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The media bias started early and was evident more or less from the beginning. Just head back to the carpark strike at Ahli Arab hospital, Oct 17th. Middle eastern media came out with headlines of 800 + murdered by Israeli bombs. Western Media parroted Hamas claims of 500 killed by Israeli bombs. It was eventually proven that it was not an Israeli strike at all but a misfire from a Hamas rocket that landed in the carpark. In the end US intelligence put the figure of dead as around 100 - 300 with confidence in the lower end, while their European counterparts put the figure at 50 dead. Even the BBC had to make a public apology. The start of a repeat pattern for them.

Your prediction is granted: Greta Thunberg Detained at Eurovision Protest Thunberg, who was wearing a keffiyeh, was escorted away from the event by the cops, according to footage from the incident. “I’m here to show we think it is outrageous and inexcusable for Eurovision to let Israel participate while committing a genocide,” Thunberg said in a statement. https://www.thedailybeast.com/greta-thunberg-arrested-at-eurovision-palestinian-protest

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Hamas disagrees with you. Hamas says purpose of massacres was a ‘permanent’ state of war on Israel’s borders The goal of Hamas’s October 7 massacres in southern Israel was to “change the entire equation,” bring permanent war to Israel’s borders and renew attention to the Palestinian cause, a senior member of the terror group’s politburo in Qatar said. “What could change the equation was a great act, and without a doubt, it was known that the reaction to this great act would be big,” Khalil al-Hayya told The New York Times in an interview published Wednesday. “We had to tell people that the Palestinian cause would not die.” “I hope that the state of war with Israel will become permanent on all the borders, and that the Arab world will stand with us,” Hamas media consultant Taher El-Nounou told The Times. https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-says-it-staged-massacres-to-cause-permanent-state-of-war-on-israels-borders/

Hamas releases video of British-Israeli hostage Hamas's armed wing has released another video of an Israeli hostage. He is dual British-Israeli national Nadav Popplewell, who was kidnapped from Kibbutz Nirim on 7 October. In the 11-second clip, the 51-year-old identifies himself by name, before the video cuts to a question mark superimposed with text in Arabic and Hebrew: "Time is running out. Your government is lying." Nadav Popplewell has an obvious bruise under one of his eyes. It is not clear when the video was taken. The family have asked for the video not to be shown. The family of British-Israeli hostage Nadav Popplewell requests that the recently released Hamas video not be published or used.

Do they employee terrorists as Al Jazeera has?

Would you rather they stay in the war zone, we know Hamas would to be human shields?

No the hostages were and are kidnapped innocent women, babies, children and the elderly, taken from their own homes in Israel and taken to the tunnels of Gaza where the women carried on being sexually abused. They were taken with no justification, some of the Palestinian civilians who did the kidnapping sold them to Hamas while in Gaza for their blood money.

Only a Hamas supporter would say that to give themselves a moral excuse from the mass rapes, torture, massacres and hostage taking that Hamas carried out.

Nobody has found Israel guilty of Genocide, no evidence has been found of that. The ICJ did not say it was plausible that Israel were carrying out Genocide. The US says there is no evidence.

In their policies Israel has a 1 : 100 civilians to Hamas ratio as acceptable, when it's about an important Hamas leader. And since everything is in rubble when those 2000 pound dumb American bombs are dropped, who knows what really happened. Why plain lie? As regards Geneva conventions; Its covered in IHL The Lawful Killing of Civilians Under International Humanitarian Law However I fail to see what this has to do with UN Resolution of the topic, as the UK stated: “We are abstaining from this resolution because we believe the first step towards achieving this goal is resolving the immediate crisis in Gaza,” she said, emphasising that the fastest way to end the conflict is “to secure a deal which gets the hostages out and allows for a pause in the fighting”. “We must then work together to turn that pause into a sustainable, permanent ceasefire.” She added that “setting out the horizon” for a Palestinian State should be one of the vital conditions from moving from a pause in fighting to a sustainable ceasefire.

How does that refute this? How does that back up these claims: Have you noticed all countries negotiate with terrorists to some degree despite the official policies or actions?

I would like a link to this claim: I provided a link to how they are bending backwards in the negotiations. Which is exactly what I claimed. You also claimed Israel would disagree with me. How so?

Can you provide a link to that claim?

That's got nothing to do with my post, pure deflection: "why would Israel not agree with me?" Blinken hopes Hamas takes Israel’s ‘extraordinarily generous’ truce offer https://www.timesofisrael.com/blinken-hopes-hamas-takes-israels-extraordinarily-generous-truce-offer/

And? I gave my opinion on it. Its the same opinion that Israel has. The UN Security Council Resolution didn't work and the ICJ order didn't work. What choice does Israel have? Hence a bitter pill to swallow. I am still waiting for this "why would Israel not agree with me?"

Did you read my post? "A bitter pill to swallow but its pretty obvious we are rewarding terrorism and always have. That's why hostages are still be taken for terrorism purposes all over the world." If I had children taken hostage I would also do anything I could to negotiate even though I know it rewards the terrorists. Now again why so why would Israel not agree with me?

Yes, Israel has been bending over backwards with concessions that what I said, so why would Israel not agree with me?

Topic on that: US Report Suggests Israel May Have Violated International Law with American Weapons in Gaza https://aseannow.com/topic/1327021-us-report-suggests-israel-may-have-violated-international-law-with-american-weapons-in-gaza

The second article quote is not from Israel. So why does Israel disagree with me?

From CNN The Gaza Civil Defense acknowledged that around 100 bodies were buried in graves at the Nasser hospital before the IDF operation there. Would you like to now go to wiki and spend some time finding criticism of CNN despite Honest reporting providing geo location proof of them being there before?

Yes and? How is that relevant to the facts contained in the article with all the external links?

9 Countries voted against the resolution including the US. 25 abstained including the UK which said in their statement: “We are abstaining from this resolution because we believe the first step towards achieving this goal is resolving the immediate crisis in Gaza,” she said, emphasising that the fastest way to end the conflict is “to secure a deal which gets the hostages out and allows for a pause in the fighting”. “We must then work together to turn that pause into a sustainable, permanent ceasefire.” She added that “setting out the horizon” for a Palestinian State should be one of the vital conditions from moving from a pause in fighting to a sustainable ceasefire. Israel Ambassador to the UN Gilad Erdan "Watch my speech against the despicable decision to give rights of a state to the terror supporting Palestinian Authority. I shredded the "UN Charter" to illustrate what the General Assembly is doing by subverting the Security Council and supporting the entry of a terror entity."

Back on topic, this is an interesting one. I was following it myself as it unfolded and witnessing the media bias and misinformation happening. Unearthing the Story Behind the Gazan Mass Graves Over the past week, Palestinian teams have been unearthing mass graves outside two Gaza medical complexes, Nasser hospital in Khan Yunis and Al Shifa hospital in Gaza City, following the withdrawal of Israeli forces who were conducting counter-terrorism operations in the area. With the opening of these mass graves, social media and some traditional news outlets have been abuzz with claims that these graves are evidence of mass killings of Palestinians by Israelis and that some of those found inside the graves show signs of being tortured and killed execution-style with their hands tied behind their backs. https://honestreporting.com/unearthing-the-story-behind-the-gazan-mass-graves/ The above reminds me a little of the alleged bombing in the hospital car park that was supposedly carried out by Israel and killed up to 800 people.

Ok. I was interjecting the same as you were doing. No problem