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ATTENTION; CANUCK MEMBERS This was the update on the Canadian Embassy in Bangkok F/B page They will discontinue the affidavit of income from abroad on April 1st, 2025 REMEMBER; that income affidavit is valid for 6 months from the date it's issued so if you use one and have an extension coming up in the next 6 months GET it just before they stop issuing it What this means is IF you as a canadian passport holder want to use monthly income to meet the proof of funds for extensions you will have to do what the Britz, 'Muricanz & Auzziez do since their embassies stopped issuing the letter. You have to transfer in to the country the required monthly minimum for the extension you want (40K baht for marriage, 65K baht for retirement) each month, every month for the previous 12 months BEFORE you apply for the next extension. Here's the link to their f/b page Canada to stop income affidavit

You get the 90 day Non-O visa from a thai consulate nearby You get 400K baht in a thai bank account in your name only, let it "season" for 2 months when you have 30 days or less left on that 90 day stamp you apply for a year extension based on marriage by showing the proof of funds and a pile of paperwork, photos, map, marriage certificates, etc, for 1900baht at the immigration office, you will get a 30 day under consideration stamp (in bangkok it's just a 21 day u/c stamp) you go back on that date and get the year extension inked in THEN you buy a multiple re-entry permit (3800baht) that lets you exit/re-enter the whole year and get stamped in until the end of your extension each time you re-enter

Sadly for you a re-entry permit will not do a thing 😞 All a re-entry permit would do on a single entry 90 day Non-O visa is give you the ability to exit/re-enter DURING that 90 days and get stamped in for the same expiration date <- it does NOT add time to that 90 day stamp. re-entry permit or not you're done after 90 days 😮 Since all the consulates switched over to the eVisa online web-portal the year-long, multi-entry Non-O visa (for marriage, retirement) was discontinued The funds to get the single entry Non-O visa DO NOT need to be seasoned (and can indeed be in a bank account in your country). Unless you're going to meet the requirements to get the year extension inside the country once that 90 days runs down, (by having 400k baht in a thai bank account in your name only for 2 months) about all you can get from that 90 day Non-O would be a "visit thai family" extension at the immigration office where you live for 60 days <- that doesn't require proof of funds Then when that runs down you'd go buy another 90 day Non-O single entry again. (OR you'd meet the requirements and get the year extension in country)

Good update, sounds like a typical "get off one extension by bouncing and apply for a new Non-O in country" scenario 1 - Exited to get off the Non-F extension you'd been on 2 - Entered 60 day visa exempt 3 - Went and applied at your immigration office for the in country Non-O for 2000baht **Waited the under consideration period 4 - Went back and got the Non-O visa and a new 90 day stamp inked in As DrJack54 said once you have 30 days or less left on that 90 day stamp & your 800K baht has been seasoned in the thai bank account in your name only for 2 months you can get all new documentation (bank letter, updated bank book, map, copies, TM30, lease, etc) and apply for the year extension for 1900baht Once they stamp that year extension of stay into your passport you can buy a multiple re-entry permit for 3800baht that will let you exit/re-enter the whole year and get stamped in until the extension you just got expires each time 🙂

Officers are usually pretty good about those "under consideration" stamps and will space them out so they don't hit a holiday 😮 Never the less as people advised just show up at Chaengwattana tomorrow get a queue for section L-2 (the section that "closes out" under consideration stamps based on marriage to a thai) and they'll in the year extension into your passport without much problem Personally I would show up after about 9am that way you let the "zombie horde" 😮 that waits in front of the door for them to open at 8:30 get in, get their queues and get to their sections.

