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kwilco

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  1. 15 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

    Understand what? Please explain it to me as if I were five years old – as you know, I am not the sharpest tool in the box.

    Exactly. QED – I've already explained Brandolini's law, or the Bull<deleted> Asymmetry Principle, and you giving it are a perfect example.

    "You have just produced 100 words; those could have been put to better use. As a superior mind, do you not have a moral duty to work for the greater good and parse what is right from wrong? If not, then why are you a regular contributor to the Off the Beaten Track subforum?" – and there you go!

  2. 26 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

    Are you trying to disprove Rogan's point that Michael Collins wrote that he saw stars in his 1974 book Carrying the Fire: An Astronaut's Journeys?

    Excerpts:

    "To add to the dramatic effect, we find we can see the stars again. We are in the shadow of the moon now, in darkness for the first time in three days, and the elusive stars have reappeared."

    "My God, the stars are everywhere: above me on all sides, even below me somewhat, down there next to that obscure horizon. The stars are bright and they are steady."

    do you genuinely not understand that??

  3. he Apollo moon landings (1969–1972) are supported by a vast, independent, and scientifically verified body of evidence that makes faking them technologically and practically impossible. The proof ranges from physical lunar samples to independent observations by rival nations.

    Here are the main points that prove the moon landings were not a hoax:

    1. Physical Evidence: Lunar Samples (Moon Rocks)

    • 382kg of Moon Rocks: Apollo astronauts brought back 382 kilograms (842 pounds) of moon rocks, core samples, and dust.

    • Unique Characteristics: These rocks are distinct from Earth rocks—they are entirely devoid of water, have tiny "glass spherules" (formed by meteorite impacts, not volcanic activity), and show evidence of high-speed micrometeorite bombardment.

    • International Verification: These samples have been shared with scientists in dozens of countries for decades and have all been verified as having a lunar origin.

      BBC +4

    2. Physical Evidence: Third-Party & Independent Imagery

    • Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO): NASA’s LRO, in orbit since 2009, has captured high-resolution images of all Apollo landing sites, clearly showing the lunar modules, equipment, and even astronaut footprints.

    • Independent International Imaging: Other nations' probes—Japan’s SELENE (2008), India’s Chandrayaan-1 and 2, and China’s Chang’e 2—have photographed or identified Apollo hardware and lander exhaust dust marks, providing independent verification.

      Wikipedia +1

    3. Scientific Evidence: Laser Retroreflectors

    • Mirrors on the Moon: Apollo 11, 14, and 15 missions left behind "lunar laser ranging retroreflectors" (mirrors).

    • Operational Today: Scientists from the U.S., France, Germany, and Australia have fired lasers at these reflectors for over 50 years to measure the Earth-Moon distance to the centimeter, confirming they are still in place.

      Wikipedia +4

    4. Third-Party Tracking and Monitoring

    • Soviet Tracking: The United States' biggest rival during the Space Race, the Soviet Union, monitored the missions through its own intelligence and surveillance network. They knew the spacecraft was traveling to the Moon and would have exposed a hoax instantly.

    • Independent Observers: Radio operators and observatories in several countries, including Britain's Jodrell Bank Observatory, tracked the flights to the Moon and back.

      Wikipedia +1

    5. Debunking Common "Hoax" Claims

    • The "Waving" Flag: The flag used a horizontal rod to keep it unfurled in a vacuum. It only rippled while the astronauts were actively planting it; it remained perfectly still afterwards.

    • No Stars in Photos: Apollo missions landed during the lunar day. The sunlit surface was extremely bright, requiring short camera exposures that did not capture the faint stars in the black sky.

    • Van Allen Radiation Belts: NASA knew of the radiation risk and designed the spacecraft with shielding, choosing a high-speed trajectory that minimized time spent in the most dangerous parts of the belts.

      BBC +4

    6. The "Impossible to Fake" Argument

    • Technology Limitations: In 1969, the technology required to fake the photographic lighting (recreating parallel sunlight) and the lunar surface shadows did not exist, especially not on the massive scale required to create hours of video.

    • Massive Participation: Over 400,000 scientists, engineers, and workers were involved in the Apollo project. Keeping such a secret for over 50 years would be impossible.

    • Multiple Missions: Conspiracy theorists often focus on Apollo 11, but there were six successful crewed landings.

      EBSCO +4

    In summary, the physical, photographic, and scientific evidence—verified by the global scientific community and independent foreign powers—confirms that humans did indeed land on the Moon.

  4. Trump is showing how little he understands about the Straights of Hormuz.

    He is asking other countries, after initially saying they were "too late" to escort tankers through the Straights.

    WHAT??? How does he think that will work....all Iran has to do is mine the Straights....no amount of warships can prevent that.

    The Britsh navy used to have a fleet of minesweepers nearby, but they have been depleted to nothing.

    Trump simply has no idea of what is happening and his short sharp shock is no longer "short" or "fun"

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