In the jungle

She is probably fed up because that was the train she wanted to board but some guy rugby tackled her to the ground.

22 hours ago, wildpuppet72 said:

Suzuki celerio are you kidding worst car in thailand piece of <deleted> car don't recommend of you can only recommend a <deleted>ty car wtf is that about..

The Celerio is a useful benchmark. 

A high spec Mazda 2 is double the cost of a Celerio. 

The Wildtrak is four times the price of a Celerio.  

A cheap Fortuner is five times the price of a Celerio.

They all do the same job.

4 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Mom can I borrow.....

Actually yes I think you are nearer the mark.

Borrow as in the Thai sense.

1 hour ago, connda said:

I've never heard a pickup referred to as a "City Car."  If you live in rural Thailand?  Good choice.

In metro BKK?  Not so much.  And 11km/lt?  <gag>

You can buy a Suzuki Celerio for about 320K that gets 23km/lt.  THAT - is a "city car."

Well, live and learn.  Erase 100K THB right off the top for your mistake and move on.

Fun fact:  You can buy four new Suzuki Celerios for the list price of a Wildtrak 4x4

32 minutes ago, cheeryble said:

Thanks for all suggestions…

 

I’ve never actually had a car diagnosed on the computer. Does the fault actually have to be happening or can the computer suggest something when it’s running normally.?

The ECU stores fault codes.  So even if the car is running fine when it is at the dealer the historic fault code will show when they scan it.

3 hours ago, HauptmannUK said:

I think this is the one with 8 spark plugs?  The back set are a bit difficult to get at and get overlooked. Change them out if they've not been done recently and only use NGK or Denso.

Get yourself an OBD reader so you can monitor temperature and view stored codes.

Correct.  It is the one with 8 plugs. 

12 hours ago, connda said:

Really.  It went down in price by 32K since I got mine 5 years ago. 

328K is the price for the Celerio with manual transmission.

30 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

I think these small miniature cars talked about are death traps.  Many accidents in Thailand get rammed by a Fortuner, good luck.

When I am not driving a car I am riding a motorbike and I don't consider either activity particularly dangerous.

8 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Actually MG is extremely honest with the info, even conservative, or have been with the ZS, ICE & EV.

 

ZS promo stated 11 kp/L, using E85, and quite accurate, although you'll get 14 kp/L using 91.   Designed for E85, and used to be 29% cheaper, so about the same cost per 100 kms.   Performed a wee bit better on E85, but not enough to give up the kp/L now, since basically the same price, almost.

 

EV quotes 403/NEDC & 320/WLTP rating. Have actually gotten 403, rare, and most don't expect to, as don't drive that slow that long.   But we do consistently get 360 kms in 'ECO' mode, and that's at highway speed/90kph.  Car states more than 320 in 'Normal' and 308, I think in 'Sport'.  Assuming they are as accurate as 'ECO' which is more than enough performance on the highway.

That's interesting because Toyota Thailand's claimed fuel consumption for the Revo is way better than Toyota UK claim for the same truck and both are much better than reality.

8 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Peeked at but never drove a Celerio or Swift, but don't think I'll be suggesting them as cheap transport in the future.

 

Daughter is in the market for a new car, and I suggested Celerio, and of course she likes the styling of the Swift.   Until driving around with her friend, who owns a Swift, and said it's a POS.  Considering she's coming from a 10+ yr old Mazda 2, that's saying a lot.   

 

Being the Celerio is ~150k cheaper than the Swift, she's rightfully thinking, the ride is probably even worse.  She does a bit of highway driving, up to Rangsit frequently, so wants something better, comfort & power.

 

Test driving the MG5 soon, as I think I'll do the same, and let her know my thoughts.  Priced about the same as the Swift, so should be a better choice.

 

Spec wise, no comparison, MG5 superior, larger more powerful engine, and a bunch of airbags ????

Ride quality of the Celerio is actually very good and I was surprised at how effortlessly it dealt with a 500 km trip. 

Both the Swift and the Mazda 2 are undeniably better looking than the Celerio.

MG5?  How many km/litre?  And I don't mean what they say in the brochure.

1 minute ago, Bangkok Barry said:

I assume you meant to say 'your address in Thai'. And nor does anyone else in the entire world outside of Thailand. Which is why the postal authorities need to/are supposed to understand English.

As it it, I wanted to send a letter from the Nana post office in Bangkok to Kalasin, and she wanted to know what country Kalasin is in. So they appear to not know very much.

I presume you told her redneck country ????

1 hour ago, CH1961 said:

You really like other people reading your mail? 

Somebody I have known for over forty years opens the post.  I have no problem with them opening dull correspondence from banks, lawyers and the government.

3 minutes ago, NE1 said:

I just received a letter from UK Pensions , it arrived yesterday , the date on the letter head is the 13th March the post mark on the envelope is the 16th March.

In the first paragraph of the letter it states " I must return the document within 25 days ".

 

Yeh okay.

I had a similar situation with a UK bank.  "If we do not receive a reply within 28 days your account will be suspended."

The letter arrived after the 28 day deadline.  The account was suspended and it could only be reactivated by a visit in person to a branch of the bank in the UK.

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I use normal Thailand Post (or Royal Mail the other way) to actual addresses because of the reliability I've experienced every time.   

In my experience reliability varies.

Thai Post was pretty reliable at my last address.

