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11 minutes ago, Thomas J said:
The answer seems to be as clear as mud. Apparently CP owns shares in a Hong Kong based company Sino Biopharmaceutical and that Sino Biopharmaceutical holds a 15% right to Sinovac company. Sinovac Life Sciences. Now CP said that it was a minority shareholder but did not disclose its ownership percentage of Sino Biopharmaceutical.
If CP owned 100% of Sino Biopharmaceutical it would in turn own 15% of Sinovac. But I can not establish what percentage of ownership CP actually has.Sorry it was 15%, you are correct. According to wikipedia Sino Biopharmaceutical is a subsidiary of CP Group, so presumable 100% owned by CP under the CP Pharmaceutical Group banner
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This guy must be tone deaf as they say. This is unlikely to garner sympathy from anyone in Thailand
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2 hours ago, Thomas J said:There has to be a reason for the governments undying loyalty to Sinovac despite all the pushback from the medical community and citizens. If not, why would the government not do the easy thing and procure the vaccines that the public and the doctors are wanting.
Isn't Sinovac 20% owned by Charoen Pokphand? There's your answer
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I very much doubt those in charge could actually make soup, that would be useful in a crisis
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7 hours ago, utalkin2me said:
If you wanted to make things as worse as possible, follow the Thai model. Close down country and inflict max pain a year before the virus even hits. This ensures every small business owner is completely wiped out even before arrival of the main spreading months. Then, when everyone is devastated, fed up and poor, the virus sweeps the country.
perfectly played.
Exactly right.
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I think we are all very surprised Thailand stuck with Sinovac so long, but what do we know?
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Sinovac and Sinopharm should be taken off vaccine approved lists, it's fairly obvious now
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The boss at CPD will not be too happy his investment turned out to be a dud. I wonder why Thailand decided Sinovac was the way to go in the first place?
All those pushing Sinovac over other more widely recognised and successful vaccines, should be held to account
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29 minutes ago, bitterbatter said:Why on Earth do you want an untested, experimental‘vaccine’ made in the same country as the virus.... when you Already have cheap cure that works even with variants, ivermectin????
vaccines need a minimum of 5 years testing, MRNA gene therapy isn’t even a actual vaccine.
Can't believe some people still actually think like this!
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Bare minimum from those in charge. If enough people go along with it, it might help
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4 hours ago, HandsomeTallFarang said:
Baby boomers being selfish and only thinking about themselves? Imagine my shock! Imagine if the world operated entirely by your selfish logic. “Old people might die, so we need to restructure society to accommodate that.” This isn’t any different from “Drunk drivers might kill some people, so we need to halt all driving to protect those at risk.”
”Some people might abuse alcohol so it needs to be banned for everyone.”
You are an awful GRANDMA KILLER if you don’t want to sacrifice your income and livelihoods for a small portion of the population who are most vulnerable to the virus that greater than 99% of people survive! Being on board with Thailand’s version of a COVID lockdown is like being on board with Stalin’s Five Year Plan. Thailand’s version of COVID lockdowns are a dictator’s wet dream. Even if you lose your job because everything is shut down, you can’t even travel back to your hometown and live with family because travel is restricted.. How can anyone except bitter old pensioners who don’t need to worry about where their next meal comes from, be on board with that?
Here’s an idea: how about the ones most vulnerable, go self isolate if they’re so afraid. No contact with anyone, we will slide trays of food and supplies under the door or leave it outside after they are thoroughly soaked in sanitizer. We’ll send you a vaccine kit when they’re available and you can inject yourself with it, it’s not hard.
Let all the young, able bodied people choose between getting covid, or not being homeless. Statistics are on their side if they catch COVID; they’ll get better. COVID is not the ultimate doomsday virus that is going to kill EVERYONE!
If the aging pensioners took better care of their health, they wouldn’t need to be so afraid of a virus with a greater than 99% survival rate, but personal responsibility and self control is hard, and being fat and unhealthy is easy. ????????♂️
So everyone here on board with yet another lockdown (since the other ones worked so well, right?) where can I come collect my GF’s monthly salary generously provided by you, after yet another indefinite lockdown puts her out of work again? I’m standing by with her K-bank account numbers, you can go ahead and make direct deposits. ????????
