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I’ve compiled this check list to help identify anti-vax conspiracy theorists 
Spot the signs. Think critically. Choose facts, not fear. 
Note first that critical thinking tends to start with a question e.g - “what damage is caused by vaccines?” whereas a conspiracy theorist tends to start with a statement  e.g “All Vaccines Will Kill You” and then looks around for “support” for that statement

1. "Do Your Own Research" – but know the difference between “search” and “research”
☐ Are they rejecting every expert source but trusting a random blog, YouTube video, or meme?
☐ Is “research” just Googling until they find something that confirms what they already believe? (Google is not a source, it’s a search engine)
Real research involves peer review, not Reddit threads or "sealioning"!

2. Fake Experts, Real Confusion
☐ Are they quoting “doctors” with no relevant qualifications—or long-discredited figures?
☐ Is a chiropractor or lifestyle guru being treated like an immunologist?
 If you wouldn’t trust them to do surgery, maybe don’t trust them on virology.

3. Natural = Good, Science = Bad
☐ Is the post full of appeals to nature—like “your immune system is enough” or “chemicals are evil”?
☐ Do they ignore that diseases are natural too?
Smallpox was natural. So were polio and the plague.

4. "I'm Just Asking Questions"
☐ Do they avoid making actual claims, but drop ominous-sounding questions like “Why are they pushing this so hard?”
☐ Is it just sowing doubt without offering facts?
“Just asking” can be a shield for misinformation.

5. Cherry-Picked Stats & Misleading Charts
☐ Are they using scary-looking graphs or rare adverse cases with no context?
☐ Are large studies and safety data being ignored?
If it sounds dramatic but skips the full picture, it’s probably not science.

6. Big Pharma = Evil Mastermind
☐ Is everything blamed on shadowy corporations and bought-out doctors?
☐ Is it assumed that all science is corrupt except the stuff that supports their view?
Pharma isn’t perfect—but neither are essential oils from Instagram influencers.

7. Fear-Driven Language
☐ Is the tone emotional, alarmist, and filled with words like “toxic,” “deadly,” or “experimental”?
☐ Does it feel designed to scare first, explain never?
If it’s more horror movie than medical advice, don’t panic—fact-check.

Bottom Line:
Anti-vax arguments often sound passionate—but passion isn’t proof.
Believing something doesn’t make it true. Repeating it doesn’t make it safer.
Science isn’t perfect, but it does evolve based on evidence—not fear.

Stay curious. Stay skeptical. Skepticality is part of science and critical thinking – but make sure you actually know what critical thinking as and how to do it.

This is my favourite introduction to critical thinking 

There are plenty of books, videos and courses that you can find online.

And remember: vaccines don’t just protect you—they protect everyone.
 

1 hour ago, Airalee said:

When they stopped divulging the vaccination status

By "they" you mean the lizard people?

Remember Trump was president for the Covid epidemic and one of te first things he did was disband the White House pandemic response team

10 hours ago, johng said:

A long one.

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/subcommittees/investigations/hearings/the-corruption-of-science-and-federal-health-agencies-how-health-officials-downplayed-and-hid-myocarditis-and-other-adverse-events-associated-with-the-covid-19-vaccines/

 

and

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025.05.21-PSI-Majority-Staff-Interim-Report-Failure-to-Warn.pdf

 

 

I think you need to read up on references/cherry picking etc -THis is the kind of mistakes that school kids and undergraduates make -  I posted earlier about how the less academic are not used to dealing with this and there is no science involved, just a Senate committeee; you should be gathering information from a wider range of sources and look at how other countries handled covid

 While there is a recognised, albeit rare, risk of myocarditis following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination—especially among young males—the condition is generally mild and resolves with minimal intervention. The risk of myocarditis from COVID-19 infection remains higher than from vaccination. Ongoing research and surveillance continue to inform vaccine recommendations and safety protocols.

On 5/24/2025 at 12:16 PM, johng said:

It was stated that you can't live without "the science" which is plainly wrong.

No it wasn't, and you clearly don't know what science means -  I get really  tired of people throwing around the word "science" like it's some vague magical belief system or personal opinion. It’s not. Science isn't a vibe. It’s not a religion. It doesn’t care how you feel about it.

