notamember

On 10/27/2018 at 10:04 AM, wgdanson said:

Would this do for Paris?

are you from Blackpool?

1 minute ago, cleverman said:

Somebody on here a while back said that all expats have the cash in the bank,so why use a agent. Also, giving your passport to an agent is illegal for an Ozzie.

to  just an agent or to anyone ?

many expats do not even have bank accounts, hence the many Thai services on offer to help them to get one opened for a fee

40 minutes ago, yodsak said:

Totally true.  

 This thread comes around every few weeks...

 

FYI. how it works in Pattaya [with most if not all agents]

You go to agent ,pay him 12,900bt.

others charge more  @ 15k

Law firms are very expensive

 You go to the bank with agent.  He has your passport and passbook

Agent transfers 800k into your account ,updates passbook

You sign a transfer slip .money goes back into his account.

Agent keeps your passbook and passport

As you are leaving bank sends you phone alert .800k gone

A few days later you have go to immigration to have your photo taken [a new requirement],no queuing, no ticket, straight to the desk.

Go agent ,pick up passport, with new retirement visa.

He also does the 90 day reports for 200bt each if you wish

 

Every one i know over 50 in Pattaya uses an agent for retirement visas.  including married ppls.

under 50's are on ed visas,,,leave once a year 

 

HTH

 

that was true of old but not anymore

10-11-12-13-14-15 thousand will not get a money transfer into and out of account

they may ask for a bankbook but its only for appearances sake on your file

no money will go in and out at this price, they just get it stamped for a new year

you want the money in and they want it out after then then you need to find an agent who has 800,000 to put in and take out.

Most do not

also if the bank book the applicant holds is not local to the agents bank (not same region) then the agent has to pay 1% in and out, which is 800 baht each way as an interregional transfer charge

also many banks will expect a quid pro quo purchase for doing it at all , which will mean you will have to buy an insurance policy, this can cost an additional 2480 at the low end or up to 10,000 at the high end

so just for the transfer you can expect to find an additional 4000+ baht

this is why it costs more to actually have the money put in the bank with photo copies of the bankbook with the money in the bank and the letter from the bank verifying it is in the bank and is subsequently attached to your files 

if that does not bother you then by all means just pay the low end and get the stamp re-done with minimal time and fuss

you pays yer money and takes yer pick!

Just now, cleverman said:

Everyone who lives in Patts does not use an agent. 

obviously not you or you too would know how it works

1 hour ago, cleverman said:

Not true. Not one person I know gave their bank permission for an agent to withdraw money from their account, therefore the agent would not get his money back. 

Ha Ha you know even less than i imagined you did

Hundreds of applicants give hundreds of agents the bankbook, ATM card and pin

the account holder does not have to be there to process the return to lender in a bank to bank transfer within the same bank

not so many these days due to technology but some still give a pre-signed, withdrawal slip for transfer back to the agents account when its done

the applicant cannot steal the money as the agent has the passport, bankbook, ATM card and pin but as an extra security many bank managers temporarily lock the account and then unlocks it after its done to release the money back to the agent

3 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

 

Most of the time there is no money being lent, funds put in and out of accounts, less than 90 days, fake or real letters from banks etc.

 

You can speculate about how the funds get deposited/withdrawn, the 90 day requirement, the bank letter etc. Its a moot point, its just an immigration officer with a big "approved" stamp, and the discretionary power to stamp whatever he wants. Nobody is presenting fake funds, fake letters etc to the immigration officer.

 

you are wrong, some agents do have the money to deposit for clients and do so and pay for and present the genuine letters from the bank that support them

37 minutes ago, cleverman said:

There is no way I would give an agent power of attorney .( the only way he could draw money out of my account).

ATM card and Pin too and make bank to Bank transfer or pre-signed withdrawal slips to get the 800,000 back after processing. or internet banking on phone to facilitate transfer

5 hours ago, sirmud63 said:

very interesting that this topic comes up now , iv just got my third extension on retirement two days ago .

done by my lawyer in CM.

the price went up from 23000thb last year to 35000thb this time , but , i didnt need to even have a bank account this time , just passport and extra photos. 

i was abit surprised myself , but my lawyer told me no problem , its all good , we use our bank account for letter to immigration ,and thats what the extra charge is for . totally worth it .

so , go figure that one . 

