10 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:

Yes we do I think, even though it might not sound like it...

I have no problem with genuine causes. But I like to see that equal is equal not this so called "positive discrimination".

Best person for the job, is not from a demand for a certain percentile of male, female, LBGTi, black, white, yellow or whatever, just simply who is the best candidate.

 

On another level, I was talking about our constant companion Jiminy Cricket. I like to get to grips with him in suitable surroundings. I'm not religious although brought up C of E, but I do like to sit in a quiet cathedral and have it out with the rascal. Sometime it takes more than one session, but I usually find we can come to an amicable solution eventually. If that's not your thing try fishing... you might catch what you are looking for in between a fish or two.

 

Best of luck,

G

Good post Georgio old chum but just one question if I may; Does the big fellah upstairs entertain anyone who has committed the cardinal sin of posting on TVF ?

If so then great but if not then we need not worry about heating bills once we move to "the other side" and we can bitch and moan for all eternity with each other and about what is going on "Upstairs"

3 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:

Here is a good Sister-in-Law story told to me by an Aussie..

 

After coming here with his lovely Thai bride he proceeds to build a fine house and develope a farm..

In the midst of all this activity his wife suddenly receives a phone call-her sister has been kidnapped and is being held for ransom!Panic..alarm and consternation!

 

Now this Aussie chap is no fool so he calls a meeting between the plod and the local mafia who have done the dirty deed.

 

Yes, indeed,state the local boys.we have kidnapped her because she owes us 4 million in gambling debts-you pay or she will die!

 

Hmmm..says the Aussie..you have only one choice.you rogues,as I have no intention of paying 1 satang of that money..

 

The sister-in-law turns up the following day looking very sheepish..

 

How they do try it on if they think that they can get away with it.

Hi Ody my friend, 

You still wonder why I want to put a collection of these highly amusing yet seriously frightening anecdotes together?

BTW you owe me half an American breakfast because on reading those two stories (especially the cow saga) I nearly choked and coughed up my food all over the remanents of my ABF!

The serving girl had to bring me a glass of water before I could stop choking. Bloody hell man you could not make up a story like that. Damned fine raconteur old chum!

I hope you are feeling chipper this morning, my emotional scale is heading perfectly in the right direction much thanks to you, Rhodie, Hippy dude, Trans, wise Owl, Cranky Colin, Andrew, Georgio  and the team. Pretty sure on arrival "chez ma soeur" That I will get a large dose of no nonsense, straight talking "guidance" and head straightening. There is hope I could become normal once more!

Got your flights fixed? Mine are on Friday morning via Qatar airlines stopping in AUH for a couple of hours but damn they were not cheap!

From "the one" and her daughter I am getting all sorts of texts. Her daughter owned up to being the owner of the very revealing underwear which, if it does not sound too creepy ( she is 31, good looking, fine figure and no blood relation ) makes me think of her in a very different light. No apology from "the one" though until I mentioned it to the daughter.  I need to look into Bi, Tri or Quad Polar and see if that is what is fuelling the stream of texts that alternate between not very nice things and declarations of undying love.

Obviously pulled out all the stops to try and find me as my chum who has been harbouring me of late was stopped in the street by a katoi friend of "the one" and quizzed on if I was staying there. Being a canny guy he denied any knowledge. 

Told her I could never return to Khorat as my reputation and face has obviously been destroyed by the false accusations she has laid at my door and obviously told all who would listen about. Pretty sure she got a lot of likes on Farcebook as the indig females love nothing more than a good old emotional drama containing infidelity and violence as well as the less pleasant desire to see another of their kind get f'd over royally. I can pretty much imagine the clamour to tell "the one" what a nasty piece of dog excement I am and how she is so much better without me, which I am again sure she took as true,  right up to the point when the bills came in.........

I have been given given the chance to re purchase my BMW which I believe to be a very kind offer. After all I bought the f'ing thing cash in the first place. Where does this all come from? I could of course use the money I was in any case intending to send her monthly as payment but that is a tad immoral. 

