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Stopping the compulsory hospitalisation of covid+ patients would be a good first step. It was never a well thought through plan.
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Always pop in when the Mrs is out and about at the shops. It's a shame Thais on the whole don't appreciate art as much as we do in the west, as there are always some interesting shows on
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Will it be cleaned up by Phuket residents or just left there for tourists to clean up when they arrive
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This is not to be confused with the junk vaccine "Sinovac", this is another China made junk vaccine called Sinopharm
QuoteHowever, increases in COVID-19 cases do appear to have been particularly apparent in countries using the Sinopharm jab. The Seychelles witnessed a notable spike, despite (at the time of reporting) over 60% of the country having had two doses. The initial vaccine used in the Seychelles was Sinopharm’s, along with additional use of AstraZeneca’s. It was reported that around one-third of new cases were in fully vaccinated people. Similar scenarios have been seen elsewhere, including in Chile, Bahrain and Uruguay.
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3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:
SINGAPORE — There is a significant risk of "vaccine breakthrough" with the Sinovac vaccine, or CoronaVac, with international evidence showing that many who had taken it were later infected with COVID-19, said the Ministry of Health's (MOH) director of medical services Kenneth Mak on Friday (18 June).
Very worrying. Basically Sinovac is next to useless against anything but initial few variants. Anyone having Sinovac should immediately get AZ or similar
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Behold! My prediction is looking good. Must do lottery
On 5/21/2021 at 7:42 AM, ourmanflint said:Is anyone really surprised by this news? I suppose Thailand will stumble on with minimal testing to mask the spread of this variant much like it did with the Kent one. I'm guessing the new "magic" acceptable number will be around 3500 per day for a very long time
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Which countries are these? Is there a link?
Quote- Thai nationals and foreign expatriates must travel from countries/regions with a low to medium risk of SAR-CoV-2 virus as announced and constantly updated by the Ministry of Public Health (MoPH);
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I see your 2-3 months and raise to 3-4 weeks!
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If this is to protect tourists from catching covid? then I agree. Thailand is not really a safe place to visit t the moment or in the next few months
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Better enjoy now as they will close again Friday
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Best thing the government is doing to control this is to open all the massage parlours and schools! That'll slow things down
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2 hours ago, RobMuir said:The numbers haven't exploded with this UK variant like it did in many other countries that had daily deaths in the hundreds and even thousands.
Looks like the stringent measures they have enforced along with the public that has largely complied has made a huge difference and saved thousands of lives.
With a bit of luck hopefully it further fizzles out and businesses on the brink will be saved also.
We are not out of the woods yet, but it is looking promising.
Yes of course. The virus behaved differently in Thailand because you know “this is thailand”
I suppose the Indian variant will just say namaste and pass Thailand by?
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It took 60-70 days for alpha variant to become dominant, it will take less than half that time for the Indian delta variant. Buckle up!
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Notice from a doomsayer:
This variant will rip through Thailand like it has the UK, the silly people in charge need to act now, up testing massively not just respond to clusters, this will be everywhere very very quickly
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19 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:
That's not correct. Pfizer is much better than that
Should we all believe you over the worlds scientists? Think not
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57214596
QuoteThe Pfizer and AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccines are highly effective against the variant identified in India after two doses, a study has found.
Two jabs of either vaccine give a similar level of protection against symptomatic disease from the Indian variant as they do for the Kent one.
However, both vaccines were only 33% effective against the Indian variant three weeks after the first dose.
This compared with 50% effectiveness against the Kent variant.
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22 minutes ago, tanner said:
Despite having both phfizer jabs and taking the usual precautions the Indian variant got me, now on day 10 of isolation, feeling better but now worried about future infections
That stinks! I'm still taking care, have had both AZ jabs, don't want to catch it again now we're on last mile of marathon
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Indian/delta variant 70% more transmissible and 250% more likely to lead to serious illness and hospitalisation than current Kent/alpha one now dominant in Thailand.
Single dose of AZ only 32% effective after 3 weeks. Sinovac? Who knows
What do you think is going to happen to those 2500 daily case rates?
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7 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57214596
The Pfizer vaccine was found to be 88% effective at stopping symptomatic disease from the Indian variant two weeks after the second dose, compared with 93% effectiveness against the Kent variant.
The AstraZeneca jab was 60% effective against the Indian variant, compared with 66% against the Kent variant.
Pfizer and AZ only 32% after first dose, for Sinovac there is no data as yet
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It took less than. a month for this Indian variant to become the dominant one in the UK, even after all the vaccinations. This will happen in Thailand as well
edit: it took 60 days from first case to 90% dominance and predicted same for USA
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No. A single dose of vaccine does not get you to herd immunity, 2 doses plus 3 weeks for antibodies to build up is the minimum
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5 minutes ago, rbkk said:
It could be higher. It's an unknown. A gamble. It's a little nieve perhaps to think that Thailand and other Asian countries won't bury or massage the real figures, in order to vaccinate their populations.
You're just scaremongering. Decide for yourself, that's fine, but don't try to put anyone else off from taking it.
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16 hours ago, rbkk said:
Yup, that's what I wrote.
9%. My info was taken from an infographic posted somewhere here yesterday. It listed the variants by numbers not names. I thought I thanked the poster but can't find it in my history. Perhaps another member could link to it. It was in color with the vaccines listed vertically and the variants by number (e.g. Lineage B.1.351) horizontally. Astra Zeneca was 9% for one of the variants. The poster mentioned it was difficult to find and I wanted to say thanks for sharing, but obviously didn't, sorry!
I'm guessing it is the South African Variant(Lineage B.1.351) which in this Link from March is AZ 10% efficacy.https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/mrna-vaccines-best-at-protecting-against-variants
Didn't realise the SA variant was the one in Thailand! Silly me. You better not get it then
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2 hours ago, rbkk said:AZ = 1 in 75000 risk of a blood clot. If everyone in Thailand had this vaccine 880 people would develop blood clots. Only 9% effective against some variants. My vaccine appt postponement perhaps is a good thing.
9%? Which variant would that be then? Also 1 in 75000 is not a guarantee, it is a risk factor for some countries
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It's good to see that in such desperate times the Thai baht can still make gains against the dollar and GBP.
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Thailand reports 44 COVID-19 deaths, 3,644 new cases
in Thailand News Headlines
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There are thousands and thousands of empty hotel rooms in Bangkok, they can easily be used to provide isolation facilities for non-symptomatic covid+ patients. Let hospitals do their job and remove all those clogging up beds with no symptoms