Eloquent pilgrim

Nobody should be under any illusions as to why Reform are gaining popularity; it is all about immigration, and not anything else, and squeals from the far left of “racists or bigots” aimed at either the party, or its supporters won’t stop the surge. That left wing ploy is a busted flush nowadays. It is also naive not to realise that it is mainly about muslim immigration, because immigrants that are adherents to Islam, do not integrate into UK society, and instead create insular communities within society, and this is what a lot of UK citizens both fear and object to. Their fears are not unreasonable, it is muslims in the UK that practice honour killings, female genital mutilation, paedophilia, underage marriage and the subjugation of women. And the alarming number of Islamic terror attacks the UK has suffered adds further fear of this religious culture of hate. The recent exposure of 50 or more muslim rape gangs, and 85 or more Sharia councils has alarmed millions in the UK, and with neither the Conservative party, or Labour, willing, or able, to do anything about it, people are turning to Reform in droves. Despite 4 million votes at the last election, it is easy for some to dismiss Reform, but things can change quickly once people awaken to the intrinsic danger facing them. Just a couple of years ago it would have been laughable to suggest that the AfD in Germany, and the National Rally in France, could achieve such popularity, and even be on the brink of coming to power. Europe is finally awaking to the danger, Italy has already, and being followed by Belgium, France, Austria, Germany and Portugal. The UK unfortunately will have to wait until we can oust this appalling Socialist Labour government, who I notice have just suspended MP Andrew Gwynne for posting offensive and abusive messages; Oliver Ryan will be next for the same reason very soon.

So you can’t tell us what benefit the importation of thousands of young muslim men is to the UK. Strange that, because you usually defend any criticism of anything to do with Islam or muslims, with the sort of fanaticism not often found west of Damascus.

More of your default deflection and obfuscation; this topic is about how Reform have gained in popularity, and that is entirely due to their stance on immigration, nothing else; millions of people in the UK are appalled by the muslim rape gangs, the cover up by Labour councils, incidents like the Batley Grammar school teacher, and the forming of 85 or more Sharia councils. So Islamic / Muslim immigration is the main concern in the UK, and if you lived in the UK or knew anything about it, you would understand that. When you call supports of Reform racists and bigots for objecting to this immigration, I think it is quite reasonable to ask you what benefit you think it offers the UK, but you cannot answer, can you ?

So, you cannot tell me what benefits there are to the UK, to import thousands of young male Islamists, who will not integrate into UK society; it comes as no surprise that you have completely ignored that question, and will do so again …. and again, and again. You will however, no doubt think it is somehow bigoted or Islamophobic to ask such a simple and very reasonable question.

Tibetan goat milk, or when unavailable, coffee mate; although I believe that's not a very healthy alternative

The classic far left slur of “racists and bigots” in a sweeping generalisation, designed, as usual, to negate any value of those with opposing views to uncontrolled immigration. Reform received 4 million votes at the last election, 14% of the votes cast, but here you are as a non UK resident, dismissing them as racists and bigots. I suppose that is easier for you than offering an intellectual argument as to what benefit it is to the UK, and Europe, to import thousand and thousands of mostly young men who are adherents to Islam, a religion and culture that is totally incompatible with western civilisation, and refuses to integrate. What are the benefits do you think ? is it the 50, and counting, muslim rape gangs, or maybe the 85, and counting Sharia councils, because I, and many others, are unable to see any benefits at all.

Good to know that you have access to google search ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Oh look, a discombobulated little leftie, trying to sound relevant as he blurts out a few insults; hilarious, and irrelevant in equal measure.

Classic apologist nonsense.

Indeed so; it is known as conquering by the womb, rather than by military force; it will however, lead to great civil unrest in the UK before very long.

Madder than mad Mick McMad, winner of the 2023 maddest man in the world award.

