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3 hours ago, wensiensheng said:Snip..
it’s early and hard, or it’s very ineffective. So if not doing it early and hard, there had better be an alternative
I had an ex who thought like this too ????
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10 minutes ago, anchadian said:
CCSA remaps Deep Red, Red, Orange and Green areas as COVID-19 pandemic situation worsens
As COVID-19 infections increase relentlessly in most of Thailand’s provinces, the Centre for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) has added Ayutthaya, Chachoengsao and Chon Buri provinces to the “maximum controlled and restricted” or “Dark Red” zones.
The number of provinces classified as “maximum controlled”, or “Red” zones has increased to 53, leaving only 10 provinces classified as “controlled”, or “Orange” zones and Phuket as the only province classified as an “under close watch” area.
The remapping of Thailand into these zones, in accordance with the COVID-19 pandemic situation, was published in the Royal Gazette today (Sunday) and will become effective on Tuesday.
Selfishly, very grateful my wife's family live in an orange zone. I imagine she'd be getting very frustrated with Thai govt and me (always me) if they lived in a deep red zone
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They simply do not learn or listen to those that know better.
Lockdown now or pay the price you fools
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58 minutes ago, samtam said:
Is any AZ so far administered in Thailand made in Thailand?
Yes of course it is
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1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:
As far as I know this is only for in the EU approved vaccines. And as far as I know (I looked it up not long ago) Sinovac was not on the approved list!
Not just Sinovac, AZ when produced in Thailand is also unapproved
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"the Phuket Sandbox project as thoroughly thought out and proceeding as planned"
There seems to be one element missing from the plan though, where are all the guests?
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It's gonna take Snake Plissken to get you into Fortress Patong in the near future.
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So left on their own for 2 years, no locals thought it might be a good idea to clean up the trash on the beaches? The mind boggles
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I said jokingly a week ago it was time to barricade Phuket to stop a likely invasion by Thais looking for a safe haven.
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Thailand won't act until it is publicly humiliated by some foreign govt etc. Even then it will do the bare minimum
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4 hours ago, hotchilli said:
Saturation point is fast approaching, infections and serious cases are forever rising, no efficient vaccines available for the majority, it's going pear-shaped very fast now.
Discussed with wife wether we should tell family in Thailand to buy personal supply of Oxygen just in case it is needed in the near future. Decided not to tell them so as not to inflame the supply shortage, but can't believe things have got so bad we even had to think like that
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5 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:NEW HIGH: Chonburi Public Health Office has just announced they have 513 new cases and two more deaths. Most new cases are in Chonburi City (77), Bang Lamung/Pattaya (128), and Si Racha (121). The total cases so far is now 13,003 with 4,812 remaining in care
https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1415096485318823937
If cases have doubled in a week in Chonburi, you can pretty much guarantee that is the case in Bangkok as well, even if the figures from lack of testing fail to reflect that
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They can only do 2-3 cremations per day, so it would not take much for them to be overwhelmed
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Looks like a lump of blue glass, value 250bt
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1 hour ago, bradiston said:Firstly, if they'd initially been given AZ, they'd still be looking at a 2nd AZ. Secondly, most countries are now talking 3rd shot boosters, so whatever was given 1st and 2nd falls into your definition as useless, right? Seems most vaxes have diminishing potency against new strains.
You seem happy to miss the point which is, that purchasing Sinovac, a more expensive vaccine than AZ was a massive mistake. The govt did have options to buy from other sources but didn't.
It adds up to a huge waste of money and worse a huge waste of manpower and time, things which in a pandemic are extremely important not to waste. They would not be looking at AZ boosters, or any boosters until long after everyone was vaccinated, if they had not bought Sinovac
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I do hope this doesn't escape from the camps into the general population. That's all Thailand needs is a home made variant of concern
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In the words of the great K.C. "give it up, give it up, baby give it up"
What a farce!
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2 hours ago, gearbox said:
Where is the logic here...if Sinovac is useless why they should have a Sinovac jab at all, one jab of AZ is enough right?
No one jab of AZ is not enough, but 1 jab of AZ is better than 2 jabs of sinovac. The govt wasted time, money and peoples lives because they bought into the Sinovac deal without thinking through the consequences, and without enough evidence that Sinovac was going to be able to protect those that were given it.
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Testing an extra 10,000 people per day when positives are already that high seems like a futile gesture
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So basically wasting all of these AZ vaccines on boosters because the sinovac govt bought turned out to be useless.
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13 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:
According to https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/vaccines/7/ Sinovac has been in 37 countries. They can't all be influenced by CP.
True. Half of those countries ordered the vaccine before CP invested.
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11 minutes ago, Thomas J said:
The answer seems to be as clear as mud. Apparently CP owns shares in a Hong Kong based company Sino Biopharmaceutical and that Sino Biopharmaceutical holds a 15% right to Sinovac company. Sinovac Life Sciences. Now CP said that it was a minority shareholder but did not disclose its ownership percentage of Sino Biopharmaceutical.
If CP owned 100% of Sino Biopharmaceutical it would in turn own 15% of Sinovac. But I can not establish what percentage of ownership CP actually has.Sorry it was 15%, you are correct. According to wikipedia Sino Biopharmaceutical is a subsidiary of CP Group, so presumable 100% owned by CP under the CP Pharmaceutical Group banner
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This guy must be tone deaf as they say. This is unlikely to garner sympathy from anyone in Thailand
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2 hours ago, Thomas J said:There has to be a reason for the governments undying loyalty to Sinovac despite all the pushback from the medical community and citizens. If not, why would the government not do the easy thing and procure the vaccines that the public and the doctors are wanting.
Isn't Sinovac 20% owned by Charoen Pokphand? There's your answer
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Thailand wants to limit export of locally-produced AstraZeneca vaccine
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So much for Asean neighbours all working together for the benefit of all. If Thailand stops exports I would expect very strong blowback from the south