Tod Daniels

I totally concur with what Brit Tim says.. You will NOT get a tourist visa in Savannakhet and in fact you won't even get in the gate once they see your entry/stay history. They are turning away DROVES of people every week now However if you follow the guidelines for the tourist visa in Vientiane <- that means have proof of confirmed lodging for the 60 days you will be in thailand, have proof of a bank account with 20K baht in it for the last 3 months, have proof that you are flying OUT of thailand in 60 days, you should (no guarantees of course) be able to pull a single entry tourist visa from Vientiane for 1000baht. They won't even let you in the gate if you can't get it. Another consulate that appears NOT to take into consideration entry/stay history (at least not to the degree that HCMC, Hanoi & Savannakhet do) is Penang Malaysia so that might be another option for you ..

Hands down CNX is an easier entry point than either DMK or BKK. In fact I couldn't find any reports of denial of entry from CNX. If you're coming back in, have proof of onward travel in the 30 days you'll get stamped in. They'll ask for that first if they're going to hassle you or deny you entry.

If you get a year long, multi-entry, non-immigrant type O Visa based on marriage to a thai, you are correct that Visa sticker cannot be transferred into another passport. Period, End of story If you get a new passport while the Visa in the old passport is still valid when you travel out and back in every 90 days to activate a new 90-day entry on that year-long Visa you will show both passports each time, and you will be stamped in and out on the new passport. There is no way to get a Visa sticker issued from a Thai consulate in another country transferred to a new passport. Only entry stamps, and or extensions of stay can be transferred.

You're out nothing by slogging down to the Savannakhet Thai Consulate but I can almost guarantee you won't get a tourist visa from them with that entry/stay history. I doubt you will even get in the gate ???? AND as people pointed out for Vientiane you need to MEET the requirements for the tourist visa, especially the banked money, the confirmed lodging for 60 days AND the proof of flight out in 60 days. Vientiane is a totally workable consulate IF you meet the requirements and it's a totally BAD consulate to choose if you don't. So I take it from your entry history you burned BOTH the visa exempt entries you are allowed by land in a calendar year? If that's the case and you are unsuccessful at both Vientiane and Savannakhet what ever you do DO NOT fly back in to either Bangkok airport. You are almost sure to be denied entry at DMK or BKK. If you can't get the tourist visa and have to fly in go to Chiang Mai or Phuket.. <- Those two have the least denial of entry of any international airports in thailand. If you're comin' back visa exempt (as in you don't get a tourist visa) definitely have the 20K baht in CASH, proof of onward travel in 30 days and proof of lodging. If they're gonna deny you entry they'll ask for onward travel before anything else.

It is totally possible to get a tourist visa in Savannakhet, IF you don't have an extensive entry/stay history in your passport. If you milked 2+ years of covid extensions, have a b/s, back door ED or volunteer visa or took two free visa exempt entries last year and then the two this year already, you may run in to problems. They also appear to be a "one and done" consulate, if you have a previous recent tourist visa you can't get another one. They tightened up because they were being hit hard by the visa run companies and some Mondays there'd be over 300 people in line. You definitely show the funds in a bank account like it says on the website as well. Word has it Vientiane (which requires à booked online appt to get in the gate, and more stringent requirements) doesn't care about previous entry stay history as much of at all

There is no issue at all bouncing out and back at the Mae Sai / Tachileik border, in a matter of minutes if you want to. 500 baht or a pristine 10 dollar US bill gets you a 14 day entry permit and you can stamp in and right back out of you want to.

Thai Visa Centre doesn't do visa runs, they hawk visas. From Bangkok, Thai Visa Service runs to Savannakhet twice a week and leave from the Tesco Lotus On Nut parking. http://www.thaivisaservice.com

Okay if you fly in and are denied entry as a rule they give you the option to go back to where you just flew in from Although you need to keep in mind that if you raise a fuss with them they can (at their discretion) send you back to the country of passport origin) <- so if you're denied entry by air while you're free to try to negotiate getting in do not argue with them to the point they decide you're going "home" ???? Where as IF you're denied entry by land they just turn you around and send you back to the country you just stamped out of <- meaning that country cancels your exit stamp and lets you back in Then you go to an airport to fly in or try to 'negotiate' a way in the following day <- that last one is seen a LOT at the Aranyaprathet / Poipet border where they will deny you entry and as soon as you're stamped back in to Cambodia two guys will approach you and say "we can get you in tomorrow when the border opens for xxx USD" ???? They can indeed get you in AT that border, without any difficulty, but it happens so much, and like clockwork that I think both sides of the border are in on it along with the touts who approach people when they're denied. Another good bit of info, IF you're denied by air do NOT (as in under NO circumstances) sign that form in thai that they fill in. Don't sign it, you don't get a denial of entry stamp in your passport, just shipped out. Sign it and you DO get that denial stamp in your passport. That's how it works and I know over a dozen people denied entry by air who refused to sign the form and did not get a denial of entry stamp in their passport. I mean it's still IN the immigration computer system but there's NO half page stamp saying you were denied in your passport

