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if you own the car, it is very easy especially after the first time. Thailand and Laos have an agreement. You need a "purple book" the car "passport" This costs about 250 baht and is available from any DLT office. Takes about 1 or 2 hours. Valid passport for at least six months with a few blank pages - You'll generally need at least two to four blank pages in your passport for entry stamps. Original blue/green book (vehicle registration document) Photocopies of the passport bio page and vehicle registration document (2 copies each) Valid driver's license (an International Driving Permit is recommended but not needed fir a Thai d/l) Temporary import permit (obtained at the Thai border) don't lose this its required for re entry) Lao vehicle insurance (can be obtained at the border costs about 500 baht) Passport photo (for Laos visa on arrival, if required) Laos temp import documents obtained on entry I used to cross regularly. From the centre of Savannakhet to Big C in Mukdahan would take about 35 minutes. The fact is that many vehicles cross back and forth between Thailand and Laos every day and once you know the procedure, it is the quickest way to cross the border. You don't even have to hand your passport in fir a Laos VOA as they will often process it along with your vehicle.

so when someone from AN moves to Thaiger it raises the IQ of both parties,

No Sealioning – comes from the noise a sealion makes – it is similar to a small kid who finds he can get an adult’s attention by repeating the word “why?” A Sea-Lion never provides their own facts or logic, or discuss the actual words of the person they sealion. They claim to be in a cordial discussion, and from there essentially play a game of chicken with their opponent. When the other person doesn’t answer their facile or irrelevant requests, the sealion then tries declaring them self a “winner” of the debate by default. It’s a kind of online harassment disguised as a civil debate. The main characteristics are thus….. Relentless requests for evidence: The person will pepper you with questions, often repetitive or irrelevant, demanding evidence for even basic points. Feigning sincerity: They'll act interested in having a genuine discussion, but it's a facade. Their real goal is to wear you down. They might use polite language but their requests are intended to be annoying and exhausting. Imagine someone constantly asking for proof for well-known facts, pretending they don't understand. That's sealioning in a nutshell.

As a reminder, here's the list of incidents on Koh Tao in the last 20 years or so..... List of some of the deaths rapes etc. on Koh Tao. It isn’t necessarily complete but it gives some idea of the situation there. 2002 – Viret Asaiachin shot dead in broad daylight – an organised crime like assassination. Japanese tourist died after drinking game 2004- The case is of a woman named Yoshie “Sharlyn” Sazawa that lived on the island for 12 years and worked as a scuba instructor before her untimely death. Put down to suicide. 2006 – SAMUI - as missing 21-year-old backpacker Katherine Horton, from a small town near Cardiff. Beaten into submission with a parasol on Samui's Lamai beach the previous evening, Horton had been raped twice before being left to drown in the sea near to the resort where she had been staying - https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2006/apr/08/travelnews.weekendmagazine American engineer Kris Perkins, who's been running a bar in the main beach resort of Chaweng since 2003. He was critically injured when he was shot twice by a Thai gangster after remonstrating with rowdy party-goers at a guesthouse above his bar. It is clear that at least earlier in this century, Samui itself suffered from the same “gangster-style” shootings rapes and murders. Surely as the island became more and more populated those sorts of “chao por” moved back to other islands 2012 - Ben Harrington,32, died when he crashed during a moped ride – allegedly robbed 2013 - Tony Cordullo - owner of the Lotus bar 2014 - Nick Pearson, 25, from the UK. On New Year’s Day in 2014, he was found floating in a bay beneath a 15m cliff. He had no broken bones. Police ruled out foul play but his family believe he was murdered. 2014 - Hannah Witheridge, 23, and David Miller, 24, from the UK. In September 2014, the couple were found bludgeoned to death close to where they were staying. Ms Witheridge had been raped. Two Burmese bar workers were found guilty of their murders the following year and sentenced to death. 2016 - Luke Miller, from the Isle of Wight, was reportedly found floating in a pool on the island. 2015 - Dimitri Povse, 29, from France. On New Year’s Day in 2015, he was found hanging in a bungalow. Police ruled his death a suicide but couldn’t explain why his hands were tied behind his back. 2015 - Christina Annesley, 23, from the UK and born in New Zealand. In January 2015, she was said to have died of natural causes after mixing antibiotics with alcohol. No toxicology report was conducted. Her family are suspicious. 2015 - Valentina Novozhyonova, 23, from Russia. In March 2015, she vanished from her hostel, with her mobile phone, passport and camera left behind. She is still missing. 2016 - Luke Miller, 24, from the UK. In January 2016, he was found at the bottom of a swimming pool at the Sunset Bar at Sairee Beach. His family has accused police of a cover-up. 2016 - Luke Miller, from the Isle of Wight, was reportedly found floating in a pool on the island. 2017 - Elise Dallemagne, 30, of Belgium. In April 2017, she was found hanged in the jungle. Questions surround her death. - Police said Belgian tourist Elise Dallemagne committed suicide on Koh Tao but her family believe otherwise 2018 - June 2018 - German Bernd Grotsch's body was found at his home deep in the jungle in the Mae Haad part of Koh Tao. He had recently returned to the island after building up a motorbike rental business. 2018 – August – alleged drug rape of a British teenager. Cops refused to investigate, then threatened to prosecute her for leaving the island 2018 - October 9, 2018 - Alexandr Bucspun, 33, from Moldova, was found dead in the sea off Had Sai Ree on Koh Tao on Tuesday,. 2018 - 17/12/2018 - Rocio Leticia Gomez 39 from Argentina was lost at sea, rescued but died 4 days later. Another tragedy kept quiet!! 2019 - June– Samyak Choudhray – drowned whilst snorkelling 2020 a tourist was attacked with a knife by a well-known character of the island 2021 - A millionaire hotel tycoon and his wife have been found dead in a luxury resort on Koh Tao, colloquially known as Death Island. 2023 - Nicholas Giblin passed away in his sleep. This is probably true. He was apparently a perfectly healthy person with no known illnesses. But his death has highlighted the problem of Koh Tao, which now has a reputation and the local police do nothing to alleviate this.

