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THat's a rather facile response - firstly the effects of alcohol etc are calculated by numbers in millions - you are just one - but when it comes to parasitic infections it is a different health issue that can be avoided - you are making a false dichotomy.

Rubbish! You don't understand how bacteria settle and thrive - You've read something somewhere about bacteria on vegetables and famously got it wrong. most bacteria are on the surface of uncooked meat where they thrive. As for vegetables themselves, they aren't inherently sterile, but they can indeed harbour bacteria from various sources. Here are some of the main culprits: Soil and water: Vegetables grow in soil and are often irrigated with water, both of which can contain naturally occurring bacteria like E. coli and Salmonella. Manure: Some farmers use manure as fertilizer, which can introduce harmful bacteria into the soil and onto the vegetables. Animals: Wild animals and insects can come into contact with vegetables during growth, potentially leaving behind bacteria like Listeria. Handling and processing: During harvesting, transport, and processing, vegetables can come in contact with contaminated surfaces, equipment, or human hands, introducing bacteria like Staphylococcus aureus. So wash vegetables, but don't be paranoid. Washing with clean water significantly reduces bacterial levels on vegetables. it removes soil, dirt, debris, and so a good portion of surface bacteria. Peeling some vegetables can also further reduce bacteria. Some veggies are more prone to bacterial contamination than others: Leafy greens: Due to the large surface area and tendency to trap dirt, leafy greens like spinach (watch out Pop-eye!) and lettuce require a good washing. Bean sprouts are grown in warm, humid conditions, which are ideal for bacterial growth. You should wash or cook/blanche before consuming them. Pre-cut vegetables are convenient, but have more exposed surface area, making them prone to contamination during processing. As I said, ta large proportion of people actually contaminate themselves - e.g. hygiene in the kitchen, including washing hands and utensils frequently, can prevent the spread of bacteria fand hand to mouth contamination is very common - that is why smoking is banned in kitchens in most countries.

upper class twit of the year?

Thanks....they're taking their time!

does anyone know if they have re-opened the Grand Seaview at Nation yet?

"Allegation and evidence" - you love sealioning dont' you? Haven't you got anything else you can spell?

QED - You've lost the plot in a morass of your own sealioning poop - here's a reminder "The People’s Safety Foundation has made an appeal to the government for stricter safety policies to mitigate road accidents as Thailand gears up for the New Year’s celebrations."

You aren't interested in the topic are you? Your only interest is in bickering. I haven't made any "retorts" it just shows your lack of argument...instead of which you resort to ad hom. Why don't you get back on topic? Or do you not know what it is?

you can't speak English can you? Do you know Dunning Kruger? THey know you.

these stations are quite good - much better than the old signs.

I do and have been doing so for nearly 20 years.

This is just FOOLISH! - It just shows how little you understand about the whole topic. You post one quote from a commercial (quack) web site that has absolutely nothing to do with the Box- Jelly which is one of the most venomous creatures on the planet. If you follow that site you would actually increase your chances of death. If you rub anything on the tentacles stuck to the body you accelerate the injection of one of the most deadly venoms on the planet. Bless them - even they don't claim protection against the Box-jelly venom - do you actually know what it does??? It's nothing to do with inflammation it gets in the bloodstream and destroys your internal functions you can't rub oil on your heart! - it causes cutaneous pain, inflammation and necrosis, hypertension followed by hypotension, cardiovascular collapse, and cardiac arrest. Do what do you think tea-tree oil will do for that?

As said you have no idea what freedom is. Why not get on topic and relate it to road safety?

THat is of course rubbish - you are just recalling some anecdote. You don't know what jellyfish it was and although there is a folk medicimne habit of doing this, it hasn't been proven. tHe main thing about a box-jelly sting is that the tentacles keep on stinging as bits of tentacle attach to the sking. You shouldn’t touch or compress the sting. Additionally, avoid rinsing the area with fresh water, alcohol, or ice packs. The application of these substances can cause more toxins to come out and make the sting worse. so, if you rub with any poultice or try to remove them they ire more venom into the body and increase the chances of death - that is why it is recommended that you pour vinegar over the tentacles for about 30 seconds - it doesn't help with the pain but it it paralyses the 'cnidocytes" that release the stingings. so rubbing anything on the tentacles is likely. to make the sting worse. Treating a bluebottle sting is not the same as the box-jelly.

I used to live in Queensland and they have been familiar with the main box-jellies for over a century there the first recorded death was 1883 - I'm surprised that the poor woman didn't realise they existed around Thailand. In Thailand there is evidence of box-jellies going way back but for it to be a rweal problem, you need more people in the sea - 30 years ago the number of scantily clad people in the sea was much lower and Thai people used to swim fully clothed. Rember too that there are dozens of species of box-jellies so you can't attribute the same life cycle to each one.

Why is it that people withthe most lack of comprehension always start "sealioning" and talking about "facts" when they clearly don't know what a fact is - and I haven't made any allegations that aren't based on EVIDENCE and reason.

THe beaches are meant to have vinegar stations - but they are often neglected and fall into disuse THe usually cycle after a stinger incident in Thailand is a bit of precautions after an incident and then everyone conveniently forgets about it. Some resorts do these days put stinger nets up - anyone staying should check if they are still there. TH original signs put up warning of jellies were just a joke - a jumble of hopeless images - basically local busnesses don't want to get a bad reputation for these life-threatening animals.

NEVER piss on a box-jelly sting - it is a dangerous myth.

Not exactly - there are 2 monsoons in Thailand - the Southwest from the Indian ocean and the Northeast from China. The Northeast starts around November and brings about nationally the cool dry season. It is not clear how the 2 monsoons would affect the life cycle of regional box-jellies. They appear in almost all waters on both sides of Thailand. On Samui archipelago th Northeast picks up moisture from the Gulf of Siam and drops it on those islands and parts of the South - it usually clears up around end of December to the beginning of Jan. They still have the normal "wet" season from May onwards, it's just that the isles are sheltered from the worst by the Kra isthmus. There has been little research into the local box-jelly natural history and assumptions are made that it was similar to the Queensland species which spawns in estuaries between October and June on that side of the tropics. However the numbers of incidents in Thailand are too low to suggest a "season". Furthermore, AFAIA, there has as yet been no confirmed source of the box-jellies (Irukandji have a differing life cycle, too) - If they spawn in estuaries, which ones do they spawn in? - Box-jellies are capable of swimming as fast as a human can but I can’t find information of where from or how they migrate in Thailand - are they spawning on the islands (there aren't that many estuaries) or are they migrating from the mainland? It is also known that corals and other marine animals' life cycle may be affected by lunar cycles.

This happened a month ago.... it doesntseem the public wre I formed. Many consider these jellies are only around in the wet. This would seem to indicate that is incorrect. They also mention the possibility of Irakandji which is a totally different animal being the size of your thumb

Your idea of "freedom" is naive in the extreme. BTW since 2017 Under Thai law, the beds of pickup trucks are reserved for cargo, not humans. Everyone in a passenger vehicle must wear a seat belt. Parking laws are marked on the curbs in Thailand. Rod fishing in Thailand doesn't require you to have a licence. But you need to fish only in designated fishing spots and fishing in marine reserves and national parks is subject to different government policies. Your definition of freedom seems to mean breaking the law and doesn't take into account the effect your actions have on others or the environment

I believe local governments are allotted all their funds via central government - so they'll probably just knock it off that.

No they jolly-well haven't!!!! ...and is that supposed to address the causes - they are pretending iyt masks the symptoms! I suspect in many countries he would be a charlatan.

Sorry, don't follow any of that.

might be just what the GF wants.