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This is not to be confused with the junk vaccine "Sinovac", this is another China made junk vaccine called Sinopharm 

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However, increases in COVID-19 cases do appear to have been particularly apparent in countries using the Sinopharm jab. The Seychelles witnessed a notable spike, despite (at the time of reporting) over 60% of the country having had two doses. The initial vaccine used in the Seychelles was Sinopharm’s, along with additional use of AstraZeneca’s. It was reported that around one-third of new cases were in fully vaccinated people. Similar scenarios have been seen elsewhere, including in Chile, Bahrain and Uruguay.

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

SINGAPORE — There is a significant risk of "vaccine breakthrough" with the Sinovac vaccine, or CoronaVac, with international evidence showing that many who had taken it were later infected with COVID-19, said the Ministry of Health's (MOH) director of medical services Kenneth Mak on Friday (18 June).

 

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/significant-problems-sinovac-vaccine-other-countries-moh-official-105357031.html

Very worrying. Basically Sinovac is next to useless against anything but initial few variants. Anyone having Sinovac should immediately get AZ or similar

Which countries are these? Is there a link? 

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• Thai nationals and foreign expatriates must travel from countries/regions with a low to medium risk of SAR-CoV-2 virus as announced and constantly updated by the Ministry of Public Health (MoPH);

Best thing the government is doing to control this is to open all the massage parlours and schools! That'll slow things down

Notice from a doomsayer:

This variant will rip through Thailand like it has the UK, the silly people in charge need to act now, up testing massively not just respond to clusters, this will be everywhere very very quickly

19 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

That's not correct.  Pfizer is much better than that

Should we all believe you over the worlds scientists? Think not

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57214596

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The Pfizer and AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccines are highly effective against the variant identified in India after two doses, a study has found.

Two jabs of either vaccine give a similar level of protection against symptomatic disease from the Indian variant as they do for the Kent one.

However, both vaccines were only 33% effective against the Indian variant three weeks after the first dose.

This compared with 50% effectiveness against the Kent variant.

22 minutes ago, tanner said:

Despite having both phfizer jabs and taking the usual precautions the Indian variant got me, now on day 10 of isolation, feeling better but now worried about future infections

That stinks! I'm still taking care, have had both AZ jabs, don't want to catch it again now we're on last mile of marathon

7 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57214596

 

The Pfizer vaccine was found to be 88% effective at stopping symptomatic disease from the Indian variant two weeks after the second dose, compared with 93% effectiveness against the Kent variant.

 

The AstraZeneca jab was 60% effective against the Indian variant, compared with 66% against the Kent variant.

Pfizer and AZ only 32% after first dose, for Sinovac there is no data as yet

5 minutes ago, rbkk said:

It could be higher. It's an unknown. A gamble. It's a little nieve perhaps to think that Thailand and other Asian countries won't bury or massage the real figures, in order to vaccinate their populations.

You're just scaremongering. Decide for yourself, that's fine, but don't try to put anyone else off from taking it.

16 hours ago, rbkk said:

 

Yup, that's what I wrote.

 

9%. My info was taken from an infographic posted somewhere here yesterday. It listed the variants by numbers not names. I thought I thanked the poster but can't find it in my history. Perhaps another member could link to it. It was in color with the vaccines listed vertically and the variants by number (e.g. Lineage B.1.351) horizontally. Astra Zeneca was 9% for one of the variants. The poster mentioned it was difficult to find and I wanted to say thanks for sharing, but obviously didn't, sorry!

 

I'm guessing it is the South African Variant(Lineage B.1.351) which in this Link from March is AZ 10% efficacy.https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/mrna-vaccines-best-at-protecting-against-variants 

 

Didn't realise the SA variant was the one in Thailand! Silly me. You better not get it then

It's good to see that in such desperate times the Thai baht can still make gains against the dollar and GBP.

1.8 million doses of vaccine delivered to Astra Zeneca today.

 https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1399962317090004996?s=20