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56 minutes ago, stephenterry said:
I would suggest 98% voted to stay under UK sovereignty is conclusive, while 52% is not. The Tory gov is acting in a less than democratic manner because they fear the backlash from the electorate would be worse than doing what's best for Britain - and that's junking Brexit down the Khazi.
It's all politics, and self interest, never about Britain. They would even row out NI and Scotland if they had to, just to remain (no pun intended) in power. Well, the GE will finish them for good.
"I would suggest 98% voted to stay under UK sovereignty is conclusive, while 52% is not."
I think you are trying to say that 98% of brexit voters did so as their main interest was sovereignty? But I'm not sure, so please make the point clearer.
"The Tory gov is acting in a less than democratic manner because they fear the backlash from the electorate"
More accurately, both the cabinet and MPs are "acting in a less than democratic manner because they fear the backlash from the electorate". Hence the eu/May surrender treaty that only (IMO) failed as the electorate were made aware that it was 'leave in name only'. Depressingly, boris and his ilk decided to support this surrender treaty on the second (?) attempt?
"It's all politics, and self interest, never about Britain."
Agree entirely.
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Far from a 'new tv series' - but happy to see that Netflix are now showing The Big Bang Theory ????.
I wish they'd spend less on coming up with new films/programmes, and more on buying other films. You can pretty much guarantee that when I enter the name of a film/programme I would like to see into the search function- it's not there......
Having said that, they have produced a few wonderful programmes that would never have materialised without their financial backing.
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18 minutes ago, Tug said:
I’d disagree on that I think most agree most are economic migrants that being said all should be respected and shown due process there is no excuse none whatsoever for what’s happening
As there are so many, perhaps a simplified, quicker process is in order?
Having said that, I'm not American so it has nothing to do with me.
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22 minutes ago, yogi100 said:"but for the 21st century to be unable to provide basic hygiene, water and adequate food is inexcusable."
Surely such basics are available where they come from. No responsible person turns up in a foreign country expecting such items to be handed to them on a plate.
Nor would they not expect not to be incarcerated for breaking the laws of the country they've imposed themselves upon.
That's if we even believe such staples are being denied them. Since the arrival of social media we're quickly finding out how many politicians will lie to get attention. And votes.
I think the main problem is that some are convinced that the vast majority are genuine 'asylum seekers', whereas others think that the vast majority are economic migrants.
And never the twain shall meet.
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7 hours ago, usviphotography said:
Those regulations pertain to ships that chance upon vessels in distress. You can't just use them as shield for your human smuggling operation. This was not a ship transporting cargo from Tripoli to Marseille that happened upon some migrants and rescued them. This was a ship whose entire purpose is human trafficking. It travels to prearranged areas off the coast of Libya looking for migrants to pick up and smuggle in to Europe. It has no other cargo or purpose. That is all it does. And because ships like this exist, the market for taking rickety, unseaworthy vessels to the pick up points and hope for a ride is massive. Many of those people make it to the smuggler ships. Others drown. So this ship and this captain not only facilitate human smuggling and an invasion of Europe, but they also facilitate unsafe practices that have led to the drowning of thousands of Africans. From whichever perspective you approach the issue, this woman is a monster.
I agree with most of this, but the captain is not "a monster".
She's an extremely wealthy, likely well-meaning woman who doesn't understand the impact of economic migrants on the poor in European countries, or that this type of 'rescue service' is only encouraging more to risk their lives, in the belief that they will be 'rescued' by the rescue ships.
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30 minutes ago, Basil B said:
I did... that was the exact phrase I used.
Well I can not find it, please post a link...
Entering 'boris next door' into a youtube search definitely brings up a rap song denigrating boris - although it's not clear whether this was posted by the next door neighbours in question.
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Political games at their worst, and most obvious. ☹️
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22 minutes ago, tebee said:
Boris Johnson, 1999.-
“I’m a raving Euro-federalist...a pro-European of the most violent, dyspeptic, and incurable disposition.”
Truly a man for all seasons....
-It wouldn't suprise me if this is true (which is why I don't trust boris as far as I could throw him), but do you have a link to this quote?
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12 minutes ago, fishtank said:
Rubbish.
It is for Parliament to take the best course of action for the good of the country.
Taking back control was the brexit extremist slogan.
"for the good of the country"
Ha ha - but you may possibly believe this?
I'm far more cynical, and believe that politicians are only looking out for their own interests ☹️.
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On 6/29/2019 at 9:42 AM, Cryingdick said:
Is this even the reply from an adult? The USA has way too many migrants to handle at the moment. If they can benefit Canada why not?
I'm inclined to agree.
And then let Canadian politicians deal with the fall out from the electorate of the consequences of overly free immigration policies.
But perhaps the OP is correct, and the Canadian electorate support immigrants with no qualifications being given entry?
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22 minutes ago, sanemax said:
Turns out that the neighbor who called the police had released song called "Boris next door" and this was a publicity stunt
Link please.