Heads up people thinking of getting their DTV extension in Bangkok out at Chaengwattana Section J Some people are now reporting that they are getting a 2 week "under consideration" stamp and then have to show up that date to get the extension inked in I do not know if this is dependent on category you have your DTV for or what, BUT it is definitely happening Here's a stamp from Wednesday the 5th

Yep, in Bangkok, Chiang Mai, Buriram and a few other places you can indeed apply for a new extension when you have 45 days or less left on your current stamp

It has been a requirement to have a marriage to a thai from abroad registered at the local Amphur (where you get a Kor Ror 22 form) for a number of years. AND Sadly now that the brit embassy doesn't certify marriage certificates anymore you do send it to Milton Keynes, get them to stamp it then get it to the Thai Embassy in London to get it stamped there.. and after that you can register the marriage at the local Amphur to get the Kor Ror 22 (marriage of a thai abroad) form This is an OLD image I took at an agency that explained how to legalize a brit marriage to a thai abroad right after the UK embassy here stopped certifying marriages

Just so you and every other foreigner understands ALL the burma borders are closed to foreigners getting out and back except one Ranong - Kawthaung (Ranong Province) OPEN <-this is the boat crossing you do to burma Mae Sai - Tachileik (Chiang Rai Province) CLOSED Mae Sot - Myawaddy (Tak Province) CLOSED Phu Nam Ron - Htee Kee (Kanchanaburi Province) CLOSED

As a general rule there is not problem applying for a new yearly extension after your current one runs out. I've had friends just forget their renewal date and go as late as 35 days after their extension ran out, pay the 500baht a day fine, then get the year extension no problem at all I was told by an officer as long as the overstay is still accruing the 500 baht a day fine, you can pay the overstay and get the extension. So at least in theory you could apply for a new extension up to the 40th day you overstayed (because the fine caps at 20K after 500 a day for 40 days) A few days isn't gonna matter, BUT far more important than just paying the overstay and getting the extension is the fact you need to not get caught out on ANYTHING during the time you're on overstay before you get the extension as that will run you right off the rails. NOTE; I am not advocating overstay, nor downplaying the risk when you do, only stating in my experience that it is indeed possible to pay an overstay fine and get a new yearly extension

Okay after multiple tries to get the DTV extension of stay criteria paperwork from the main immigration at Chaengwattana Section J over about a month, going there every week to the section that does Tourist Visa & DTV extensions, I finally got it today. The first two pages are the Thai language and the last two are the english Could have already been posted sorry if it was That's the best I could do people 🙂

Just in case people are not familiar with what I call "one-n-done" (a Non-O 90 day visa, one year extension and re-entry permit all issued the same day at the immigration office) This is what the stamps look like. Every immigration officer/office in the country can take one look at those and know you didn't "push your own paper" <- get the visa/extension/re-entry on your own. Remember the standard "time line" for that whole process would be Apply for the 90 day Non-O visa for 2000baht WAIT 2 weeks for the under review period go back get the Non-O visa and new 90 day stamp inked in WAIT 2 months or until you have 30 days or less left on that 90 day stamp go back and apply for the year extension for 1900baht get the re-entry permit That's how people do it when they push their own paper and get their own visa/extensions and it spaces the stamps out over a 2 1/2 month period

Things that CAN help you if you're trying for an extension at the immigration office in in your province after you have an out of province agent gotten Non-O/extension. You needed to have a TM30 filed back at your local immigration office the day you got back after getting the visa, (it has to be filed AFTER you got that visa for them to "count it") Then you needed to be doing 90 day reports at the office that serves the area where you live for as long as you can BEFORE the next extension <- to show you really DO live up there AND You need to go to your office well before your extension comes due (like at least 6 weeks early) to have them look at the Non-O visa/extension stamps AND tell you if they will issue the extension based on those stamps. It's either going to be the stamps or the seasoning of the funds that will run you off the rails getting this next extension As far as your contingency plan to get OFF this current extension and on to a new Non-O visa You can go to the thai consulate in Savannakhet or Vientiane Lao and get a 90 day single entry Non-O visa for 2000baht in just a couple days. They are on the online, you go to Lao, apply online, upload the documents, go to the consulate to pay for the visa, wait for it to be approved. NO need to go back to Oz to get that 90 day Non-O

