Chomper Higgot

“People are asking for verifiable proof / evidence etc.. which is impossible when they can turn around and simply say the IDF was lying.” Well apart from the video footage recovered from the phone of a paramedic gunned down and dumped in a shallow grave by the IDF and the actual statements made by the IDF which are contradicted by that video evidence. The statement ‘The IDF lied’ is a statement of fact.

I’m pleased to report they do. I’ve been checked twice at 5am driving out of Pattaya to go cycling. Stone cold sober both times but nevertheless checked.

I doubt very much they care.

Clearly we do not. The known and verified facts I listed are part of the truth which includes the indisputable fact that the IDF lied. Lying wrt to the killing of paramedics is not a ‘small irrelevant point’, especially when it is the killers doing the lying. You really should have stuck with your fist post in this thread, hatred of the victims is all you have.

The opportunity to determine truth of what actually happened obviously bothers you as much as it does those who attempted to cover up their actions with lies.

The IDF lied about this incident and have made statements for which they have provided zero evidence. The Red Crescent has called for an international inquiry. This is entirely reasonable.

It’s important to note the IDF have issued explanations that are demonstrably false and then changed those explanations when solid evidence shows up. The IDF have also made a number of other statements regarding this incident for which they have provided zero evidence. I’ve listed, known verifiable facts, you’ve responded to that post with unverified assertions. There is obviously good cause for an independent investigation and very clearly the IDF are not a credible source of information in these killings.

Here’s what we know as facts. 1. The IDF gunned down paramedics wearing high vis paramedic uniforms in/at Ambulances that had their lights on. 2. The bodies of the IDF’s victims were dumped in a shallow grave. 3. The IDF issued statements on the killing that are demonstrably lies. 4. The proof that the IDF are lying is video footage recovered from the phone of an IDF victim exhumed from the shallow grave. 5. In the face of the video evidence the IDF changed their story. 6. The IDF have made statements regarding 6 members of Hamas being in the Ambulances, the IDF have produced zero evidence to support that claim. Those are facts. I suggest you keep it simple, stick to your first defense of this atrocity, it relies on nothing but your own hatred of the IDF’s victims:

Is it too much to ask that the IDF should not gun down paramedics and then lie about it?

Your evidence is a statement from Lt Col Nadav Shoshani, who has already been demonstrated to have lied through his teeth regarding the curious inability of IDF forces to know if Ambulances have their lights on. Moreover this same Lt Col Nadav Shoshani claimed: Zero evidence to back the IDF claims has been produced. Zero!

You have provided no evidence to substantiate that claim.

Please provide a link to this otherwise unattributed statement.

Provide it here and evidence that the claim is correct.

Your whole argument, such as it is, thrives on assumptions.

Now you offer up excuses for gunning down paramedics. Do you have evidence that the Paramedics the IDF gunned down and dumped in a shallow grave were holding hostages?

Israel initially also stated: “Lt Col Nadav Shoshani said troops had opened fire on vehicles that had no prior clearance from Israeli authorities and had their lights off, a statement contradicted by video recovered from the mobile phone of one of those killed.” Those among of us who have ever seen an ambulances with its lights on at night will have difficulty reconciling the initial statements made by Lt Col Nadav Shoshani Moreover we might ask if the truth of the lies he was presenting would have ever have been revealed had the mobile phone not been recovered from a paramedic shot and killed by the IDF then dumped in a shallow grave. The IDF who made ‘mistaken’ accounts (blatant lies) that the ambulance were not showing their lights have produced zero evidence to substantiate their claim that six of those killed had links to Hamas. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/07/gaza-paramedics-shot-in-upper-body-with-intent-to-kill-red-crescent-says

The U.S. attacks the British and world economies with tariffs and undermines the defense treaties the UK is a party to. PM Starmer points out the UK needs to adjust to the new world order these attacks are causing. You, a self professed British patriot, attack the British PM.

The 10 individuals are accused, I’m surprised you are so soon assuming their guilt. Refer the link provided: ”Michael Mansfield KC is one of a group of lawyers who will on Monday hand in a 240-page dossier to Scotland Yard’s war crimes unit alleging targeted killing of civilians and aid workers, including by sniper fire, and indiscriminate attacks on civilian areas, including hospitals.” These are accusations of war crimes. I trust you support full investigation of such serious allegations. https://www.theguardian.com/law/2025/apr/07/ten-britons-accused-of-committing-war-crimes-while-fighting-for-israel-in-gaza

The allegations of Israel committing war crimes have been made and are now with the ICC, you assume they are ‘false’. Your assertion of hypocrisy is founded on that assumption.

There are more than a few threads discussing the war crimes committed and being committed by Hamas. You are engaging in an attempt to deflect one of the few threads discussing allegations of war crimes committed by Israel. I’ll ask again: Did he [Raji Sourani, the director of the PCHR] say anything about war crimes being a justification for retaliatory war crimes? It’s not a difficult question, give it a go.

I believe that support is the precise purpose of the tariffs. As this report demonstrates they hit US Corporations/Billionaires. They too want the tariffs removed, when they need to make a deal with Trump and we’ve all seen how deals with Trump are conducted.

Not that Republicans would ever use nationwide injunctions to block a Presidents executive orders: https://missouriindependent.com/2022/11/14/six-gop-led-states-win-national-injunction-against-biden-student-debt-relief-plan/

Did he say anything about war crimes being a justification for retaliatory war crimes?

Inflation down on day 1? End the war in Ukraine on day 1? Dictator on day 1! 1oo3

Meanwhile war crime allegations against 10 British citizens who served with the Israeli military in Gaza are being handed over to the MET: https://www.theguardian.com/law/2025/apr/07/ten-britons-accused-of-committing-war-crimes-while-fighting-for-israel-in-gaza