Science means knowledge, gained through evidence. It's a method — a brutal, unforgiving process of observation, hypothesis, testing, and verification. You know what that means? It means if you're wrong, the data will tell you. And if you ignore the data? You're not “doing your own research” — you’re just being willfully ignorant.

Science isn’t perfect, but unlike armchair opinions, it corrects itself. That’s the whole point. It changes when new evidence comes in. That’s not weakness — that’s the power of it. If you're clinging to outdated nonsense just because it matches your worldview, congratulations: you're anti-science.

So next time you're tempted to say "science says" or argue against it with a YouTube video and a feeling in your gut, learn what the word actually means. Science is not on your side. It’s on the side of reality.

Deal with it.

Sealioning - the favourite occupation of those who just don't know that they don't know.......

2 down and about 50more Brits to go on Samui alone..... check out the gyms, scuba etc etc

9 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Only thing false is you implying, I may have implied they stopped vaccinated. 

no I don't

5 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Japan stopped mandatory baby vaccinations in 1994, though still recommend some common sense ones.

 

Infant mortality rate (per 1000) vs USA silly vaccine policy.

 

source: https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/infant-mortality-rate/country-comparison/

This is misleading. Japan didn't stop vaccinating babies—they just changed some vaccines from "mandatory" to "recommended" in 1994, and uptake remains high. Japan still vaccinates against all the major diseases.

Also, infant mortality has many causes (prenatal care, maternal health, NICU access, etc.) and differences in reporting standards make country comparisons tricky. The U.S., for example, counts extremely premature births as live births—many other countries don’t, which skews the numbers.

Cherry-picking IMR and ignoring all this context doesn’t prove anything about vaccine safety.

It DOES show that America has one of the worst healthcare systems in the developed world.

PS - 

Japan’s vaccine uptake is comparable to or higher than the USA for most core childhood vaccines.

Japan’s vaccination program is publicly funded and vaccines are widely administered in clinics and health centers.

The idea that Japan “stopped vaccinating” is completely false—they just reclassified mandates, but recommendations and uptake remained strong.

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

Again your argument is "because humans didn't go extinct before vaccines, we therefore don't need vaccines". To Hell with the people who did die or will die of otherwise preventable diseases.

And because crocodiles are around and they didn't get vaccines then there's no need.

So you're saying we shouldn't have vaccines because the dinosaurs in the Jurassic period didn't have them  (we've had between 5 and 20 mass extinctions so for- most of which lasted much longer than th current era - -  let me get this straight — because crocodiles didn’t need vaccines, humans don’t either? Seriously?

Crocodiles also don’t have electricity, medicine, or the internet — should we ditch all that too?

Humans didn’t survive this long just by “adapting.” We made fire. We built cities. We cured diseases. That’s science. It’s not some optional luxury — it’s the reason we’re not all dying from infections or drinking filthy water.

Stop pretending evolution alone got us here. Evolution gave us brains — science is how we used them to stop dying young. Comparing us to animals that haven’t changed in 200 million years isn’t clever. It’s lazy.

You want to live like a crocodile? Be my guest. The rest of us are trying to stay healthy with the tools we actually have — like vaccines.

I think you ought to think about extinctions and also human life expectancy - or do you think "to hell with them"? - actually on second thoughts don't bother I don't even know why I'm bothering with you.

20 minutes ago, johng said:

 

It was stated that you can't live without "the science" which is plainly wrong.

Does science make our lifes better in the most part yes.

We certainly don't need experimental,rushed ,novel ,mandatory concoctions forced upon us for a " virus"  with an IFR of less than 1%

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How did the human race emerge, evolve, survive and prosper before

"the science"  was even thought about ?" - so what is your point? what exactly are you implying?

7 hours ago, KannikaP said:

They should not happen in these days of spelling and grammar correction. 

That's WHY they happen....don't try to justify your anal OCD by ridiculous off topic interruptions...or are you just too dumb to work out typos?

2 hours ago, KannikaP said:

Or type proper English or spelling.

Thanks, but I prefer ideas over typos—feel free to correct me when you’ve published a bestseller.

Just a theory!

