kwilco

8 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

t may improve if the bozos in power learned once and for all that the tourists are bringing income, and with tourism comes a few pieces of excess baggage they don't want, such as badly behaved clowns and a few criminals, but the majority of tourists are good for the country and its tourist-reliant industries. They are doing Thailand a favour, not the other way around.

Yes -absolutely and th Russians Chinese and Indians now do that better

4 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

 

 

Years ago when I was in Pattaya at the beginning of the influx of Russians, when most of them who visited were very wealthy, the Russians had no interest in bar girls or the sex industry.

They do now - I lived in the area for 20 years

3 hours ago, Goat said:

More elderly sex tourists?

Just cheap hotels etc. Package holidays the lower end of the market.

It looks like the sex industry in Pattaya has burgeoning in the last year....I'd say on the back of increased Russian tourists.

1 hour ago, BarraMarra said:

because he refers to racism in every post, that's why he is  bit like Goat he just slags off Brits.

Really, where? you realise you haven't got an argument - just baseless ad homs

1 hour ago, kiwikeith said:

If the stupid greedy arms manufacturers don't stop sending weapons to Ukraine and Israel Pattaya will soon be uninhabitable. 

how come?

1 hour ago, RobU said:

😂🤣😂🤣😂 Very good, a rambling post with no point whatsoever

either you don't understand or you can't explain your logic then....no surprise there

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I know the smoke from years ago and now.

It isn't just with the "smoke' you can see...PM2.5 particles can only be seen with an electron microscope.

THere has always been a "burning season" - but in the last decade the burning of biomass has dramatically increased due to pressure from the small CARTEL that runs the commodities markets in Thailand. The amount of traffic has increased exponentially and so has the output of industry - in particular the petro-chemical industroes.

THe topography of Chiang Mai makes it much more susceptible that most places as does the topography of BKK.

For several months of the year now, parts of northern THailand are virtually uninhabitable

5 hours ago, RobU said:

where at least one of the members (me) has a qualification in semantic logic

One O level I suspect - and still knows nothing about history or racism.

Lets ‘see if you can use you “logic” to explain why you are using 2 logical fallacies ….

Appeal to Authority and secondly Credentials Fallacy?

3 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Why do you have use that word in every post you make Kwilco ? " Racist "

QED - Not every post just the ones you read - I wonder why? 

52 minutes ago, RobU said:

Which part of China (or perhaps Russia?) are you from?

  British imperialist?

Your language is giving you away. Nobody in the west speaks like that anymore, only pundits from the communist and former communist states

what a stupid comment

49 minutes ago, RobU said:

Which part of China (or perhaps Russia?) are you from?

  British imperialist?

Your language is giving you away. Nobody in the west speaks like that anymore, only pundits from the communist and former communist states

why is it the racists get so het up whenever racism is mentioned?

just waiting for someone to say "I can't be racist, I married one!"

7 minutes ago, OJAS said:

 

Also worthy of mention IMHO are the increasingly complex procedures which HM Government back in Blighty has seen fit to inflict on us Brit expats over the past 10 years or so in the areas of renewing our passports locally, proving that we are still in the land of the living for our State Pension and getting UK docs legalised for use in LOS.

 

my passport took 5 days from handing in BKK, and how your pension works depends on agreements with whichever county you are in.

2 hours ago, John Drake said:

All these complaints. And the crowds. And the pollution. It makes me yearn for the Golden Age of Covid Thailand. Cleaner air, fewer people, easier to get around, no problem finding taxis. I really liked things then. (The economic problems are out of my lane, so, yes, Covid Thailand caused economic destruction. But as someone living here on a retirement extension, it was the best time I've ever experienced.)

There is the key.

Western tourists are more "discerning"

Thailand managed nearly 40 million tourists before Covid.

They still haven't get to that level quite yet but their target is over that.

