Eloquent pilgrim

Well you would spout such nonsense wouldn't you, because you are an antisemite Hamas apologist, as I have witnessed in many of your comments .

I should have known that juxtaposing a futile historic agreement, with a futile modern agreement, would go right over your head.

I doubt if it is being ignored, but very possibly manipulated. There is a school of thought that the treaty was never robust enough to begin with, which is why Trump withdrew. Only one reason for being evasive, they want nuclear weapons.

Good try, but I don't think it is possible to make someone that felt the need to ask the question understand; you can explain it to them but you cannot understand it for them.

America, which you must have now researched; considering you didn’t even know there was such a treaty only a few hours ago. Well done.

There is; it is called the JCPOA and is between Iran, China, Russia, France, Germany, the United Kingdom and the European Union.

Yes to you first question. Open one of my remaining three bottles of 1982 Château Margaux to your second question …….. next

Not sure if you are just being a contrarian, or if you have simply not followed events in the middle east for the last 30 years or more; so just a little edification. Iran have been threatening to wipe Israel from the face of the earth for many years. These threats were made repeatedly by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad between 2005 and 2013 when he was President of Iran, and have just been repeated by General Ebrahim Jabbari, who has said "Operation True Promise 3 will be carried out. (True promises 1 & 2 were April 2024 & October 2024 respectively) In April 2024 Iran launched, in an unprovoked attack, 170 drones, over 30 cruise missiles, and more than 120 ballistic missiles, indiscriminately at Israeli territory; then on 1st October 2024 Iran launched 200 ballistic missiles at Israeli territory, again indiscriminately, not targeting military installations. I wonder if you can guess what might happen to Israel if Iran acquired nuclear weapons, which you seem to be advocating; I guess it's because you are an antisemite and a Hamas apologist, so the obvious eventuality would probably not bother you one jot. There has been no verification that Israel has nuclear weapons, although I think it more likely than not.

My question was to another poster in response to their comment, and was specifically asking if they thought it was acceptable for Iran to have nuclear weapons; it was not about any other, or certain countries.

Crikey, looks like we’ve got Neville Chamberlin on the forum now; whatever next ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Would you find it acceptable to see Iran with Nuclear weapons ?

Last Songkran, the police stopped a total of 279,873 vehicles for examination, and action was taken against 39,611 traffic offenders — including a staggering 11,013 for driving without a licence. I wonder how many of those caught without a license were allowed to continue driving after a “fine” …. and are still driving unlicensed today

UNRWA is indirectly responsible for the shooting of the Gaza “Paramedics” When UNRWA morphed from an aid agency into a wing of the terrorist organisation, Hamas, they changed the fundamental rules of conflict; it is when Hamas started using ambulances to relocate terrorist fighters and munitions around Gaza, directly under the eyes of UNRWA. Some of UNRWA’s “aid workers” took part in the most barbaric atrocity in modern history on 7 October, and then subsequently held wounded and dying hostages on behalf of Hamas, in their facilities in Gaza. This changed everything, because once the IDF knew that ambulances were being used for military purposes, in a direct contravention of the Geneva convention, in one fell swoop, they all became legitimate targets; we are yet to know if the "medics" killed in this incident were genuine medics or terrorists, but Hamas themselves legitimised their targeting, nobody else. This has caused a problem for all the left wing seat-sniffers that have been continually criticising Israel with UN quotes, and citing UN resolutions (apart from 181, of course) So now the UN that they have been championing, are shown to have a terrorist organisation controlling its main aid agency; an agency that employs 13,000 Palestinians in Gaza. The once proud reputation of the UN lies tainted, tattered, and completely discredited.

Just as it is impossible to tell when a swimming fish is drinking water, so it is impossible to tell when a Palestinian medic or aid worker is actually a terrorist. You'll always reap just what you sow

This is deflection of Olympic standard; how can it possibly be an irrelevance ? Hamas terrorists working for, and controlling, the main aid agency in Gaza, UNRWA, is the reason that the IDF cannot trust any agency in Gaza not to be terrorists. If the UN’s main aid agency in Gaza has Hamas terrorists controlling it, how can any other agency be trusted not to be terrorists. Nothing could possibly be more relevant to the topic than UNRWA’s abuse of its status as an aid agency, and you want to dismiss it as an irrelevance. Your dismissive attitude towards terrorism, and relentless criticism of those trying to fight it is shameful.

Another disgraceful attempt at justifying terrorism; it was not an armed conflict, it was a terrorist attack on innocent civilians … absolutely shameful

Says the man who continually refuses to address the point I made about UNRWA; when this UN affiliated aid agency employs Hamas terrorists in disguise who took part in the atrocities of 7 October 2023, and then subsequently held wounded and dying hostages captive in their facilities in Gaza, how are the IDF supposed to differentiate between terrorists and civilians. If civilians, and more disgustingly, aid workers, are actually terrorists, what do you expect the IDF to do in this war.

Well perhaps the international community, instead of just criticising Israel, could advise them on how they can differentiate between Hamas terrorists and civilians, when the terrorists continually disguise themselves as civilians, medics, health officials and as aid workers for the UN affiliated aid agency UNRWA. If thousands of Hamas terrorists keep disguising themselves like this, innocent civilians will be mistakenly killed, but none of the critics either internationally, or on this forum, can offer any suggestion as to how the IDF can tell the difference in order to minimise civilian casualties. Hamas has, and continues, to deliberately make everyone in Gaza a sacrificial target to feed their propaganda machine, and the gullible keep lapping it up.

Spoken like the true Hamas apologist that you are

Pat Condell is back on Youtube having been banned for a few years for upsetting all the lefty seat-sniffers with his inimitable sense of reality … “Laughing At The Lady Men “ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0D3FR9J4vk Cosmic

Oh look, you forgot to mention UNRWA once again, and their participation in the most barbaric atrocity in modern history; and their holding captive wounded and dying hostages in their facilities for Hamas. No Palestinian agency in Gaza can be trusted in any way, shape or form, they are all affiliated to Hamas.

Oh look, another raging antisemite on here

All Palestinians in Gaza are affiliated to Hamas. Hamas are the legitimate government of these Palestinians; you don’t like that because it removes the validity of the overused and disingenuous slogan “innocent Palestinians” every time a terrorist disguised as a civilian or a medic is killed. However, you have never offered an explanation as to how the IDF are supposed to recognise in a war, the difference between Hamas terrorists, and alleged innocent civilians when they continually disguise themselves as civilians, medics, teachers etc. How about the terrorists disguised as UNRWA workers, I notice you have not said anything about those “innocent Palestinians”

Extra edifying; many thanks for your intellectual input.

Very clearly the IDF lied about the circumstances of the slaughter of these Terrorists …. fixed it for you; you’re welcome