Saying “I didn’t get vaccinated and I’m still alive” is like saying “I didn’t wear a seatbelt and didn’t crash.” It’s not proof the seatbelt isn’t useful—it just means you were fortunate.

On 5/22/2025 at 9:15 AM, Teddy Boy said:

They should never have legalised it in the first place, end of. 

As Isaid - It’s strange how there’s almost no real debate happening around cannabis legalisation in Thailand.
On one side, you’ve got people who support legalisation—and they’ve got solid reasoned arguments, e.g - medical benefits, economic boost, job creation, tax revenue, and taking the trade out of the black market. These arguments are backed by actual evidence and global examples.
Then on the other side, you mostly hear the same old prejudices - “Drugs are bad.” And that’s basically it. No real data, just outdated scare stories from the’70s and ‘80s that have been disproven over and over. It’s not a position based on facts—it’s based on fear, stigma, and moral panic and bigotry

43 minutes ago, Aussie999 said:

Read this, and note, as of November 2024

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_Thailand

Unless you can show the legislation then you are only, as I am, posting published opinions.

Here is some more reading, please, if you find something to counter it, then provide a link.

https://cms.law/en/int/expert-guides/cms-expert-guide-to-a-legal-roadmap-to-cannabis/thailand

 

Really not interested in entering a sealioning competition with the likes of you who not only can't research but also cannot evaluation a source. You are just maling a fool of yourself

42 minutes ago, Aussie999 said:

Show me the legislation 

This from June 9, 2022

"Thailand's government has said it is promoting cannabis for medical use only, warning those eager to light up for fun that smoking in public could still considered to be a nuisance, subject to a potential 3-month sentence and 25,000 Thai baht ($780) fine."

You are now sealioning - the lowest form of argument... I really can't fathom why you don't look it up for yourself...

Thailand decriminalised cannabis on 9 June 2022, it was removed from its list of controlled narcotics. (The repeal of cannabis from Thailand's Narcotic Drugs Act) - This change was formalised through a notification by the Ministry of Public Health, which was published in the Royal Thai Government Gazette on 8 February 2022. 
The notification removed cannabis and hemp from Category 5 of the Narcotics Code, effectively legalising the cultivation, sale, and possession of cannabis parts. This policy shift was part of a broader initiative led by then-Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul, who advocated for the economic and medicinal benefits of cannabis. The decriminalization aimed to reduce prison overcrowding from drug-related offenses and to promote cannabis as a cash crop for rural communities 
Decriminalisation has led to a rapid expansion of cannabis-related businesses, especially in tourist areas, While cannabis was technically decriminalized in June 2022, recreational use became fully legal with the repeal of the Narcotic Drugs Act, according to a source. This allowed for the legal possession, consumption, and cultivation of cannabis, with some restrictions on public use.
 

6 hours ago, Aussie999 said:

Actually, it was only legalised for medicinal purposes.... So this proposal is simply trying to bring it under control 

No you've got that wrong...that was the first move, later it was legalised for recreational Thailand on June 9, 2022

3 hours ago, Aussie999 said:

You are the one who is wrong, I clearly remember when it was legalised, specifically medicinal purposes.

It was legalised for recreational use on Thailand on June 9, 2022

14 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Yes it is, believe science or believe your quarks 

An opinion stops being an opinion when it's used to justify falsehoods without evidence — then it's just misinformation.

I think it's certain there have been financial benefits for Thailand - there are a lot of small businesses grown up and one or two resorts that cater for recreational tokers.  I can't see any negative results supported by any evidence. I can see the potential for a whole new industry in issue=ing medical certificates - the law in allows for recreational smoking at home etc so no laws broken there - 

Thailand introduced the liberalisation in a very un-researched and chaotic manner - and now are trying to 'adjust" it in an equally chaotic and un-researched manner - it's just a litany of goernment incompetence - however it will be hard for anyone to produce hard evidence of the negative affects of recreational smoking in Thailand. Remember it's been part of Thai culture for centuries.

So  - you will issue these " medical certificates"?

10 hours ago, StandardIssue said:

I could do without all the "lay abouts" and pot head tourists visiting Thailand.

could you - well I'm sure Thailand is keen to help you out on that....maybe they'll ask a few more bigots whilst they're at it?