Absolutely, right on the money; it has already happened in Italy, and is happening now in France, Sweden, and even Germany. Europeans did not vote for uncontrolled immigration and the prioritisation of tiny minorities over the majority; despite his numerous faults, Trump has read the room correctly over this woke nonsense.

You said it, look it up yourself, they are your words; so why is it okay to use Islamophobic, but if you use antisemitic it is a slur, please explain. Any context is irrelevant, the point is that you are trying to shut down the use of the word antisemitic, but are happy to use Islamophobic; therefor you are a hypocrite

You said this to me on 6 Feb at 09.21 “No evidence just pure Islamophobic hate mongering” You don’t think this is a slur, but using the word antisemite is a slur; as I have had to remind you on many occasions, the hypocrisy of your double standards is breathtaking.

Nope, you said “Having lived and worked in the region for many years I’d be surprised if any locals voiced their opinions in the matter to you” I think this was a lie, and was said just to try and give your comments more weight; it is not for me to disprove, it is for you to prove. When I posted about my personal experiences you called me a liar and asked me for evidence, now you want to completely reverse that procedure … more hypocrisy and double standards from you.

There are several posters on here that are openly antisemitic, which they are free to be if they so choose; however, you now try to shut down the use of the word by calling it a slur. You, however, recently accused me of spreading Islamophobic hatred, and you didn’t seem to think using Islamophobic was a slur, and have been happy to throw it around like confetti, but to use antisemitic is now a slur. Once again you demonstrate your double standards in true left wing fashion; with the burgeoning hypocrisy of each comment you make, you further diminish any credibility that you started out with.

I think it’s because it is the most fashionable platform for moralising and virtue signalling, and certainly the one that has had the greatest publicity and management; that is certainly the case in the UK, where it gives Tiffany, Sebastian and Aphrodite an opportunity to wear the latest organically made keffiyeh, and chant student union slogans before enjoying a bottle or two of Prosecco at Pinkies. They won’t of heard of the persecution of the Ahmadis, and the Uyghurs and Yazadis are so, so yesterday, don’t ya know. At some of the protests in London, stalls had been set up where protesters could buy a Keffiyeh and different banners; one young lad was interviewed and asked what the banner he was holding up meant and he said “I don’t know, I just bought it from that stall over there” ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

There you go again with your insidious double standards; willing to pursue calling me a liar over several comments, but when called out for lying yourself, you immediately bleat “back on topic” this is something you do every time you don’t like the way an exchange is going.

They flushed that right down the gurgler on 7 October 2023; and only a raging antisemite would not understand that.

You are saying that a two state solution is the answer, but that Israel are not interested, so obviously blaming Israel with your statement; but when asked if Hamas are interested in a two state solution, you have no answer. Might it be that you don’t want to answer because you know that the eradication of all jews, not just in Israel, but throughout the world, is in the founding charter of Hamas, so a two state solution is the last thing in the world they would want.

You’ve already said that and that Israel are not interested in it. I asked you if Hamas are interested in it ?

And Hamas are ?

You sound a bit upset

Excellent piece of deflection and avoidance; you throw a stick at Trump, but not one single word about the Hamas affiliated agency, UNRWA, hiding an Israeli hostage on behalf of Hamas; not just hiding her, but denying her medical aid when she had been shot in the leg, and also shot in the hand loosing 2 fingers … aid agency, my aunt fanny’s fat arse. Hamas agency. And not a word either about some of their operatives taking part in the 7 October atrocities, not one word, just a swipe at Trump. And you quote the UN as if they have some legitimacy. I hope you are not another antisemite, because we have far too many on this forum already.

Yes, Israel has been trying (unsuccessfully) to prevent rockets and other munitions being shipped to Hamas from Iran; do you blame them for that ? Are you referring to that same trustworthy UN that the US has just suspended funding for ? that same UN whose agency UNRWA had been keeping one of the kidnapped Israeli hostages in one of their facilities in Gaza, and some of whose workers (sic) took part in the October 7 slaughters …. that totally impartial UN ?