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2 hours ago, Vacuum said:Italy has finally come to their sences. If Germany want these 'rocket scientists' so bad, just deport them directly to them.
I agree.
If Germany and France have a problem with this Captain being held for breaking Italy's rules, they should immediately declare that they will take ALL the immigrants 'saved' by these 'rescue' ships - instead of coming out with useless rhetoric.
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9 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:All the decisions you list were made by representatives of those elected by the citizens of their countries in elections open to all.
Exactly, the TINY minority of eu citizens allowed to vote in those decisions....
And yet you have a problem with the tory party electing a new PM?
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"At the beginning of October, if there is no prospect of a deal that can get through parliament"
And therein lies the 'sin by omission' as everyone knows hunt supports remain, as do the vast majority of MPs. They are just looking for a way to sell it to the electorate....
Not that boris is much better in this respect (IMO) - but hunt is desperately trying to 'change his tune' nowadays.
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1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:Not for me it’s not.
The issue is a minority are choosing the country’s next leader.
A man who has threatened to suspend the parliament elected by the majority to get through his interpretation of brexit.
21 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:"The issue is a minority are choosing the country’s next leader."
Have you noticed what is happening re. the 'election' (.....) of top eu leaders?
e.g. the topic "Still no deal on top EU jobs despite all-night haggling"
Edit - I apologise for the over-sized print - I just copied and pasted the topic headline from the thread.
16 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:That system is that the elected representatives of each country chooses the person for that job.
The process ongoing happens for this role, and many other EU positions, after each countries citizens across the EU choose their representatives.
So you only have a problem with "a minority are choosing the country’s next leader", as stated in your original post - until it comes to the eu?
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47 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:Not for me it’s not.
The issue is a minority are choosing the country’s next leader.
A man who has threatened to suspend the parliament elected by the majority to get through his interpretation of brexit.
"The issue is a minority are choosing the country’s next leader."
Have you noticed what is happening re. the 'election' (.....) of top eu leaders?
e.g. the topic "Still no deal on top EU jobs despite all-night haggling"
Edit - I apologise for the over-sized print - I just copied and pasted the topic headline from the thread.
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12 minutes ago, petemoss said:Read your own post. No replies to the facts that I gave, just a barrage of insults. Pots and kettles....
Please point out my "insults" - or are you just being dishonest in an attempt to ignore the point made in my post? ????
I should of course report you for this deliberate lie, but it's probably better to let posters see the depths to which you are willing to descend.
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12 minutes ago, tebee said:Equally leaving with no deal, people losing their jobs, food shortages and the cost of living increasing will play out so well with the electorate I expect...
That's certainly the remainer rhetoric - but the multitude of threats didn't work prior to the referendum and consequently are even less likely to work now. ????
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4 minutes ago, petemoss said:Well my dream has a much better chance of becoming reality than your dream of a no deal Brexit. You have been dreaming of pink unicorns since the day you voted to leave.
Of course you would reduce yourself to the "pink unicorns" line as so many other remain posters have previously ????.
Please feel free to continue with your made-up lies and assertions about brexiteers, as there's clearly no way you can discuss sensibly without resorting to insults/remainers made-up terms etc. etc......
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2 minutes ago, petemoss said:It's an option that will lead Britain into an economic and social nightmare and will never get through Parliament. i.e. It's not really an option. May's deal, which can't be renegotiated is a half in half out deal which would also damage the economy and also never get passed by Parliament. Ergo, there are no viable options. Brexit is dead.
That, of course, is your dream.
Let's wait and see how our MPs accepting the May/eu surrender treaty plays out with the electorate ????.
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27 minutes ago, vogie said:No deal was not on the ballot paper, only leave or remain.
I've no idea why posters respond to SW - an obvious 'wind up' merchant with nothing to say other than insults etc.!
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23 minutes ago, bannork said:
So do you want to leave with no deal?
Of course not, but at the moment this is the best option.
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Why side-track this topic on semantics?
The father and daughter died because they were trying to enter the US illegally.
That's very sad - and is precisely why laws need to change to make it very clear to those hoping to use this route, that it's not an option.
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4 hours ago, Thainesss said:
So, to recap, you won’t lead by example (like most libs - all virtue signal, no action) and take any refugees in yourself but you’ll mock & guilt trip others for not wanting to foot the bill for billions of poor people.
Nah, that’s hogwash. But typical liberalism.
Good point.
I was once horrified when my ex husband invited someone we'd met at a fish and chip shop (after a night drinking...) to stay at our house, when the 'address' she'd been given turned out to be a 'doss house'. The stranger left before we woke up, leaving a lovely note saying how much she appreciated our generosity along with a 5 pound note. (A lot of money at that time.)
And I'd always been the liberal, whereas my hubby was the conservative ☹️.
Johnson warns EU against any 'Napoleonic' tariffs in no-deal Brexit
in World News
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"They are promising billions to save the fisheries."
I think hunt is "promising billions to save the fisheries". Certainly a bit odd - as the small brit. fisherman were sold out years ago.....