"We are sorry but this two legged ATM is currently out of order"

Have a super day chaps no matter the weather ( there is my Englishness coming out) stay safe, stay well and most of all stay happy!

All the best for now

TDL 

18 minutes ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:

I have been a serial monogamist for the last 40 years so I have an idea of what you are talking about. It's up his/her (or LBGTi etc) to decide what they want. Money, security, great sex, kids, look after the parents and family etc etc...

Love rarely comes into the equation, but lust starts it.

Time I went to sleep,

Cheers.

Best of luck to the boys.

G.

 

Hi George old chum, I may be somewhat of a dinosaur as I am not a member of the trendy LBGT etc community. ( I don't have any issues with people's beliefs and orientation just as long as it is not shoved in my face demanding entitlement at every turn) bit of a conformist I suppose. 

The wife and and I are separated by a mere 7 months in age so the "fat boy young girl" syndrome is not a factor

on my first divorce I lost something very very precious to me, my daughters. They stayed with their mother in the UK on a very generous stipend, whilst I continued in my career overseas. Over time the mothers influence reduced them to not even sending an xmas card to their old man. Big loss. 

Water under the bridge for me me as I hardened my heart and moved on. No such potential loss here and if I don't over think things, I find myself even at this early stage, thinking more and more about my future.

As one of the wiser posters pointed out, a fresh start is tough in so many ways and frankly why would I even restart here in LoS after all I went through and all the stories and anecdotes from my new "cyber friends" ?

I have to ask though considering the Phils, VNN or even Camb as alternative venues for my remaining years,  is the grass greener in the other side of the fence or is it an illusion? An illusion to be shattered a few more years down the line.

Am I better with what I know and to a larger extent, like by staying here or bite the bullet and start over in a new but largely unknown environment having to make a few of the "newbie" mistakes before getting in the groove

This time it is not me who suffers the loss ( too much) but my wife of 17 years.

Theoretically and cynically I should shrug my shoulders and adopt the attitude of not my problem but that dreadful ingrained feeling of doing someone who is and will continue to be, worse off than myself a perceived injustice just will not go away. 

Argh!

1 hour ago, Odysseus123 said:

 

I sense that the young boys parents want something very different for their son.In a way it is quite uplifting for me to see this development happening in my final days here.

A journey of a thousand miles starts with the first step.

indeed Ody old chum you are a man of many talents. An unplumbed depth of kindness even to those who have mistreated you (generalasion), an ability to turn even the most challenging of adversities into "a lesson in life's journey" , the ability to turn a story of suffering into "an amusing anecdote" .

you are a diamond in the rough old chum ( shall I get the room or will you?)

by helping that one guy broaden his horizons even by just just a small amount, you have made a difference.

just imagine if this exploded and the local boy spoke to his mates ( I make the assumption here that he is wise enough to chose his chums carefully) who also picked up the same concept  and started doing the same. They in turn told their mates.......

in a small but potentially significant way, you may have started the march to enlightenment that many here are so desperately in need of. 

6 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:

When it is all sorted out, put you feet up and think about writing up what has happened, you might find it is longer than a short story.

Keep in touch if you do.

 

 

Hi George old chum, my writing skills are no match for a bunch of the guys on this thread but I do appreciate a good and well written read.  As I re read the posts here I see wry humour coming out of soul crushing situations, raw humour out of adversity and many of these posts have given me a chuckle in my darkest (is that bad?) times. 

I seriously doubt i have the writing skills to emulate thise guys. 

This darkness is fading like the rising of the sun ( at high latitudes)  which may mean I have started to lose my claim to be the dark lord. Is nothing sacred?

10 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:

Aahhhh!

 

Sorry, Wise Old Owl......

Me too. Thinking about opening up a rescue centre for the battered farang husbands. "The Dark Lords Centre for the Emotionally Abused Farangs"

probably need to  buy a condo complex to be of any use though......

i am the last one to offer advice but but I do hope you can ride through this with no damage .