At my current address in a different province Thai Post is very unreliable.

I use a correspondence address in the UK because of the unreliability of Thailand Post.

Post that arrives at the UK address is scanned and emailed to me.

I have done this.

I imported a 1969 Honda C50 in parts.  It has done 10,000 miles from new.  I knew it could never be registered here.

I did it for purely sentimental reasons as it belonged to my late father.

I have ridden it a few times but it is not really suitable for modern road conditions.  Too slow, 6v electrics and poor suspension by modern standards.

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

I drive all over TH, rarely if ever fly.   I actually enjoy driving, and wouldn't never put my dog on a plane.  To much hassle to fly now of days, and you can't take anything with you, and I'll need a car when I get there anyway.

 

Besides being cost effective for 2 adults & dog.  Stress out my dog in a cage, in TH heat...no love there.  

 

Prefer the ZS over the EP, for the same reason, shorter length.  I do agree, the EV market is limited  MG needs to come out  with a <600k MG3 EV, or one of them with stripped down EV truck, <800k.   All vehicles, ICEs & EVs are just silly priced.    Cars costing as much as houses, that's nuts.

 

Kudos to Suzuki for offering up a 416k AT for around town.

 

Wt. not really a factor and I actually prefer heavier.  As long not too much.

 

ZS ICE vs EV wt.  1290 vs 1570 kg

 

I hit a little import with a New Yorker years back, dented up the front of my car, sent the little one spinning into a wall, and they all got banged up inside.  ???? No airbags or seat belts.

We all have different tastes and requirements and I am sure your MG EP suits yours.

After reading your final paragraph I am going to get a nervous twitch every time I see an MG EP behind me ????

Maybe I could accept 1200 kg for an EV as weight distribution and c of g are much better.

Another reason why I would not buy an EV right now is weight.

I have a firm preference for cars that are light.  Most of the cars I have owned have been under 1000 kg.

To take one EV example, and honest I am not picking on you Khun LA, the MG EP weighs 1574 kg.  That is 789 kg heavier than my daily driver.

As energy density improves weight will come down.

11 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

in various ways, your comparison is incorrect.

 

transport time and cost from your house to the airport, as well cost from the airport to your destination (hotel / hua hin, etc.) must be included. 

 

show me a flight for 700 baht including one piece of luggage, maybe for next week. where do you book your cheap flights ...?

 

if I fly to Bangkok, it takes around 5 hours from my house to the airport and to the hotel in downtown Bangkok. if I go to Hua Hin, it takes about 7-8 hours ... and the cost will be at least 2'500 baht per person (taxi, ticket, bus). that is only for one person, if you travel with your wife or family than it will be much more costly .... if using the car, the cost for 1-5 person is more or less the same ...

 

we all know, an ev car is not for everyone, and that is a good thing!

 

 

You will not get a flight for 700 Baht if you want to fly next week. 

700 Baht was the price I got for 10 May when I checked, I think, three days ago.  7kg luggage is what you get for that price.  Adding 20 extra kg increases the price by about 500 Baht.

Normally I use Air Asia but Nok flies the same route.  The airport is 25 minutes from my house.  Total journey time door to door is about three hours.

I have never said an EV is not for me.  Rather there is nothing on the Thai market right now that I would buy.  No doubt that will change.

7 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Mango & papaya comparison  ...

... an entry level 3cyl MT ICE (338k) vs 800k EV, ex: MG EP

... SERIOUSLY, that's just ridiculous.

Advantage Celerio ... going further topped up, that's about it.

 

Celerio:

Maximum output (PS/rpm) ... 68/ 6,000

Maximum torque (Nm/rpm) ... 90/ 3,500

 

MG EP:

Maximum power (horsepower (kW))163 (120)

Maximum torque (Newton-meter)260

 

Which would you rather own, and drive for 3 -4 hrs straight ?

... nuff said

 

i recommend the Celerio, quite often, if that's what your budget dictates.  For others, buy something you actually want.

The Celerio is not what my budget dictates.  It is what meets my day to day requirements and it is not my only car.

For longer journeys, most commonly Bangkok, I prefer to fly.

My question for you is for a 500 km trip which would you prefer, an MG EP or an Airbus A320 200?

The Airbus takes typically 47 minutes from take off to landing and per flight it can cost as little as 700 Baht.

One of the reasons why I did not buy an EV this time around is because I do not want something as big as the MG EP.  Choice in the EV market here remains pretty limited.  Doubtless that will change.

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

How much petrol could you have purchased by getting a Suzuki ICE car for 318000bht, instead of your EV costing 900,000bht.

I'm thinking that 500,000bht difference would have paid for a lifetimes worth of petrol.

How much do you spend on coffee and snacks while waiting for your EV to charge?

You beat me to it.  In fact I did that calculation based on my own usage (10,000 km a year) and assuming an EV cost of 800K.  I ignored the Neta because it is a Noddy car.

With a purchase price of 318K for the ICE, which is what I spent, it would take me 25 years to get to 800K for cost of ICE car plus cost of fuel.  

Any argument that maintenance costs are higher for an ICE are offset by the fact that I have 500K in the bank earning interest whereas EV man does not.

I am not anti EV.  I just don't think now is the right time to buy.  EVs are so much simpler than ICE that they are bound to be a lot cheaper than ICE in time.  Perhaps in five years I will be tempted.