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38 minutes ago, Mango Bob said:My 90 day report would b Aug 2019 my extension of stay is Jul 19. That doesn't make any sense. If you don't know don't say anything stupid.
90 day reports can be done 15 days before due date or seven days late
it would only take one or maybe two 90 day reports to time shift it onto the same date
sensible enough for you ?
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43 minutes ago, jackdd said:
A work extension is only valid as long as you have the job. A marriage extension is only valid as long as you are married.
It seems that with the new police order a retirement extension is only valid as long as you have the required money in your bank account.
So if at any point of time your bank account balance falls below 400k your extension becomes invalid.
Of course this has not been confirmed yet, but it's logical.
Thailand?
logic?
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44 minutes ago, nasa123 said:
Everyone in this forum + thai wife/husband should send a E-Mail to Immigration in Bangkok (Big Joke) and ask why they make it soooo difficult for 10,000++ thai families in Thailand. Nothing happens until there are many complaints.+ thai wife / husband
big jokes email address please?
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In 2005 Thai immigration changed the rule about the 800,000 baht deposit
it would now have to be seen to have been in the bank for 2 months prior to application and 3 months for renewals
The reasoning behind this was to stop agents loaning out money for a day to process the visa and also to stop groups of friends passing around the same 800,000 baht to support their applications
That was 13 years ago, it made a huge difference didn't it?
Nowadays you cannot get an agent funded first time or agent funded renewal for love nor money, (except from the 10-20 agents on every Pattaya street!) lol
once the tariff has been decided for the second show and tell, by the IO to their agents, it will be business as usual,
(thats if this thing ever gets further than the Thaivisabelievers)
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3 minutes ago, ChrisY1 said:
Wrong.....we are doing all this now because cheap charlies have been rorting the system ..falsifying their income statements (because they don't have the funds themselves) and having their respective embassy approve it.
he is an aussie in denial
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19 minutes ago, Mango Bob said:
Yes, I do. Do you got a problem with that? Just too damn bad.
i expect you are an ozzie
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3 minutes ago, Mango Bob said:
Yes, I do. Do you got a problem with that? Just too damn bad.
you are wrong
you bad
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1 minute ago, Mango Bob said:We are doing all the crap because of the American and British Embassies. If they continued to give the letter none this crap would have happened. Thank you, Trump and May. You two belong together along with Big Joke.
american and aussies
brits at least tried to verify the money and demanded proof
the others just took the money and stamped what you said
so those liars are the real cause kf it
not the embassies
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2 minutes ago, Chicken George said:
This will do nothing to stop the ilegal visa agents who adverise on this site and many others. It will just make it more expensive. Big Joke should warn immergration officers they will loose their jobs if caught. No moving to another desk.
The 800k was there to show funds to live on or to use in an immergency not as a perminant guarantee against using a ilegal agent to obtain a visa.. As I said the agents will now have more customers.
It would seem easier to go back to your iwn country and get a visa which can last 15 months or even 17 months.. Maybe cheaper than an agent now and maybe gor people who do not have the required funds to leave in a bank here..
I would not use an agent . I would rather go back to my home country. Its a prison term of minimum five years if caught.
the original 3 month advance deposit started in 2005
has a it made a difference to the way agents work?
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22 minutes ago, madmen said:Oh please. We both know the the majority effected by this were using income letters or agents
Agent door closed. That's life but why are so many crying. TV is the hub of thai bashing so this news should be good as finally the poor bashers get to go home
And if the Thai authorities read the TV threads they would be disgusted at the hate spewed by ungrateful farang directed at the thai people! Wouldn't surprise me if that played a big part in today's announcement
Ahhh but as the old saying goes, be careful what you wish for
agents door closed?
they have just been given the opportunity to double and maybe quadruple their income
instead of showing 800K once a year now they will be paid for doing it twice and maybe more if they can't be bothered to do the 400k on the next two
just make a flat annual fee of it along with the annual renewal fee for another 20k a year
(5k a quarter like the ED visa overlook fees)
process alongside the 90 days, mailed in the bankbook and the passport and with a signed deposit and withdrawal slip to get the 800K in and out
in turn the IO gets to quadruple their income by rubber stamping something that they normally only get to do once a year
Sounds like good business for the IO and agents to me
i think visa agents stock just went up exponentially
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In 2005 Thai immigration changed the rule about the 800,000 baht deposit
it would now have to be seen to have been in the bank for 2 months prior to application and 3 months for renewals
The reasoning behind this was to stop agents loaning out money for a day to process the visa and also to stop groups of friends passing around the same 800,000 baht to support their applications
That was 13 years ago, it made a huge difference didn't it?
Nowadays you cannot get an agent funded first time or agent funded renewal for love nor money, (except from the 10-20 agents on every Pattaya street!)
once the tariff has been decided for the second show and tell, by the IO to their agents, it will be business as usual,
(thats if this thing ever gets further than the Thaivisabelievers)
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13 minutes ago, onera1961 said:
They don't want agent services to be stopped but they can certify the agents and allow only certified agents to submit valid applications, just like in all other countries, for example Portugal's golden visa or USA's E5 visa.
it may well weed out the agents who do not have the 800,000 baht or units of it to spread around their clients on a daily basis
that will be good for the professional agents who are often undercut by those who are happy to work for a bowl of rice to just bribe an IO with 10,000 just to make the renewal stamp with no evidence of a bank book or anything else
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15 minutes ago, Bournville said:Yes... But do they have access to that sort of capital? That's a LOT of cash in the bank for a long time!