 

i figure he charged you 12,000 baht more for not putting the money in your bank

7 hours ago, Mark1066 said:

 I have an acquaintance who did and when 2 immigration officials at Bangkok were moved to inactive posts recently because it had been discovered they were 'helping' people who could not meet the financial requirements for marriage and retirement visas, he spent a few sleepless nights. 

do you have a source for this or is it just speculation?

On 10/19/2018 at 2:54 PM, notamember said:

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995 a month including Playbox basic ( a lot like cable channels) only real plus is HBO

Went to big boy yesterday

bought the hydraulic centre for my chair

350 baht

thanks for the advice bicyclist

18 minutes ago, The manic said:

Stop flirting!

man he is too ugly

he went to  freak show, they let him in for free

This Halloween, he will open the door and the kids will give him candy

he is so ugly, when he was born the doctor slapped his mother

He then cut the cord and hung himself with it

9 minutes ago, The manic said:

20k to process your renewal legal

25k to process your renewal including a one day 800 k deposit. not legal.

The agents in both cases work closely with IO officers.

The 800k assisted one was not done in CM but sent to another office to assist the applicant

40 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Several of your posts have vanished already. Not my decision.

They were probably right to do so, sometimes the inner mechanics of things are best left alone

interesting that you are following (stalking ) me though

need a new boyfriend?

30 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Wasn't me! For me you can crack on, you're only embarrassing yourself. Besides, looks like most of your posts are going to get deleted anyway.

perhaps, perhaps not

not your decision to make

Just now, Pedrogaz said:

The money doesn't;t have to be shown to have come from outside Thailand. I have had 10 visa extensions without showing this. The money is just parked in a bank account and is never touched.

only for  first time applicant converting to an O visa inside Thailand and then only for 2 months not 3 months

39 minutes ago, bwpage3 said:

No it is NOT legal to borrow 800K from someone.

 

That money has to be shown from coming outside of Thailand and in your bank for 3 months.

 

 

only for  first time applicant converting to an O visa inside Thailand and then only for 2 months not 3 months

next....

16 minutes ago, Russell17au said:

It is not the borrowing of the money, it is that the money is not being seasoned for the 3 months as required by the immigration act and the main offenders of the lending of the money on the short period basis for that purpose are the crooked agents, hence the crackdown on the crooked agents. Not all agents are crooked.

Yet an agent in CM was assisting at 25k last week

most agents, even lawyers do the same thing

1 minute ago, dick dasterdly said:

I pay an agent to deal with my (entirely legal) retirement visa extensions and 90 day reports - as I can't deal with the hastle.

just plain lazy then and breaking the law by doing so

4 minutes ago, Spidey said:

You certainly did. Tommy said several agents have been turned away not all. As his report was about conditions changing for people applying for visa extensions, I think that it's safe to assume that they were turned away because they were seeding accounts, which is probably the most illegal thing that visa agents do. Also the most profitable. Profit for agent = profit for immigration for turning a blind eye to this illegal activity.

 

If you hadn't noticed, immigration accepting bribes is the big issue at the moment.

more speculation about things you know nothing about

if immigration were concerned about anything,  its those agents who do not seed accounts

the only thing wrong with the application and difference to how regular applicants would do it then be that its not been in the bank for 2/3 months

that you think thats is more illegal than doing nothing more than paying a bribe for a stamp is not only wrong its totally illogical

if any of what you think it is safe to assume to be true, it would be those types of agents that simply bribe officials for a stamp without any financial evidence at all that would have a problem  

i notice a good deal more than you can imagine Spidey

bored now, going out for a beer

its always amusing to see people speculate and call it fact about something they can only speculation about.....

but its not amusing for long

1 minute ago, bkk6060 said:

You are clueless how the system works.

The agents put the money into an account for maybe a few minutes.

Then, make copies of the documentation and transfer the money out.

It is a scam for sure.  But, has been going on for several years here. 

Really , clueless? ya think?

1 minute ago, wgdanson said:

The 'complete stranger' never sees any of the 800k. All done with smoke and mirrors and brown envelopes.

no its not, just more speculation

you people are so naive