BangkokReady

It's tricky to argue, since there is the fact that nudity is "natural" and people don't think that it does any harm. I assume that there are natural things that people don't want to see, things like going to the toilet or doing anything sexual, so it's sort of on a spectrum of things that people think should be private, and that can be a little subjective. One person might say why not go fully nude if you want, another might say that the bottom half nude is too much, yet another might say that the top half is too much also. Personally, I think that boobs are very much sexual things. (And you can argue that people sexualise them, but I think most guys can attest that there is very much a sexual urge experienced when seeing nice boobs.) I don't think a topless man is quite the same as a topless women, but you could make the argument that they are somewhat of an erogenous zone for either gender. I think they would cause a distraction. There would be an issue with minors, once they started to develop. I think men (especially young men) would probably go a bit crazy. Women would be judged even more on their appearance than they are already. People make this "they're not sexual" angle, but I don't find that convincing. To me, say have a sexual element, therefore they should remain covered. It's simply a case of decency and sensibleness. Even without the sexul nature, they are "nudity". Which can make people feel uncomfortable and be inappropriate in many situations. We're not "animals". We strive to be civilised and have moved on from many animalistic characteristics. Not caring about certain things being displayed in public is one of those things.

How would you feel about men walking around bottomless?

You think it would be good for a society for all women to walk around topless?

People don't like to see others walking around with their t*ts out. How can you not know that?

Because they previously found she was harmed or because they didn't find any harm yet?

Yeah, I don't necessarily agree that there was an excuse here, so much as I disagree with the dog-piling simply for someone disagreeing or questioning what happened (since people should always be free to do that). I remember a story that went something like a waitress asked a guy to choke her, like maybe she was flirting with him and was into that, and another guy saw it and beat the guy to death, or something like that. Both foreigners, though. Men can go crazy when they think they're "defending a woman's honour".

Unfortunately, you've rattled the cages of some "so what you're saying is..." types and the witch hunt has begun! there's not much more you can say. You've been found guilty of playing devil's advocate and suggesting that the video might not show the whole story. You either have to say "there's never any reason for any man to ever hurt any woman, and any man who doesn't fully agree is a woman beater himself" or you're a target for character assassination. 🤷‍♂️ One person arguing with you even said that there was never any reason for violence, but then said that they would hurt a woman to protect their child. Figure that one out...

I think if it was a Thai, or even a foreigner who was a little more grounded, it would have been fine. Thai people don't view relationships the same way as Westerners do. I imagine that if it was a Thai man, he probably would have been a little more switched on to the fact that it was a lot more of a financial relationship than a romantic one (he pays, she cooks, cleans and provides sex). Perhaps the foreign man expected the 16 year old girl to behave like someone deeply in love, and when she did not, he couldn't take it. It seems as though there must be some element where the reality did not match the expectations, since he arranged it, moved there, then changed his mind. Perhaps he thought that the whole family would be serving him, but it was the other way round. Or perhaps the girl offered only sex and nothing else. Who knows?

This happened now. Not 50 years ago. That's why people have a problem with it. People don't go around with their t*ts out anymore.

So you meet someone that seems interested, but they don't speak English and you don't speak Thai, so you aren't allowed to try and have any sort of relationship because you say so? Ridiculous. Do what you want.

Aren't you describing the foreigner as kind of a predator? Why should he "know better"? It doesn't sound like he's gotten himself into any trouble. Is it trafficking if they're married? Views? Not great, but it is Thailand. The locals do it regularly (or so I'm led to believe) and I don't think it's even frowned upon. As long as the guy has money. Suggestions? Don't do it yourself, stick with the over 18s. If someone else does it, keep your nose out.

You would think that a Thai person would be more knowledgeable about Thai culture than this.

I've seen plenty. Normally on the pavement or going the wrong way down a street, completely silent so you don't know they're coming, weaving around people and taking them completely by surprise.

Thailand doesn't condemn anything. It's a cultural thing. Thai people generally don't condemn or speak out against anything either. It's about avoiding any possible negative consequences.

You literally just said that "Violence is never necessary".

Not in Thailand. It's permanent.

The victim wasn't even Thai, let alone a Thai doctor. 🤷‍♂️

What if you couldn't stop her without hurting her?

Was her body harmed, though?

Presumably this just means they'll be shouting/fighting back with the Russians... 🤔

I wonder how long it will be before people are watching AIs set to "left-wing" argue with AIs set to "right-wing" in online forums. Or perhaps it's already happening... 🤔

Lol. This is completely untrue. It's the exact opposite and that's why you've started with the insults. Not even slightly. 🙄 I'm going opt to not "feed the troll". Have a great night.

You think that perfectly correct sentence was gibberish? That explains a lot... 🙄 But please, continue with the insults now that you've run out of things to get wrong.

There's no truth to be found in your comments... 🙄

You can't explain because you know that you are wrong.