That's a great rant, now tell me what it was about
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I am guessing much to the dismay of many here and many many Thai business owners. Seems a lot of people are prepared to gamble with the lives of all the elderly and infirm just so they can carry on selling noodles or drink a beer at some bar or other.
Collective responsibility starts at home. Maybe the expats should set an example for once
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This is nothing short of criminal. The world is watching Thailand
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Only a full lockdown, no work, no travel, no non-essential shops open etc, will slow the spread of delta strain and give health authorities a chance to do their jobs, but it may be too late for that.
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If I was the governor of Phuket. I would order barricades at the bridge today. Everyone will be thinking it's the safest place to be and will try to get in by whatever means necessary.
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5 hours ago, dinsdale said:Before anyone calls this a spike it's not. This is shooting up fast. Maybe tomorrow will be less maybe more but the direction is up and up fast.
You're risking the "exponential" klaxon you know!
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4 hours ago, giddyup said:
So what good is the wearing of masks and the various restrictions actually doing?
FFP3 masks still prevent delta transmission 100%, so still worth using one
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40 minutes ago, anchadian said:
Thailand may have infection numbers “3-4 times higher” than the government declared total
Experts say that Thailand may have Covid-19 infection numbers 3-4 times higher than the total number declared by the government per day, according to insiders within the healthcare sector.
According to a doctor at the Bangkok Dusit Medical Services group, experts at the Private Hospitals Association meeting on Wednesday suggested that the real number of Covid-19 infections could be much higher than that being declared by the government.
“We have no idea what the total number is but it could literally be 3 to 4 times higher than what is being declared based on the statistics we have gathered at our hospitals,” the doctor said on condition of anonymity.
At last! Possibly one of the most important posts we have seen here in a long time.
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5 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:The 6,519 new COVID cases reported Wednesday, including the 6,464 general population cases, both set new pandemic record single-day highs for Thailand.
Thailand has now had four 6,000+ new COVID case days out of the past six days, and hit a total COVID case count since the beginning of more than 300,000. The country's prior record single-day high was 6,230 cases just four days ago on July 3.
At current 6,000+ levels, Thailand's current number of new officially reported COVID cases each day has doubled in just the past three weeks from the 3,000+ new case counts of mid-June.
The 54 deaths reported Wednesday is the country's third highest total ever, The past high in single day deaths was 61 on July 2, and two days earlier this month, including yesterday, with 57 deaths.
Because the 6,519 new COVID cases reported Wednesday once again substantially exceeded the 4,148 reported recoveries, the total hospitalized toll will rise yet again when updated later today.
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For the second day in a row, Thailand once again Wednesday set new daily records for COVID patients in critical condition, the share of those requiring ventilators to breathe, and total COVID hospitalizations.
67,614 COVID patients hospitalized vs 65,297 yesterday.
2,496 COVID patients hospitalized in critical condition vs 2,350 yesterday.
Of those, 676 requiring ventilators to breathe vs 643 yesterday.
Infections will go from doubling every 21 days to every 15 days to every 10 days in no time at all. End of July should see infections of 24-30,000 per day.
That number will not be reported though, unless testing is more widely available
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In other news Bear found in woods claims Pope is catholic
Thailand is so lucky to have such intelligent folks at the top
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Thailand would be a much nicer place if they understood what city planning is actually for and what zoning means
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With the Delta variant ripping through Thailand now, this will do zilch to prevent deaths from current delta wave. I suppose it could help those that didn't get infected this time around in preparation for another variant wave later in the year.
3 months is an age, even 3 weeks would be too long to wait the way things are going now
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Something everybody really needs to understand now the delta variant is taking over
Cases Will not go down!!!
In the UK cases were doubling every 15 days just a couple of weeks ago, now they are doubling every 9 days.
So no matter what the figures say, cases will not go down until almost everyone has been infected or vaccinated. The only way to avoid being infected is to stay at home, that is it!
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Thai government still betting big on Sinovac as public faith erodes
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True. Half of those countries ordered the vaccine before CP invested.