Is that a resort on KT?

I've written above on this topic...only you don't get it.... why do you think that is?

I take it you don't have a car?

It's also very common for "1000's" of dim people not to realise how dim their comments are

You started the argument - I just made some observations - you seem to have a very low level of deduction. What are you implying? Lots of people drink og KT, but they don't suddenly disappear and turn up dead. However people are more likely to get into trouble with other people after drinking and KT is famous for suspicious deaths and poor police inbvestigations.

So it is supposition and a facile assessment based on nothing.

If you have a car, drive over.

Apparently in Chonburi Rayong over 50% industrial waste is dumped in ground filling that is unprepared or unsuitable for it.

well if you live in Pattaya,or anywhere in Chonburi or Rayong provinces then you need to move.

Sorry if you don't understand, but not surprised.

or is it allowing residential properties to build around an industrial facility? It's over by the rail line on the darkside....... most housing there is relatively new

Sure sign you don't think much, then. Causes are usually lack of maintenance e.g. broken pipes or equipment failure: High-pressure pipes and equipment are used in ice factories to circulate the refrigerant. If these pipes or equipment break, it can cause a sudden release of pressure, which can lead to an explosion. Chemicals such as ammonia and chlorine are used in these factories. If these chemicals are not stored properly, they can explode if they come into contact with each other or with other incompatible materials. These explosions can cause serious injuries or death to workers in the ice factory, as well as damage to the surrounding property. as seen, they can also release hazardous chemicals into the environment.

you are sealioning and you know it - therefore you are trolling - you have not made a single contribution to the discussion, purely cryptic comments and sealioning.

You really aren’t up to speed on this are you?. You have resorted to rather lame logical fallacies that give this away… - I'm replying to this quote regardless of who said it... Reductio ad absurdum “The secret to avoid road accidents in Thailand. Would you please share your knowledge with us and reduce the road accidents to "0"” You are characterizing an opposing argument in such a way that it seems to be ridiculous, or the consequences of the position seem ridiculous, but as it is fallacious the opposite is true. Expert - a reverse fallacious appeal to authority, often used by people to attack the messenger rather than the message. People without any argument seem to believe that they can discredit anyone who says something they don’t agree with or didn’t know, by suggesting they are an “expert” or asking them why they think they are an “expert”. As if any opinion other than an “experts” must automatically be invalid

There’s a lot of confirmation bias involved in anecdotal “witnessing” of crashes in Thailand. Take the Songkhran figures - There were a total of 2,203 road accidents reported over the 7 days of Songkran this year https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/general/40026753. This figure which is about the same for every New Year and Songkhran averages out at about 315 per day. BUT - This is SLIGHTY LESS than the average in the UK which has actual death rates around 1/12th that of Thailand. Accidents in UK are around 336 a day (e.g. - with 122,635 recorded in 2018. So it is fair to ask – why such a difference in road deaths? One needs to consider the evidence before jumping tp conclusions that aren’t scientific or reasoned.

Although you can argue the stats, most sources seem to tell a similar story. That is the cost of road crashes in Thailand is significant, reaching into the billions of baht. Estimates suggest road crashes cost Thailand more than 500 billion baht annually, which is around 3% of the country's GDP. This data is from 2019 (pre Covid), so it might not be the most recent, but it nevertheless highlights the substantial economic burden. It's important to consider that these figures likely only account for the measurable economic costs. The human cost of lost lives, injuries, and disabilities is less measurable. An accident has many ramifications - Approximately 39 per cent of the deaths are family heads. This means that the death of one person puts 2.43 people per family in trouble financially and psychologically. It is also a loss for Thailand's demography as the country enters an ageing society – families lose breadwinners, mothers and suffer great emotional stresses. Insurance companies have to pick up the costs. From ambulance to long term care, or simply paying put for property damage, a crash costs money

If it's secret, you shouldn't be driving.

Your assumption doesn't take into account the number of those who die of old age and the Thai birthrate. THe population is not static or made up of te same people every year. I think there rte two factors here one is how statisitcs are compiled and secondly how they are collated and analysed.

I'm sure you do - but everything you've posted indicates otherwise. I think rather than sealioning you should demonstrate just an iota of comprehension and what evidence you have to the contrary.

It is good to see an article that doesn't regurgitate the same old cliches about road safety - namely "bad drivers" DUI deaths per 10ok pop and playing the blame game

Firstly fixating only on the statistic of road deaths or deaths per 100k pop isn't a very good way of getting the true picture - rather, it shows how people are not analysing the stas in a productive way. THe 30 day rule is only a guide - not a hard and fast rule in most countries - It should however be noted that statistically the numbers after 30 days are probably insignificant. In the UK, The Department for Transport (DfT) defines a road death as someone who dies within 30 days of a reported road accident involving a vehicle on a public road. There is no hard cut-off after 30 days like in the US. Beyond 30 days: Deaths that occur after 30 days but are considered directly attributable to the injuries sustained in the accident are still counted as road deaths by the DfT. They are reported in a separate category though, differentiating them from those happening within 30 days. Here are some resources for further reference: Department for Transport - Road Casualties and fatalities: https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/department-for-transport It would be more helpful to compare THailand's first responder and emergency services to other country's statistics. THe stats relealeased so quickly by the RTP cannot really be regarded as anything more than a comparative guide. THis year's proportions reflect only what the police were checking for not what was actually trending.