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THis is how Trump voters are "farmed" by people like the Russians https://www.facebook.com/share/r/196tDBNCub/

Those who portray immigration as a problem do so not from a position of evidence or reason, but from a place of fear, ignorance, and hate. Their arguments are not grounded in reliable evidence. Instead, they rely on harmful generalizations and emotionally charged rhetoric. They misrepresent the people they label as “illegal,” ignoring both the complex legal realities and the humanity of those individuals. Such critics fail to recognize the vital economic, cultural, and social contributions that immigrants—documented or not—make to the societies in which they live. They conveniently overlook that many migrants take on difficult, low-paid work that others refuse to do, helping keep entire sectors running, from agriculture and construction to elder care and hospitality. Moreover, these detractors rarely show any understanding or curiosity about the circumstances that drive people to leave their homelands—whether it’s war, persecution, economic desperation, or environmental disaster. Instead, they reduce individuals with hopes, families, and dreams to faceless threats. True discourse on immigration must start from a place of empathy, context, and fact. To do otherwise is not just intellectually lazy—it’s morally wrong. Dehumanizing people who seek a better life doesn't solve any problem; it only fosters division, cruelty, and injustice.

that's exactly what you said - I was quoting you!

Thailand has a long history of fake cops - about 15 years go the police admitted there were dozens operating in Bangkok alone.

Actually wrong in both cases. Western miimgrant grossly over=estimate their value to the Thai economy - especially when it comes to healthcare. Refugees around the world are NOT permitted to work on arrival, they do however in a lifetime, claim much less befits than "natives" do. THey also improve both economy and workforce.

You're an immigrant or a holidaymaker - An immigrant is any person who moves from their country of origin to another country with the intention of residing there for an extended period. This includes individuals who relocate for various reasons such as work, study, family reunion, retirement, or lifestyle changes. In the context of Thailand, immigrants encompass foreign retirees choosing to spend their golden years in the country, expatriates working for local or international companies, long-term residents on various types of visas, digital nomads, and anyone else establishing a significant presence outside their home country.

THat's how in=mmigrants are regarded and you are an immigrant.

It's clear you've reached you illectuall limit and it's way below the level of this discussion - you resort to the classiccliche - ‘Unless you’re the police, you can’t possibly know anything.’ That might work if illegal work and visa scams weren’t openly discussed in expat bars, flaunted on YouTube, and advertised in Facebook groups. You don’t need a badge to recognize a guy teaching English with a tourist visa or running a café in someone else’s name. Willful blindness doesn’t make the problem invisible — it just makes it easier for those abusing the system to keep doing it.

So as a bald Brummy ex-military, you think that my job and living in Thailand doesn't give me a good picture of who;s working illegally - BTW I've actually worked at immigration too!

so as an immigrant you are complaining about immigrants in your home country living 5, 6 ,7 rto a room in <deleted>ty "hotel" - of course th owners think its Christmas, just as your landlords would.

How many to a room would you accept in your hotel?

Would you like to live in a hotel room instead?

Living and working on Samui.

= "grunter" - I see that someone (x2) even grunted at an empty post.

we have a name now for those who click on the "thumbs down" icon = "grunters"

completely mad, based on personal prejudice with no research or even practical knowledge.

THey need to clean up all the Samui archipelago - there are dozens of foeireigners either over staying or on illegal visas, working without permits, bribing local police etc etc Ex military are the worst to blame.

Exactly - what is amazing is you are unable to see it in your posts. - why is it that racists spend so uch time arguing that something isn't racist....and think that misuse of evidence is a justification. ypou are using the people on flights to justify your racial prejudice.

that's EXACTLY what it is!

I don’t drink. But I do read — you should try it sometime. So, I’m sober enough to see through cultural arrogance. "With all due respect"… usually means none is coming, right? In reality it’s a form of passive-aggression - you’re about to disagree or belittle, but don’t want to look openly hostile. Do you really think that using this rhetorical shield works or are you intentionally trying to be confrontational? Respect is something you earn - as this is a discussion about Thai culture I find it hard to respect your contribution.

I see "grunter" is back.

A lot of the language in this thread leans heavily on classic racist tropes. For example, the constant overuse of the 3rd person - “they,” “them,” and “their” to generalize about an entire nationality creates an “us vs. them” narrative — as in “They always do this” or “They come here to...”, "they do this", "they do that") You also see “thai” written with a lowercase "t", which isn't just lazy — it’s often used deliberately to dehumanize or stereotype, lumping a whole population into one negative caricature. The underlying message seems to be that Thai people are somehow irrational or inferior, while "Westerners" are the benchmark for sense, logic, and reason — a tired and occido-centric arrogant comparison that says more about the poster than the people they’re describing.

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most "manners" were adopted by Georgian royalty in Britain to keep te aristocrats under control.... most "manners" were adopted by Georgian royalty in Britain to keep the aristocrats under control....mannes, sense and common sense are all cultural constructs and a lot of self-centred expats have no idea that their idea of sense and sensibilities are not the same as th ountry they are living in - hence the rubbish posted on this thread just ravel around western Europe and you'll see a huge variation in what people call "manners"

Comes from China and in many S.E. Asian cultures - people seldom say hello or yes or no. The Thai greeting "sawatdee, khrap" is an artificial express derived from the sanskrit - the language used with royalty, (and the same origin as the word "swastika".) When greeting you say some thing about the bleeding obvious - like "going shopping!" the reply being "going shopping" or just "shopping". If you are being asked a question, you generally say YES, by repeating the key word back to the person asking, or you negate that word to say NO, you are not doing that verb. - The affirmative instead of yes one tends to repeat what the other person says "is this pork"? The answer is - "pork, khap" not yes it is - If someone says "it's raining" the answer is "raining, khrap" Obviously you also add "khrp/Kha" - to these simple phrase or sometimes just the polite ending particle, Do you like pizza? A- like (it), or not... (I) don’t like (it). THe pronouns are usually removed and just the key verb or noun left THen as in China if you don't actually no what the other person is doing, you fall back on "Have you had your rice yet" - friend of mine once misunderstood this and replied no - they practia;ly stopped the train to find him some food.