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Impeachment hearings so far have been a dud. From the left-leaning Huffington Post no less.
"Days of televised impeachment hearings have left Americans largely dug into their original opinions, a new HuffPost/YouGov poll finds, dashing Democrats’ hopes that the testimony might finally splinter the president’s base of support"
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/impeachmen-hearing-poll-sondland_n_5dd86d52e4b00149f71cdf37
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Pelosi was right when she said impeachment should be bipartisan. Unfortunately she changed her mind and now we are where we are. The whole process at this point is a farce. Doubtful Trump will legitimize it by participating.
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On 11/19/2019 at 7:39 PM, earlinclaifornia said:Oh yes he WILL be impeached but likely not have been convicted. However, I truely believe that the cost result will be the Senate. Meet me back here after election to see who gets to gloat.
He will NOT be impeached. Schiff is backpedaling and a key Dem is bailing and asking others to follow.
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9 minutes ago, jany123 said:
That’s not really what the link says... or even implies.
rather, it’s clear that her changing position reflects an awareness that the republicans in the senate will betray their oaths to office, and not vote to impeach, ergo a trial is moot.
all the trial is likely to do is officially note who voted which way, for posterities sake... her suggestion is to simply replace a partisan vote with a censure motion, which will establish the same thing.
that said, with rudi’s Ukrainian mates seemingly willing to provide audio tapes of conversation, not to mention mcgahn having to testify, this could be the tipping point, a la Nixon and his recorded gaffs.
Personally, I pray that the trumps health scare, of the last week or so, is something minor which does not prove fatal. I would hate to see the trump die, thereby escaping consequence for his high crimes and misdemeanors.
There will be no impeachment, no trial in the Senate.
Also, from the article, "Democrats still don't have the strong case they're seeking to justify removing President Donald Trump from office"
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1 hour ago, heybruce said:
Trump asking/blackmailing a foreign leader for election assistance is not significant, but Democrats employing a UK investigator for opposition research is. Got it.
Whatever Trump did is not significant enough to impeach, according to some key Dems. ICYMI, Schiff is backpedaling, and then there's this, ICYMI:
Michigan Democratic Rep. Brenda Lawrence, a prominent supporter of Kamala Harris who has previously supported the impeachment inquiry into President Trump, abruptly announced Sunday that she no longer saw any "value" in the process and called for her fellow Democrats to throw their support behind a symbolic censure resolution.
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Like I have posted, there will be no impeachment. The next step is censure.
Michigan Democratic Rep. Brenda Lawrence, a prominent supporter of Kamala Harris who has previously supported the impeachment inquiry into President Trump, abruptly announced Sunday that she no longer saw any "value" in the process and called for her fellow Democrats to throw their support behind a symbolic censure resolution.
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Bloomberg has one thing in common with all the other Democratic candidates: Doesn't stand a chance of beating Trump.
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21 minutes ago, Tug said:Well the ruling just came down on trumps minions stonewalling they must testify so my guess this is going to go on a bit longer heck maybe we will hear from the big mouth himself lol
Yet another nothing burger. The will simply show up and claim executive privilege.
No impeachment, censure only.
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9 hours ago, Skallywag said:This type of deflection is what the GOP is best at. Basically saying,
"The articles of Impeachment should be dropped, because of what we think the Bidens did 5 years ago." Perfect GOP logic in their minds
As of now, there are no articles of impeachment and it's looking more and more like there never will be. Schiff is starting to chicken out. See post #41.
In addition to Schiff, other Dems are starting to chicken out as well. Impeachment will not happen.
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10 hours ago, davidupatterson said:
Great. Thanks, everyone!
I haven't dug into the details yet (like cost) but even if it's more expensive than getting a new passport in the US, this certainly works out to be more financially advantageous than going back to the US.
Just one last question: Will my new passport say that it was issued in Thailand?
The cost is the same.
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The next step in the impeachment probe appears to be Schiff starting to chicken out.
During a Sunday morning interview with CNN's Jake Tapper, Schiff said he would have to "discuss this with my constituents and my colleagues" before deciding whether or not the House should move forward with articles of impeachment.
Translation: "We're afraid of a Senate trial. We're going to go with House censure only."
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43 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:I'm watching MSNBC as I write this, the catch phrase for now is "Quite Likely" when discussing charges and investigations against Trump personnel. Remember during the Mueller era it was "The walls are closing in"
MSNBC "quite likely" translates to "ain't gonna happen."