Be happy
its not in the bank now for 3 months prior and its accepted for a fee
it will not be in the bank for 3 months after and will be accepted for a fee
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13 minutes ago, NE1 said:
800,000 before and 800,000 after , then not less than 400,000 for the rest of the year , will the bank book suffice , or will a letter from the bank have to be provided every time you do the 90 day report ?
Because I am sure some offices will want to check your bank balance hasn't fallen below 400,000 before they issue you a 90 day report stamp.
Or will it be a case of wait and see / depends which office you use.
and if you do not do a 90 day report, 2000 baht fine
not do it all year 5000 baht
or leave every 90 days and reset the the report clock
not here, no report, not here no show
rinse, repeat
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14 minutes ago, mlkik said:
I do not have a Benz or a Toyota pick up. My car has AC and a heater. Maybe you should look into new cars in Thailand and you will realise they also have round wheels! 55
this topic is not about cars, so its very off topic and subject to mods intervention , however next time i jump in my old S class. i will make note of asking my driver of that which you are discussing, i will also ask the wife and daughter if what you say is true in their new cars too
She has a wildtrak pick up and the daughter has a swift, so you might get one out of the three..
They all have round wheels though, that i do know
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7 minutes ago, Luckysilk said:So basically folks need to keep 800k in the bank for 5 months -2 or 3 months prior and 3 months post the visa and never go below 400k.
I can see an exodus of guys leaving.
or being driven to agents to fix it for a fee, (as yet undeclared)
if IO can be paid to overlook 3 months before then overlooking 3 months after as well won't be a problem
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5 minutes ago, mlkik said:Modern cars come with a heater and air con 555 The odometer can be reset with a press of a button and to be honest my post was tongue in cheek as I have no intention of leaving Thailand!
in your Benz maybe but not in a Toyota pick up
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4 minutes ago, trainman34014 said:
The Agents can't do this fake stuff for Marriage Visa's as they need more back up paperwork that they can't provide.
they can but they charge twice as much as a retirement extension for the very same reasons you have stated and there are many more mouths to feed
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agents will simply earn more money and get to charge for the use of the 800,000 baht loan four times a year now, instead of just the once at renewal time
only thing needed now is for the agents IO to set the tariff for this now 90 days-3 monthly show and tell service
Happy days for many.....
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11 minutes ago, chickenslegs said:
No need to inconvenience the honest applicants. Just carry out a thorough investigation of a few agents/clients/Immi officers, prosecute them and give them a few months in prison.
Repeat the process every few weeks until they get the message.
will the IO be in the same cells? i think not
then think on, do you really think an IO wants his or her agent in custody?
after all they know where all the bodies are buried....
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12 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:
There is nothing in the report that says anything about being tied to the 90 day report. In fact the report says "every 3 months".
90 days or 3 months, you are going to go to immigration anyway to do a 90 day report which you can do 15 days early or 7 days late (including due date)
so despite your nit picking the dates could be coordinated into one trip on a date of your choosing
90 days or 3 months after the visa extension was granted
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14 minutes ago, Lovethailandelite said:
Fail...you will need to update the bank book plus or bank statements. Don't give up your day job to become a forger.
wrong the money is in the bank on the day of the report
no bank statements are needed under this proposal
you would be proving 800,000 in the bank to support your retirement status not by way of proof of income
its one or the other NOT both
can get bank letter for 100 baht if needed when money is in
then transfer back via ATM and do not update passbook
No one needs to forge anything , this can be done at a bank everyday, and it does
Frankly you are talking of something that you are misquoting but know very little about
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14 minutes ago, zydeco said:
But you will still need to go to Chaeng Wattan every 90 days, get bank statements the same day, and wait in line all day long to get approved. And what happens if you are out of the country around the 90 day bank account check? Must you organize your entire life around this?
do not want to show and tell?
Simply leave the country every 89 days and reset the 90 day report clock
rinse, repeat....
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26 minutes ago, Myran said:
No, the other cheaters who use agents to circumvent the requirements. Did you miss what this topic is about?
i did but there was no reference in the OP about cheaters
you opened that can of worms...
Foreigners now need to keep 800k in Thai bank for three months AFTER retirement extension is granted
in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
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American and Australians telling lies on their affidavits are the root cause of Immigration finding the letters unacceptable
The British embassy at least tried to verify the money and demanded proof of the income being claimed by the applicant for the letter
The others just took the word of the applicant, took the money and stamped what the applicant said without seeing any proof
So the liars from USA and Australia are the real cause not the embassies or the UK government
This really started in Chiang Mai last year when they started asking awkward question of income letter supported applicants from USA like;
Ok, we see the letter, now show me the money!