Despite what some say about targeting "quality" tourists, Thailand is actively pursuing a policy of the lowest common denominator - bums on seats - it's a question of how many people you can fit onto a beach - buildings, aesthetics, infrastructure, natural resources simply don't matter - the burgeoning middle classes of China, India and Russia are nowhere near as concerned about those issues - they want hot weather a beach and booze. Thailand can provide that.

On top of that flights from these countries are much shorter and cheaper than from Europe or the USA.

As for living long term - retirees pensions in UK are less - th state pension is effectively half that of France and a third that of Germany.

Thailand needs skilled workers from the west - engineers etc but they don't pay well and when it comes to healthcare, eventually they and retirees have to return home. As retirees get older they require more and more healthcare an the Thai industry just can't meet the needs of the chronically ill. Comprehensive healthcare for a retiree these days is between £5,000 and £10,000 p/a.

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

Anutin calls us dirty foreigners.

Prayut says we should be raped and murdered for wearing bikinis.

 

If you don't believe they hate us, you ain't paying attention.

Of course whu would you want people living in your country who think they are hated by the locals. 

Why would they live here at all?

On 4/18/2024 at 8:55 AM, Gandtee said:

What is it in Thailand where just giving a toot on the horn to indicate you may cross in front of me. Thankyou for letting me pass or for any reason is considered a challenge to a duel. Using fisticuffs, pipes, machetes, or anything that comes to hand. Perhaps horns should not be fitted to vehicles driven in Thailand. Fragile egos can't handle them.

it is a classic problem that farangs have when they come to drive in Thailand - they simply don't understand Thai dul=ture and try to impose their own values on daily life.

27 minutes ago, Confuscious said:

 

Claiming that reducing the amount of people on a pickup bed will not reduce the number of death/injured people In an accident, shows the IGNORANT you are and not worth to have a discussion with.

 

 

Thus you admit that reducing the amount of people on a pickup bed will have an impact, although not big, on the amount of dead/injured people in which case I will come to the same conclusion that you are not worth to have a discussion with.

Goodbye

 

You clearly don't have a grasp of either stats or the issues - I said "significant"

I doubt if you can find statistics for people killed or injured whilst travelling in the rear of a pickup.

Or understand why they are there.

What do you think i'm Ignorant of?

I'd say you are displaying a very basic ignorance of how to analyse raod safety - you are firmly in th "would have, should have ,could have" school of cognitive dissonance

14 minutes ago, jesimps said:

Unfortunately cars and trucks are bigger than motorcycles and come off best. Also, if motorcyclists learned the highway code and didn't speed, overload their bikes or get psised, they'd be ok.

a very glib response which shows a lack of understanding of the issues.

14 minutes ago, Confuscious said:

 

Enforcing the law about the number of people in the load area of a pickup is not going to end the road safety problems but it will surely reduce the amount of casualties.
The same way as enforcing the law about the number of people on a motorbike or not wearing a helmet.

Rome was not build on 1 day.
 

no it won't - not significantly and you are barking up the wrong tree.. .statistically between 75% and 80% of deaths are riders and passengers of 2-wheeled vehicle - 4-wheeled vehicles you are actually LESS likely to die than in the US.

11 minutes ago, Confuscious said:

 

Who withdraw the law that limited the people carried on the load surface of a pick-up?
Don't need to answer that question, we know already ....

pointing out single issues just shows a lack of appreciation of the road safety situation in Thailand.

Do you seriously think that raomving passengers from the back of pickups will "cure" Thailand's raod safety ills?

The truth is there needs to be a comprehensive understanding of the problems and a systematic holistic approach - piece meal bandaids don't work.

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

I made the mistake of getting out on the road the day before Songkran started and it was a nightmaret. There was a lot more traffic on the highways during the holidays, so of course there's going to be more accidents, of course there's going to be more fatalities. This isn't really news. 

there are LESS fatalities

How is a reduction in accidents and deaths a surge??????