You sure that isn't "posers" on another forum? ???? The way a single entry tourist visa works is: You enter, get stamped in for 60 days, the visa itself gets stamped USED or struck thru, and you can extend that one 60 day entry by 30 more days at the immigration office where you stay for 1900baht. A re-entry permit WOULD let you exit/re-enter thailand BUT re-entry permits do NOT add any additional time to your entry/extension stamp, you'd get stamped in for the same expiration date you stamped out of the country on ????

I read that post and thought it was quite the conundrum as well. I can only think he bounced on his own without a service to get him out and back. Those services grease the wheels to get people back in the same day and I think they wouldn't have let him ON the bus if they couldn't bounce him out and back Also there is a HUGE difference between the Ban Laem/Duang and Ban Pakard/Phsar Prum borders, FEW border bounce companies will use Ban Pakard even though it's closer to some places because of the sketchy way they enforce policy. I would imagine there was a good deal of lost in translation, possibly poor border choice & maybe trying to bounce himself in the whole mix. As people pointed out bouncing out and in by land from an OA visa/extension without a re-entry permit to enter on a visa exempt entry is a common way to get off a visa with punitive insurance requirements so you can get a Non-O inside the country and then the year. Something threw a spanner in the works on his attempt . . ...

They totally DO care where you pull your extensions and any immigration officer can look at that stamp and know that it's an agent gotten out of province stamp. The reason they care is you didn't use THEIR office to get the back door, under the table, year extension <- which is a real extension just not from a province you lived in, or from an immigration office you use.. In fact most people with out of province agent gotten extensions don't even have the slightest idea what address is in the system for the extension in their passport. ????

You cannot change visa types inside the country (except to go from a tourist visa to a Non-Immgrant type one), so going from a Non-B to a Non-O can't be done HOWEVER WITH THAT BEING SAID I'd bet dollars to durian you don't have a Non-B VISA at all ????and instead if you read the stamp in your passport it probably says "extension of stay permitted until" and has a date stamped <- that is NOT a visa, it's exactly what it says, an extension FROM a visa.. AND You can change the reason for an extension from employment to one based on being over 50 (retirement) by cancelling your work permit, getting the termination paperwork from your employer, getting ALL the required documentation, bank letters, updated bank book, copies etc and going to the immigration office. You would cancel your current extension based on employment and then immediately apply for a new extension based on being over 50 (retirement). People change the reason for extensions all the time and this is a common "reason change" (employment to retirement) Before you're going to do this go to the immigration office where you live and get the hand out listing the requirements for the year extension based on retirement so you can get all the documents, you have just one chance to pull off the cancel current extension/apply for a new one, so get it right

To go from a yearly extension based on marriage to a thai to a yearly extension based on being over 50 (retirement) requires you to have the 800K baht in a thai bank account in your name only for 2 months before you apply for the extension. People switch the reasons for their extensions (from marriage to retirement and retirement to marriage all the time) Once you did get the year extension based on retirement issued you'd have to follow the seasoning requirements of the banked money method which means you would need to leave the 800K baht in the account for 3 months after you get the year extension granted, then the balance couldn't go below 400K baht the rest of the year.. Once you get back into thailand GO to your immigration office and get the hand out listing the requirements for the year extension based on being over 50 (retirement) so that when your current extension comes due you know what documents you'll need. (you've done it before so shouldn't be tough to meet the documentation requirements)

Sheesh this is a slow motion train wreck of a thread ???? FWIW: Jomtien has been requiring the 800K baht banked money method funds be in the account for 2 months to apply for the initial 90 day Non-O visa for a good long time now (as other groups Pattaya related have been talking about it for months and months). There's not much you can do. There's really no one to "complain to" as it's been their policy for a good while and you're unlikely to get high enough up the food chain of immigrationz to get to someone who could change it IF they wanted to. Your choice is to figure out how to do it ???? Astute posters pointed out that if you come here on a REAL single entry tourist visa, get your sh*t together, open the account, transfer the funds in, take the 1900baht 30 day extension and apply for the 90 day Non-O once the funds hit 2 months WILL work.. OR get the initial 90 day non-O from a thai consulate in a nearby country OR get the 90 day Non-O from your country before you wing your way here OR via an agent in Pattaya (of which there are possibly hundreds down there) It can be done, and hundreds, possibly thousands of people manage to pull it off without too much issue.

Short answer.. .. They wouldn't, and once you get the eVisa issued there is no obligation to fly in with the flight you uploaded for the visa application.