48 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:

It both disturbs me and shocks me that you even consider 'stiff preconditions' as that smells of you going back!  why can't you just break free?  I'm afraid it shows that you have not made a decision and I thought you had.

 

We should be hearing "she's already started the emotional blackmail but there is NO WAY as that part of my life is finished"  If you do go back, I'm sorry to say, but this poster's empathy will disappear. No excuses, no 'it will change'  because it "may" change short term than it will be all over again.

 

Be strong not stupid please. Good luck.

You are 100% correct old chum, give me some latitude though as I am in the very early stages right now. Difficult to shed 17 years of marriage  in one go and whilst I can see myself that I have left the starting blocks on the road to recovery, i have a long way to go yet. 

There is still that huge guilt guilt that we carry from our upbringing in the west which remains a tad challenging but I am getting there. 

Trust me, once I am back in the UKI am pretty sure I will see things clearer and with the iron will of my sis ( with whom I will be staying for a while) whose advice to me has been precisely five words in two mails ( get out & get out now) I believe the result will be the right one.

I didnt  look for sympathy on TVF as I recognise that to be a rather foolish action, I posted to relieve the pressure. Was bowled over to receive the support, that I might have been subconsciously seeking, as well as the shared experiences of those who shared often in a highly amusing manner. 

Oerhaps in reflection the use of the word precondition was wrong, I meant to say that I had made very strong suggestions to her that  she needed to do certain things ( one being to see a doctor and go back on her HRT treatment which worked perfectly before) to return to being a person that would be acceptable. 

Just now, Odysseus123 said:

Hi Count,

Short stories?

 

Hmmm..I gotta a bit on my plate at the moment an 'I sure ain't no Ernest Hummingbird...err..Lemmingway...hang on..I'll get it right soon.

 

Good to see you out and about

You too my friend, stay safe and get well.

Hi Ody old chum, 

hope i I am not too late to wish you "Bon voyage" ( nod to old hippy dude there) the absolute best wishes in your fight with big c and my undying gratitude for your uplifting posts and stunning sense of humour. 

I am am sure I am not alone in wishing you a full and lasting recovery. 

As our cousins over over the pond are reputed to say; "don't be a stranger!"

10 hours ago, rhodie said:

Day 3 @The Dark Lord. Hope it's all getting easier to digest mate. And I hope those around you are helping. 1 day at a time!

Hi Rhodie old chum, yup, the dark lord is slowly recovering his darkness whilst, and oddly, becoming increasingly illuminated by my "cyber chums"

not wishing to belabour the point but without you guys it was looking like a trip to Koh Tao to chance my arm. 

Still nobody interested in the short story idea? 

15 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:

I have to ask the two guys that are in a difficult situation: how are things progressing?

Getting all this off your chests is fine and no doubt therapeutic, however after reading all the other sad stories I wonder if you have the mind set to get out of your situation, or just try to cope with the abuse and monetary and emotional expense?

I would really like to hear that even one of you has made the brake and is on the way to a new and less stressful life.

We are not talking about digging a tunnel, just getting in a taxi when nobody is watching.

Action speaks louder than words, and if neither of you get as far as the airport, I believe the wives might just get the message you have had enough and will stand for no more!

Time to go for it and do a Steve McQueen...

 

 

 

 

Hi Georgie old chum, well I am not at the airport now but I am about five hours drive away from the house of crazy and by myself. Just sorting out my bags ( a chum will store my gear for free) whilst I go back to UK.

i have started to get the texts begging me to come back, declaring deep love, and hinting at her forthcoming poverty. 

I expect to be in in the U.K. For about six to eight weeks to sort out my less than honest estate agent and complete my filial duties, attend both sisters birthdays, drink reasonable quantities of half decent beer and get my head right. 

The future? Sorry guys but I really cannot see into the future but I have already set some stiff preconditions to be met if I am even to consider and reconciliation but as I say that's way away right now.