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"Encounter" - thay sums up your attitude perfectly Your really take the biscuit - annoying stalker that you are - if you disagree with anything I've posted on Soi Dogs why don't you actually express it rather than just issue vague ad homs? I suspect you don't have an argument at all but as a stalker just want to gainsay anything I post

Another fatuous comment

So now i have a stalker....how sad you are! You ignorance appears to be boundless.

You don't seem to understand the principle of CNVR.

SDF do get funding from other sources and I believe the BMA have chipped in. SDF intend to have 10 full time mobile units operating in Bkk.

I've had to claim a couple of times and they settled over the phone in the hospital and I never paid a thing.

THis needs to be explained. It sounds like he did everything right -so which insurance company laid on the "complexities"???

What you say contradicts all the evidence The only place any kind of cull works is on small islands. The only possibility with dogs would be with extremely low dog populations. With Thailand and Bangkok this is not possible. Firstly there are practical considerations - take BKK - how would you kill the dogs? and where you put 300,000 dog corpses? (please don’t suggest poisoning) – You would also have to take on all the Buddhists in Thailand But the main reason is no cull can be 100% efficient - all that happens is the "gaps" created by a load of dead dogs. “Removing” these stray dogs creates a void in the local ecosystem, which is quickly filled by remaining dogs reproducing or new dogs entering the area from outside. Dogs can breed at a prodigious rate. By moving into the area, these new dogs actually accelerate the spread of diseases like rabies So the result of a cull is ineffective..... within weeks the situation the situation gets back to how it was. Despite what you seem to thing sustainable methods like Catch-Neuter-Vaccinate-Return (CNVR) programs actually work and are working in Phuket and Bangkok. They may appear slow but they are EFFECTIVE and reduce the risk of zoonotic diseases In fact I doubt if you could find a single example of a successful dog cull anywhere in the world

In total, there are estimated to be as many as 8.5 million roaming dogs in Thailand. In BKK it is estimated to be between 100k and 300k Culling doesn’t work CNVR does (Catch Neuter Vaccinate and Return). This approach is the only proven, sustainable and humane method of reducing the stray animal population. In BKK the SDF has CNVR’d over half-a-million animals. Over the last 20 years they have treated over a million animals. Although some people have noticed the difference in Bangkok, many people are not aware of this. The only way a stray dog population can survive is if there is food and somewhere to breed – the lamentable refuse collection and disposal infrastructure is largely to blame and the idea of making merit by feeding stray dogs doesn’t help….as well as the abundance of derelict urban sites. A fully sterile population and limited food will eventually reduce the population size, Most studies suggest that 70% neutered is generally needed for a sustained population decline. This would vary according to circumstances. A similar figures apply to vaccination and the spread of rabies and other zoonotic diseases

The reason there are more cats visible is that since 2003 the Soi Dog has spayed/neutered and vaccinated tens of thousands of stray dogs and cats throughout Thailand, and, in 2023, surpassed the milestone of one million animals neutered

you've missed the point! They get spay/neuter surgery - so it doesn't matter if they bonk they are sterile

Suggesting culling indicated you don't understand the problem - culling doesn't work. In fact it just starts and endless battle itself.

THe best Expat can offer is an SUV soft roader. So I'm hoping I might have got a useful res[onse from someone in the know instead you seem to be inferring I don't know what I'm doing - i am fully aware where and how to rent a 2 wheeled drive vehicle - I want to rent a 4x4 which is a specialist thing - I'm perfectly capable of deciding for myself whether or not I want a 4x4, and I resent the implication I don't know what I'm doing. If you have a good knowledge of 4x4s in Thailand then you might have some good advice to give but I don't think that is the case. THis is not about whether i need a 4x4 or not, it is a question about where I can rent one.

Expats re mostly 2 wheel drive and I doubt they have cover for dirt roads. I'm looking for a specialist or at least semi-specialist of an individual or 4x4 club

Snow? - Sounds like you're being facetious - I'm asking where I can rent one not disclosing what I want to do with it. Do you know where I can rent one?

Anyone know where I can rent a good 4x4 for about a month? Pattaya/ Chonburi / Rayong or even Bangkok area, preferably

BTW - apart from ad hom, what point are you trying to make?

Take a look t the past tests in various States in the USA, Belgium and several other countries in Europe and around the world - a driving test is a single one day event - in no way does it guarantee good driving for life. Many people one this site took really simple driving tests yet they feel their experience makes tham 'experts" in theoir eyes - in fact what they call "experience" is just the accumulation of bad habits. Even in UK you can have a licence for those who "can't change gear" - and that goes for the majority in the USA...

Yes – I’ve seen these new figures - but if you look up other sites you will see they say UK and Thailand are broadly the same. I must say I'm inclined to look at these figures with interest but you must bear in mind they are a one quote wonder and even if accurate don't support your hypotheses. - As you admit you don't read up on road safety - you seem just cherry pick your favourite one quote wonder. However it does highlight the poor gathering of stats in Thailand and the public's naive following of whatever nugget the media decides to throw up that suits them. You need to understand how confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance work. Even if th figures are accurate it doesn’t contradict my hypothesis. The figures you quote give a daily crash rate as 6 to 7 times higher than the UK, but a death rate 12 times higher which is still a massive discrepancy. As yet the criteria for these collisions in Thailand is not set - in fact according to the wording it may be no more than an estimate - in the UK the opposite is true as they have decades of accurate comparisons to make. THE next problem is how they are categorised - i.e. - death, serious injury minor injury or insurance claim. If for instance you look at the official figures for successive Songkhrans, you'll see the daily collision rate is around 350 in both countries. You use for the UK a secondary source when you could have used the National government source updated in 2023. For you Thai source you are using "As many as 939,713 road accidents were reported in Thailand last year, up 4.7% from 2021, the Thailand Road Accidents Data Centre for Road Safety Culture (ThaiRSC)" THis is from here - but at present it's in Thai only https://www.thairsc.com/eng/ This is a new single source from the relatively new institution which I can't cay is wrong but it needs to be reviewed - the UK source has been running for about 70 years. I certainly have a problem with the phrase "As many as " What people fail to understand is the basic difference between the UK and EU countries and Thailand is not the collisions themselves. it is the lack of protection offered by road safety systems in Thailand The problems are education, enforcement, engineering (road and vehicle) and importantly emergency and finally evaluation. Hence the huge discrepancy in statistics and people's ability to interpret what they say. Anyway it would appear your opinion is pretty worthless as you admit when it comes to being serious about road safety " I promise I won't be reading it?"[-RR]

If you believe that story.

If the rider doesn't have a full M/C licence it wouldn't make any difference.

depands on what insurance the other party had - they may argue he was driving illegally. ...and I doubt if the other party will accept any blame anyway.

Only minimal insurance coes when you pay the road tax - very few rentals have anything more than that.

the minimum "road traffic act" insurance that comes with a M/C covers anyone regardless of blame for emergency only But of course the bike has to be taxed in the firt place - without that he's due for another 10000 baht fine

I wouldn't believe a single word reported in the press - there needs to be a proper crash report. Something the local police seem incapable of doing. Of course if he didn't have a full D/L and IDP the 3rd party would say he's not covered either.