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Looking more doubtful that it will get to the Senate. Schiff was on the verge of tears as he closed out the session, knowing he had failed. Watch him as he loses it, starts yelling and adjourns before he starts crying. Pathetic.
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There is now talk the House will go for censure instead of articles of impeachment. The view is they won't open a Pandora's box by allowing the Senate Republicans to call both Clintons, both Bidens, the Whistleblower, and Schiff.
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Follow the customs of your home country which presumably does not include sin sod or the other Thai traditions. If she balks, tell her to marry a Thai man.
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In addition to pants, I wear the wife-beater shirt without the hole in it.
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2 hours ago, bristolboy said:
So far, Trump supporters have been behind Trump's refusal to allow former and current high ranking officials of his administration to testify because of the claim of Democratic bias. So we'll see if the Senate subpoenas those same people and if the Trump administration complies.
The post doesn't mention any of those people. It mentions Adam Schiff, Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, and the so-called Whistleblower as those Trump expects to testify.
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2 hours ago, Saint Nick said:
Isn't that a photo from an Apple- factory, that Trumpp opened today?
Except...it was operating since 2013?
Pray remind me: what is Biden to testify exactly?
...oh nevermind!
You and yours have been asked that question ad infinitum and your answers were somewhere between >crickets & tumbleweed< to a bunch of BS, that has nothing to do, with the case at hand!
Oh well...Happy Hour is calling!
Ask Webfact about the picture. It's his post.
The Senate will determine who will testify and why. I doubt if they will be contacting you for approval.
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19 hours ago, cyril sneer said:thanks for this info in bold
AA is not an option, i'll look into other medications which may help
Why not?
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9 minutes ago, Kelsall said:
ICYMI
“We would expect to finally hear from witnesses who actually witnessed, and possibly participated in corruption - like Adam Schiff, Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, and the so-called Whistleblower, to name a few,” Gidley said, referring to House of Representatives Intelligence Committee Chairman Schiff, who is leading an impeachment inquiry into Trump."
FINALLY, we will get a SOMETHING burger out of all this!
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14 minutes ago, Sujo said:
Its obvious you have a feeling but its not based on logic or reality.
ICYMI
“We would expect to finally hear from witnesses who actually witnessed, and possibly participated in corruption - like Adam Schiff, Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, and the so-called Whistleblower, to name a few,” Gidley said, referring to House of Representatives Intelligence Committee Chairman Schiff, who is leading an impeachment inquiry into Trump."
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If Trump wants the Bidens, Schiff, and the Whistleblower to testify, it will happen. Trump is POTUS AND head of the Republican party.
From the Dems point of view, Pelosi and Schiff should have never chosen to go down this path.
Too bad for them.
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3 hours ago, Skallywag said:
I still do not know why GOP keeps deflecting from the articles of impeachment. Schiff is not a witness, the whistleblower is moot, as are the Bidens. This is about POTUS withholding appropriated military aide from the Ukraine. Only those who participated in this action since May 2019 will be allowed to testify. period
FYI, there are no articles of impeachment. There may never be.
Should there be articles of impeachment, though, anything in the Republican held Senate will be by their rules, not yours. I have a feeling they may not agree with your assessment of who will be allowed to testify, or who the interrogators will be. Trump himself might be allowed to question witnesses.
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4 hours ago, Silurian said:
So there it is..."full trial that ends in an acquittal".
That will be the final outcome in the Senate. It doesn't matter how many witnesses or how much evidence continues to pile up against Donald, he will be acquitted in the Republican controlled Senate. Senator Lindsey Graham has stated outright that he isn't watching or even paying any attention to the House impeachment investigation.
There is absolutely no evidence that will convince the Senate Republicans to oust Donald. They have already made up their minds even before the Senate trial. Mitch knows this and will just play along. Party over country is the Republican mantra. It has been their mantra for years now and continues to drive their actions.
The writing is on the wall. Impeachment by the House, acquitted in the Senate and setup for re-election as the victim. The stage has been set. The actors are in place. The outcome been foretold.
The thinking is it will be an acquittal what the Dems have presented so far is all they have. And...it IS all they have...basically nothing.
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Senior Democrat says next step underway in Trump impeachment probe
in World News
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All the issues, both real and imagined, can be taken up in the Senate trial, should it get there, which I doubt.