It is HIGHLY unlikely that you will be able to get a year extension on your own with "same day" Non-O / year extension stamps Those "one-n-done" 15 month retirement visas (even banking your own money) EVERY immigration officer in the country can see the time line is not correct on those stamps. There's no way you could have walked in to immigrations on your own and got those stamps, they will 100% know they were agent gotten by the out of sequence date stamps This is exactly why pattaya agents hold your passport for a month when they do Non-O with year extension, it spreads the stamps out to something that looks at least semi normal 🙂 You clearly didn't follow the 3 months after the extension was issued; which in "real time" (not make believe same day agent gotten time 😮 ) would have been counted from about 2 months after you got the initial Non-O issued) Let's do the math as if you had gotten the Non-O and extension above the table 😉 Getting the Non-O on June 5th, that meant you could have applied for the year extension when you had 30 days or less left on that SO about August 5 would be the soonest at most offices (although some offices allow you to apply for an extension when you have 45 days or less) That means counting from the earliest date you could have really applied for the extension if you did it above the table versus under it, you needed to have the funds in from June 5 to Aug 5 to hit the 2 month before requirement and then keep the funds in for 3 months after that to about 5 Nov before you could have pulled the balance down to 400K baht When you go to get your next yearly extension your immigration office will certainly see that you got a "one-n-done" Non-O/year extension issued the same day. They will know it was agent gotten. If by some wild reasoning they still let you apply for the year extension, when you give them the year detail transaction report from the bank you will not meet the seasoning requirements no matter how you want to count it (actual day you got the year OR actual day you SHOULD have been able to get the year) I've had several people use bangkok agents to get those one-n-done 15 month retirement visas in a day and most people get told by their immigration office next year to either bounce out/back and start OVER above the table or go back to the agent again to get the next year extension. <- meaning you're saddled with an agent for the foreseeable future on the stamps you had Sorry that was long, hopefully marginally helpful

Just so everyone understands that is a mistake where it says 5000,000 baht for the financials (as in it's NOT 5 million baht) it's only 500K baht 😛

Finally they have the DTV extension requirements posted on the Bangkok Immigration website It's under #39 DTV Extension Requirements

You left out the part that IF you do not use Cham Churi Square for your visa/extension you can't use that office for a certificate of residence 😞

500K baht is the amount required for a Non-O 90 day visa or a yearly extension of stay based on you are raising a foreign child here who is enrolled in school on an education visa. For the year extension the 500K baht seasoning is 30 days for the first year and 3 months for every year after that The financial requirements for a Non-O 90 day visa or yearly extension of stay based on marriage to a thai would be 400K baht For the year extension the 400K baht seasoning is 2 months before you apply for the extension

As people said, the real benefit is you get OUT and BACK without having to stay in the other country for as many days as the thai border guards say, without having to show proof you're leaving the country in 60 days (which more and more borders are asking for if you come in free stamp) and without having to show proof of lodging (another thing that borders are starting to ask for when people come in free stamp) The services that bounce you out and back have "pre-greased" the wheels (the border knows your passport, nationality, etc BEFORE you get there as the service sends it to them) Of course you still have to "go thru the process"; stamp out of thailand, go to the cambodian side, get the visa stuck in, stamp in and out of cambodia then come back to thailand to stamp in. BUT You did it without any issues and that's what you pay the service for

Switching from the proof of funds by banked money method on a retirement extension to the proof of funds by monthly income (by international transfer) is one of the hardest switches to do That's because you have to meet the requirements for the banked money on the extension you're currently ON now (have kept the 800K baht in a thai bank account in your name only for 3 months after the extension was granted, then not let the balance go below 400K baht the rest of the year) AND you have to transfer IN to a thai bank account in your name only from abroad a minimum of 65K baht a month, each month, every month, for the previous 12 months so you can show proof of funds by monthly income method on this next (the upcoming) extension

This is how the official rules are written; For banked money method on retirement extensions you need 800k in the bank 2 months before you apply for the extension. The 800k stays in the account for 3 months after the extension is granted. And then the balance cannot go below 400k for the rest of the year. So in your case you would have had to kept 800k in the bank for 3 months after your extension was issued last year and then not let the balance go below 400k the rest of the year. Plus as you are stretching mysterious for proof of funds you would have to had transferred in a minimum of 65k per month, each month, every month, for the previous 12 months before you apply for this next extension In essence you are meeting requirements for two extensions the one you're currently on that you used banked money method and the monthly income method that you will be using to apply for the next extension that requires monthly international transfers.

