right precautions as instructed by CDC professionals. If they have a fear it stems from the perfidy from those meant to protect them from systemic risks. They get to thinking, "Why would they be lying so blatantly? What are they hiding? Just do your job!" Also they'd like to know "what does the 1% that owns 80% of the stock market know, that I',m not being told"?  It's not the virus they're scared of, but the response to it.

35 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

There are two major issues at stake here. One is Corona. Two is the handling of Corona. Many other countries like China, South Korea, have done a good job with containment, and especially with regard to testing. South Korea developed their own test kit in 21 days! In the US, this has been severely bungled from the beginning. First, the administration turned down the emergency funding request from congress, back in early February, saying it was not necessary. Then Trump repeatedly downplayed this, comparing it to the common flu. His repeated denials caused a massive crisis in confidence, that triggered a massive sell off. Had he been smart, and truthful from the beginning, the sell off would have been milder, and $6 trillion dollars would not have been erased from the markets and people's savings. In addition, the US is badly bungling the test kits.

 

I was scheduled to fly back to the US in a weeks time, and was going to return here late April. The US state department is stating that Thailand will require a letter from a US doctor or hospital, stating you have been given a Corona test, been determined to be negative for the virus, and have a generally good bill of health, if the US is elevated to the next level, which it is CERTAIN to be, within a week or two. He told me even though he works at Cedars in LA, one of the top hospitals in the state, they do not have one test kit. They have been requesting them for weeks, and cannot get them. In addition, he said no doctor will write that letter, since they cannot determine if you are in the incubation period, even if you test negative. So, I cancelled my trip. What is the point of risking a mandatory hospital quarantine, if this thing explodes in the US? In addition, the State Dept. website said that Thailand may require you to provide proof of health insurance, at a minimum of $100,000. Does not apply to marriage visas, according to immigration. I called them. 

 

So, again the administration is lying. The test kits may be going out, but nobody knows where they are going, and they do not seem to be going to the major hospitals where they are most needed. Lying Pence, and Lying Trump. Causing a massive public health hazard daily. Cases increased in the US by 450 in the past 30 hours, and 41 deaths to date. Total cases now at 1,762 and climbing. 

Number of Covid 19 tests conducted in US yesterday:  8

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/03/12/mike-pence-coronavirus-response-cdc-testing-sot-newday-vpx.cnn

13 minutes ago, J Town said:

No concern. The Democrats are beyond ridiculous, shooting themselves in the foot again and again. Biden, a gentle fool exhibiting signs of early onset dementia doesn't stand a chance.

Could be, but at least he will be surrounded by technocrats rather than sycophants. Nowhere near perfect but a vast improvement.

Just now, JHolmesJr said:

The media.....clutching at straws yet again...fervently hoping that

Trump gets the virus so they can spin whatever demented fantasy

accusation they have in mind.

I sure hope he doesn't because I'm confident he would dedicate too many healthcare resources on himself that could be put to better use elsewhere.

4 minutes ago, BestB said:

Thank the mass media and it’s scare mongering. 50000 Americans die per year from just a flue.

 

mass media just keeps blasting how many are getting sick, but failing to mention how many recovered or recovering. 
 

 

Oh, they mention it alright, and publish it too. Here's the stats for the state of Washington in the USA.

Stores closing, restaurants closing, soon schools and daycares. People losing shifts to stay home with kids. No more tips that service workers depend on. Healthcare workers about to be overwhelmed. National Guardsmen will be called up soon. No plan put forward to help any on these people but they found $1.5 Trillion today to prop up the stock market. That would pay for 4-5 months of assistance to every American resident @$1,000/mo.

3 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

I mostly like Trump, but I do no think he has done a great job so far with this.

And, he seems low energy and unengaged.  Not sure if he still thinks it is not a big deal, he is sick, or what.

Just not showing much leadership at this point.

Because you can't bullshiit a virus.

Just imagine how the stock market would soar if instead of applying stimulus and bailouts the government had spent the same money in creating reiliant institutions that saw to the well being of the people, who in turn would create the custom enabling markets to prosper. Instead they treat the needs of the populace as an after thought and funnel the money up the steps to the nearest bank and tell you there isn't anything left to help people.