This is ONLY about whether the consulate is walk up or mandatory appt required AND the processing time. Processing time key; 2 working day <- apply one morning, pick your passport up the next business day in the afternoon 3 working day <- apply one morning pick your passport up TWO business days later in the afternoon Malaysia: Penang walk up service, 2 working day processing Kota Bharu walk up service, 2 working day processing Kuala Lumpur appt required, 2 working day processing Cambodia: Phnom Penh walk up service, 3 working day processing (tourist visa) 5 working day processing (any Non-Imm) Lao: Vientiane appt required 3 working day processing Savannakhet walk up service 2 working day processing Vietnam: Hanoi appt required 3 working day processing Ho Chi Minh City appt required 3 working day processing Singapore; Singapore apply online first 2 working day processing

Actually they DO take checking the type of insurance REALLY seriously and the can log in to the website that shows IF you're insured by one of the 12 approved thai insurers for the required 100K USD coverage. I think right now the cheapest premium you can get is thru LMG with one million baht deductible (basically it's insurance just to tick the box that you have it as you pay the first 33K USD of any claim ???? ) In addition to the paper you bring from your insurance company showing your coverage and the dates it's in effect, while you are waiting for your passport to be returned Immigrations logs into the TGIA website and checks that it's "registered" Here's a sample of what data they show when they look you up. This one is from a friend who got his OA extension just before the changes to the insurance where it went from 40k/400k to 100kUSD and the old 40/400 was accepted.

At this time, the thai consulate in Savannakhet Lao (across the river from Mukdahan Thailand) is the "softest touch" for tourist visas. I should qualify that, ???? They are the softest touch consulate IF you haven't milked the last 2+ years here on covid extensions, b/s, under the table, back door ED or Volunteer visas.. They are REALLY starting to look at peoples' entry/stay history with a critical eye lately.. They have the lowest requirements, do not require an appt to get in the gate and have 2 working day processing <- meaning you turn your passport in one morning, and pick it up the next business day afternoon. Mondays are TERRIBLE there because of all the visa run companies from Bangkok and Pattaya showing up. BUT Tuez or Thurz aren't bad https://tinyurl.com/tourist-visa-savannakhet

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The Immigration office in Bangkok where people on visa exempt entries go to get 30 day extensions at IT Square Laksi Plaza is HARD CORE about a TM30, Sadly (for people who need to go file one) you can't file a TM30 at that immigration office location ???? You can only do that at the main immigration office at the government complex (building B) Section B on Chaengwattana Road (about 3km away) They turn away a LOT of people every day, It seems they are really looking for people who have previous entry/extensions especially ones where you didn't use Bangkok for the extension. ???? Those were most of the people I saw turned away and told to get a TM30.

I would suggest exiting the country at the mukdahan border, going to the Thai consulate in Savannakhet Lao and getting either a 90 day single entry non o based on marriage, then come back and bank the 400k baht money for 2 months and apply for a year extension based on marriage. OR Get the year long, multi entry Non-O visa based on marriage at that consulate (no proof of funds needed) and just bounce in and out at the border every 90 days for the next year. You can get almost 15 months of stay out of that Visa in 90 day increments

Reluctant or not, if you want to change the reason for your yearly extension from retirement to a yearly extension based on marriage or raising half Thai children you bank 400,000 baht in a Thai bank account in your name only. For marriage the money must be banked for 2 months before you apply for your extension. There is no required seasoning for extensions based on raising children. If you've registered your address with the tm30 receipt and are filing 90-day reports with the immigration office where you live now, even with an out of province stamp you might be able to pull off the extension. Keep in mind if you used your friend to get that extension for you based on retirement and they banked the money for you, you were require to keep the 800k funds in the bank for 3 months after the extension was granted and then the balance could never go below 400,000. <-that could catch you out, or not You want the clause 2.18 in the current police order which is married to a Thai or raising half thai children.

We are seeing this more and more since the new 90-day reporting program rolled out because the TM47 database and the TM30 database are combined and when you file an online 90-day report it crossed checks against your last registered address in the TM30 system. No matter what your immigration office policy is about filing a new TM30, it is apparent from the many online 90 day report denials that if you travel inside Thailand and stay at a place where they register you in the TM 30 online system, when you return to your primary residence you will need to refile or update your tm30 information. If you don't, your next 90-day report online has a high chance of being rejected.

Just so everyone is clear that stamp was put in passport when that extension was issued. NOT when they stamped out of Thailand, It's the stamp that says why the extension was issued and under what police order 327/2557), clause 2.4 is the tourism extension, as you can see by the dates it's a 30 day extension While I'm sure they did stamp you child's passport when they left Thailand, that wasn't the stamp.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=th.go.immigration.section38 That should link to it