You got your border crossings mixed up a little bit, Chian Saen you cross by boat to the special economic zone (where kings Roman casino is) and at Chiang Khong you cross by bridge to Huay Xai. Right now if you bounce your self they are indeed asking you to stay out two days (sometimes one), and when you stamp back in they are asking you to show proof that you're going back to your country in 60 days, plus they are asking proof of lodging for the time you will be here on your new 60-day stamp You can use a service like Chiang Mai Visa Run, they have it set up so you can get out and back the same day and not show proof of onward travel or proof of lodging when you stamp back in. That is the reason you use a service because the wheels are pre-greased at the border when you show up versus the I will bounce myself and save money ideas that don't often work out saving you anything. Even the easiest land border in all of Thailand in Nong Khai is tightening up and having people stay out overnight.

I am seeing a LOT of posts on the tiny part of the inter-web that is thai related where people are confusing THREE completely different things 😮 1; Visa Exempt Entry The switch from 30 to 60 day visa exempt entries (that started 15th July last year) is STILL in effect for the 90+ countries they listed. So if you're from one of those countries you can just show up, get stamped in free stamp (Visa Exempt) for 60 days and get one 30 day extension on it at the immigration office like normal for 1900baht 2; ETA (Electronic Travel Authorization) program This WAS a program which was to pilot at the end of Dec. It was for people coming in to thailand on a visa exempt entry and set up so that people would apply online for pre-approval to enter. This program has been 𝗣𝗢𝗦𝗧𝗣𝗢𝗡𝗘𝗗 and there is no current projected date for it to start. We know it will roll out sometime this year but have no news about it 3; eVisa online program All the remaining thai consulates in the world (who weren't on the eVisa portal) switched over to the online web program on Jan 1st 2025 <- this means there are no longer any "walk up and apply" Thai consulates to get visas at anymore 😮 So if you want to BUY a visa for thailand from a thai consulate; you GO to the country whose consulate you're going to use, you log in to the online web-portal, select your passport and the country you're in, (then the correct consulate if there are more than one) upload your documents, upload proof you're in that country (visa/entry stamp) pay and then wait IN that country for the visa to be approved**. ** You will note I stated after you apply you WAIT in that country until the eVisa is approved or rejected. The consulates are catching on that people were going to their country applying then coming back to thailand to wait for the eVisa to be approved (for some reason especially with the DTV demographic 😛 ) AND to check that the person is still in the country of the thai consulate they applied for the visa, thru we are seeing more and more reports that about 3 to 5 days after you submit the application you get an email "request for additional documents" 😮 They ask for copies of every page of your passport (blank pages too) so they can see if you bailed out and went back to thailand. People have had their visas rejected because they did 😕 My advice is just wait it out, get the email with the eVisa PDF, print it out, then present the PDF with your passport to the officer when you stamp in.. AND always check your stamp to make sure you were stamped in the correct amount of time, and on the correct visa type <- it is the passport holders responsibility to check the entry stamp is correct Hope this helps people understand the difference between those 3 things 🙂 , Have a safe and healthy new year !!!

that was totally NOT correct 😞 Most offices require you have a minimum of 15 days left on your current stamp (Chiang Mai requires you have a minimum of 21 days) Many people have to bounce out/back to get a new visa exempt entry stamp so that they can do the Non-Immigrant visa application INSIDE the country at the immigration office because the stamp they're on doesn't have the required time. That is a totally valid reason for bouncing out and back, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗜 𝘁𝗼𝗹𝗱 𝗵𝗶𝗺 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗜 𝗵𝗮𝗱 𝗮𝗹𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗱𝘆 𝗯𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗮𝗽𝗽𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗰𝗲𝘀𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗜 𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗱𝗲𝗱 𝟯𝟬 𝗱𝗮𝘆𝘀 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗼𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗺 𝘃𝗶𝘀𝗮 𝘁𝗼 𝗯𝗲 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗰𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗲𝗱 . you couldn't have "already begun" anything as far as the in country visa, because you didn't have the time on your stamp to start the process 😞 I think that is what messed him up, you needed a NEW stamp to START the process

You search for the data with the date you filed it in BOTH search date boxes, You use the passport and nationality only Then it will call up the data