Bkk Brian

Jeez, where did you get that from, no don't tell me. Unbelievable misinformation

Yes I was reading that 10 mins ago and as confirmed the Guardian headline was just making things up. Deputy Spokesman: It’s not quite the case. No. What I can tell you is this: The overall number of fatalities that has been tallied by the Ministry of Health in Gaza, which is our counterpart on dealing with the death tolls. That number remains unchanged. And it’s at more than 35,000 people since 7 October. What’s changed is the Ministry of Health in Gaza has updated the breakdown of fatalities for whom full details have been documented. So, what they recently published was that they gave figures for 24,686 out of 34,622 overall fatalities recorded in Gaza. And those 24,686 people are the ones for whom full details have been documented — in other words, people who have been fully identified. Out of those then, out of that smaller number, that subset of identified bodies, you have 7,797 children, 4,959 women, 1,924 elderly and 10,006 men. And the Ministry of Health says that the documentation process of fully identifying details of the casualties is ongoing. Meanwhile, as you can see, if you do the math, that there’s about another 10,000-plus bodies who still have to be fully identified. And so, then the details of those — which of those are children, which of those are women — that will be reestablished once the full identification process is complete. We, our teams in Gaza, are unable to independently verify these figures, given the situation on the ground and the continuing combat and the sheer number of fatalities. And so, we cite the Ministry of Health as the source for our figures.

Miss leading Guardian headline. There is no quote of the UN saying that. “The United Nations’ teams in Gaza are unable to independently verify those figures given the prevailing situation on the ground and the sheer volume of fatalities,” an Ocha spokesperson, Jens Laerke, said. “It is for this reason that all figures used by the UN clearly cite the health ministry in Gaza as the source. The UN will verify these figures to the extent possible when conditions permit.”

Indeed I relish facts not your hyperbole, I am also not foolish enough to get out crystal balls and make predictions as you obviously are. Ukraine has recaptured 50% of the territory that Russia seized https://archive.ph/9smJG

? Yes seriously? Ukraine had regained more than 50% of ground Russia took by July 2023. Its lost some of that ground again. How does that equate to Russia winning?

Who's telling you the Russians are winning?

I provide a link, he did not. No it is not worth the same as much as you want it to be

IIs it as worthless as the 300 - 400k figure? The actual estimate of Ukraine deaths is 50,000 by the way

What's that got to do with me asking for a link to his claim that 300-400k are dead?

Did he not say it then? What makes you claim I am naïve? Do you really think I believe it exactly? Or would you prefer me to believe the B.S. figure of 300-400k that has not link?

Unbelievable. The WHO is just as bad as the UN https://twitter.com/EFischberger/status/1790325530044010628 The new data released last week attributes close to 10,000 reported deaths as coming from “reliable media sources,” and also reduces by more than half the number of women and children that it previously said had been killed during the war. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/who-defends-gaza-death-toll-figures-following-revision/ They are are also still not acknowledging the 14,000 Hamas fighters killed in those figures and the hundreds killed by Hamas's own rockets that failed.

However you are taking a 1:1 quote out of context and not followed the link to it That would mean some 18,000 civilians have died in Gaza, a ratio of roughly 1 combatant to 1.5 civilians. Given Hamas' likely inflation of the death count, the real figure could be closer to 1 to 1. Either way, the number would be historically low for modern urban warfare. https://www.newsweek.com/israel-has-created-new-standard-urban-warfare-why-will-no-one-admit-it-opinion-1883286

The ministry says bodies that arrive at hospitals get counted in the overall death count. Except that: April 6 report said that Hamas had “incomplete data” for 11,371 of the 33,091 recorded Palestinian deaths it claims, and is missing one or more key data points including identity number, full name, date of birth, or date of death. In a report three days earlier, the ministry admitted the “incompleteness” of 12,263 records. It was not immediately clear why, after three more days, that figure dropped to 11,371. Before its admissions of incomplete data, the ministry asserted that the information in more than 15,000 fatality records had stemmed from “reliable media sources.” However, the ministry never identified the sources in question and Gaza has no independent media. https://aseannow.com/topic/1325030-hamas-admits-one-third-of-its-data-on-gazan-deaths-is-‘incomplete’/

You do enjoy speaking on behalf of Hamas, what does that make you again?

“It is really important to note that Hamas says they want everyday to be like October 7th…I don’t see how the Israelis have any other option but to destroy Hamas in Rafah…Just yesterday the Israeli Defense Forces did a limited operations in Rafah, destroyed 10 tunnels. This is were Hamas’s leadership is cowering, this is where they are holding the hostages…” - LTG (ret) McMaster, former U.S. National Security Adviser

That was always the Hamas plan, if they released the hostages it would all stop. Biden says there would be a ceasefire in Gaza ‘tomorrow’ if Hamas frees hostages https://www.timesofisrael.com/biden-says-there-would-be-a-ceasefire-in-gaza-tomorrow-if-hamas-frees-hostages/

Besides, if 'some' Hamas terrorists are hiding among civilians, does that really JUSTIFY KILLING CIVILIANS to get to the bad guys? They are virtually all hiding among the civilians, you need to do some research. [Joint Chiefs chairman Mark Milley] "Milley added that in his own experience, “war is a horrible thing” and that such a war fought in “dense urban areas” inevitably would produce “very high levels of collateral damage,” appearing to reference the significant destruction in the Strip amid the military offensive against Hamas, which is taking place in densely populated Gaza. “There’s almost no way around it, but if there’s any morality at all, you need to get into it, achieve your political objectives, get it done, get it done fast, and get it over with,” he said." https://www.timesofisrael.com/ex-us-army-chief-defends-israels-oct-7-response-can-you-imagine-what-we-would-do/ How do you suggest getting Hamas?

Its up to him to prove it, not me, until then it remains a lie

I follow the situation, I cannot say it is a lie and as I said, your link does NOT confirm it but I do know this was a lie: while the estimated deaths in Ukrainian army is 300-400k.

Deaths are not jokes, no matter who gets killed He claimed the link confirms, it does not, read it.

Nothing in that link that gives confirmed figures. Stop lying. 31,000 Ukrainian troops have been killed so far in the war, Zelenskyy says FEBRUARY 25, 2024 https://www.npr.org/2024/02/25/1233801790/ukraine-troops-killed-war-zelenskyy-russia-ammunition

What business is it of yours what nationality he is? Are you Hamas?

UN revises Gaza death toll, almost 50% less women and children killed than previously reported https://www.foxnews.com/world/un-revises-gaza-death-toll-50-less-women-children-killed-previously-reported Direct quote from UN: “The revisions are taken … you know, of course, in the fog of war, it’s difficult to come up with numbers,” Haq told JNS. “We get numbers from different sources on the ground, and then we try to cross check them. As we cross check them, we update the numbers, and we’ll continue to do that as that progresses.” https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/jns/un-blames-fog-of-war-for-major-overcounting-of-gazan-child-fatalities/article_4f4fe664-3f78-59f1-aa35-83e67c784323.html

Facts are not a thing for you are they.

while the estimated deaths in Ukrainian army is 300-400k. I guess we'll wait for ever for you to provide a credible link to that B.S.