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So many clusters. Hard to keep track of them all. Why not just say it is in the general population now and plan accordingly?

1 minute ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Buriram and Surin, for example,  down to 1 confirmed case (from double digits after the expected post Songkran surge).

 

You call that an upward arc?

 

 

The numbers are becoming negligible in many areas and we will soon be back to the CCSA reporting "X number of provinces with zero cases for Y number of weeks'.

It's just so sweet that you think this is over.. bless!

5 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

The confirmed cases are falling - fact.

 

 

If you want to fanaticize about the reasons for that, go ahead.

 

 

The acid test is always deaths.....................I still don't see them queuing up at the wats.

Falling in an upward arc.. 

30 minutes ago, Brierley said:

I hope that is true and I wish that was true, because I spend Baht just like everyone else. But I see no reason in economics terms why GBP will strengthen and remain strong against THB over anything ohter than the short term. UK government debt is sky high (105% of GDP), Thailand's government debt is still very low by comparison (50% of GDP) and almost none of it is foreign debt (1.5%). And of course, a stronger currency works against exports, something that both countries need.

UK govt debt is to itself, it's not that much of a problem in reality

21 minutes ago, edwardandtubs said:

Thailand isn't a developed country like the United Kingdom. You make mass testing sound like a simple thing that they could just click their fingers and start doing overnight. It took the UK many months and a lot of money to get their mass testing off the ground. As mass vaccination is due to start next month, would it really be a good use of Thailand's limited budget to invest in the infrastructure for mass testing now?

Malaysia is doing between 2x and 7x the amount of tests daily that Thailand is doing. There is just no excuse for not doing much more

Every decision the Thai govt makes, like reopening restaurants etc, means that Thailand is a bit more likely to go the same way as India. I cannot fathom how anyone thinks this is under control in any way

This is worrying and shows how obvious the manipulation or case numbers has become

2 minutes ago, edwardandtubs said:

Only for a total pedant. The reality is they weren't reporting the prison statistics but suddenly changed their mind and decided to report them all the same day. It doesn't reflect new cases diagnosed yesterday, which remain at approximately 2,000.

Which only goes to prove the daily numbers are utterly meaningless. They add what they want and ignore what they don’t want

Does a provincial governor even have the power to expel foreigners?

I hope this doesn't affect the Thai baht

How can we show that Thailand is massaging its daily covid numbers? It's difficult but compared to its neighbour down south, the figures just do not make any sense at all. 

Malaysia with half the population of Thailand is reporting similar daily death rates and nearly double the case rates. How is this likely? What is Thailand doing to be so good at getting such steady daily case numbers?

Well Malaysia does 30-40x the amount of tests Thailand does, so is Malaysia just massively richer and more successful than Thailand, that it can do this? Or does Thailand simply choose not to test, not because as some suggest they cannot afford it, but because it is the only way it can continue to pull the wool over the eyes of the general public?

Malaysia also took the approach to only test clusters early on, it didn't work, and 3 of the worlds Variants of concern, are out in the wild in Malaysia. 

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The World Health Organisation (WHO) has identified four VOCs — namely the B.1.351 South African variant, the B.1.1.7 variant from the United Kingdom, the B.1.1.28 variant reported in Brazil and the B.1.617.1 double-mutation variant from India.

According to Dr Noor Hisham, only the Brazil VOC has yet to be detected in the country.

He also raised concerns that 80 per cent of new Covid-19 infections were now sporadic and no longer contained in clusters, necessitating the need for MCO 3.0.

I once said Thailand will be amongst the last of the developed countries to be vaccinated, and that that wouldn't happen until 2022.

Glad to see I'm still on track for the win and the old spidey senses are still working

Want to bet that you have to be vaccinated fully, have proof in form of certificate, translate certificate into Thai, buy covid insurance, have test 72 hours before and test 5 days after entering Thailand all at your expense

3 hours ago, TaoNow said:

Petey:  You make a lot of good points.  I just wish other posters would be as circumspect as you about the options instead of shouting for mass testing. as the only viable strategy to identify, contain, and control the Covid-19 pandemic. 

 

For example, if money was the limitation, would the government have gone to the extreme of effectively shutting down international tourism (15% of annual GDP?).  I cannot reconcile that drastic action by the Thai government with those who say the country isn't doing enough.  It vitually torpedoed that major sector of the economy to protect the population.

 

While those kind of decisions are made by different parts of the government, I think eveyone is aware of the sacrifices being made.

 

I just am so disappointed by all the negative posts on the Forum about what the Thai government is trying to do to avert a Covid-19 catastrophe.   It is in no one's interest to let that happen, and the government is certainly not incompetent as demonstrated by their incredibly effective response to the HIV epidemic.

You've mentioned the HIV epidemic a few times in relation to this, but even you must realise they are different by several magnitudes. HIV spreads nowhere near as fast as this does so govt has to move at much much faster pace as well. 

They need to be doing far more than 2-3000 tests a day, 10x that would be a good start and that is still nothing like the mass testing we have seen in Europe.

You absolutely cannot wait for the data to point to a cluster before acting, not with these new variants, govt needs to be ahead not constantly chasing behind